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2003 Big Brother Awards

MacRonin writes "Privacy International today announced the winners of the 2003 Big Brother Awards. One of the judges, estimable Dr Ian Brown of the Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR), writes: "It was alternatively amusing and depressing to be one of the judges for these awards. RIP and data retention played a large part in our deliberations..." ... Read more at The Register (UK) - 2003 Big Brother Awards: The Winners. and Political News from Wired News - Blair Tagged as Privacy Threat."

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  1. Security vs. Freedom by Webmoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Security and Freedom are mutually exclusive. When the Guvmint proclaims "we need to do this in the name of security," you can bet your freedoms will be trampled in the process.

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    1. Re:Security vs. Freedom by aero6dof · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would argue that Security and Freedom are not exclusive at all. Furthermore, in the long run, freedom is the best guarantee of security.

  2. Re:It's a shame.... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh come on, the credit-reporting industry has got to be a major contender here. They have a huge impact on the financial lives of American consumers, but their data is notoriously unreliable (at added cost to consumers) and its use is clouded in obfuscation (i.e. credit score calculation). Add to that the increasingly broad use of that information (like insurance rates), and you've got an odds-on perennial favorite...

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  3. Re:Across-the-Pond Comparison by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Maybe you run more wire taps in the US, but in the UK they just keep the data, no wire taps required.

    Actually, and not that I agree with even this, the data to be retained was simply the logs. ie where you are visiting, who you are mailing, who you were phoning and for how long. They would not have been required (or even allowed) to keep the actual data of any transmission (ie what was said).

    Since there are so many ways to avoid being caught in ISPs logs (running your own mail server, using a foreign proxy, ssh, etc, etc) I think it would maybe have been a good idea to let them set these laws before they get a clue. All they will get from the ISPs log of my mail will be all the spam I don't have to bother picking up by running my own mail server.

  4. Re:Across-the-Pond Comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The black market will always operate outside of the government, no tax, no law etc... It's the reqular people that get caught by the invasion of privacy.

  5. traffic laws enforced by cameras by pmineiro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Worst Public Servant: London Mayor Ken Livingstone, whose traffic-reduction plan relies on a network of 700 surveillance cameras posted around the capital that photograph car license plates to enforce a new fee for driving during rush hour.

    I'm going to argue in favor of this strategy of enforcing traffic laws (speeding, stop signs, etc.) by video.

    First, I think it's a fairer approach. As we all know, being pulled over for traffic offenses is biased. Minorities and those driving tricked-out racer cars are more likely to get pulled over. The videocamera is totally unbiased. Of course, we must be careful to guard against bias in determining where these video units are deployed.

    In addition, I can't count the number of times attractive female (just) friends of mine have cried/clevaged their way out of various traffic tickets. Doing that in front of the camera might make them popular on the internet, but won't get them out of the ticket.

    It's also very easy to beat a traffic ticket by pleading not-guilty, moving the court date several times, and counting on the cop not to show, thus winning the case for lack of evidence. This latter strategy both shifts court costs to the public (no court fees collected when not guilty) and favors those who have enough time or a flexible enough job to handle the requisite scheduling. This strategy would be stopped dead by the permanent and available nature of video as evidence.

    Cops *have* died during traffic stops, either by being shot (purposefully) or by being run over (accidentally). So, traffic stops are dangerous from the police perspective, and probably creates some citizen-police tensions as some police are on guard during them. Video minimizes unnecessary, dangerous, and potentially explosive contact.

    Finally, I feel personally that this will lead to *less* invasive search, not more, because I don't have to worry about a cop searching my car for drugs, guns, or whatever he thinks I might have now that he had a valid reason to pull me over.

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    1. Re:traffic laws enforced by cameras by Carbonite · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As we all know, being pulled over for traffic offenses is biased. Minorities and those driving tricked-out racer cars are more likely to get pulled over.

      I agree that drivers of "tricked-out racer cars" will get pulled over more often than someone driving a beige Volvo, for example. This doesn't necessarily mean that the type of car increase the chance of being stopped. Driver of these "race cars" tend to race them. They tend to drive above the speed limit, sometimes, way above. This makes them likely targets for traffic stops.

      The issue of minorities being targeted leads into the issue of racial profiling. It's still very unclear to what extent racial profiling is practiced or even if it exists at all (during traffic stops). Studies have produced results to show both prove and disprove its existence. I believe that the vast majority of police practice behavior profiling, not racial profiling. If minorities are being pulled over in disproportionate numbers, could it be possible their behavior is the cause? I honestly don't know but it does seem to be very politically incorrect to suggest such a theory. Perhaps an automated system could prove useful data for this debate.

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    2. Re:traffic laws enforced by cameras by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SO your sitting at a stop light and notice the trck approaching you from the rear is not slowing down. As a intelligent being, you move into the intersection and get out of the way.

      Now the automated system is sending you a ticket. One that will be near impossible to get out of, because, you know, computers don't make mistakes.

      A human being can make a judge ment and say, perhaps they shouldn't be ticketed.

      How many times will the system ticket you if you are speeding? If I am speeding, I get a ticket and then slow down. An automated system would ticket me over and over and over.

      So now an automated system is trusted more then you are.
      This is already a problem in stores. You are leaving a store, then suddenlt some infernal machine is beeping and flashing. So now you are in a position of proving your innocences to the shop keeper*. as a personal note, I will not stop because of that, nor will I let anybody stop me and check my bag as I leave a store. I urge others to do the same.

      Traffic cameras are only used as an alternate tax.

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    3. Re:traffic laws enforced by cameras by Maeryk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now the automated system is sending you a ticket. One that will be near impossible to get out of, because, you know, computers don't make mistakes.

      I have driven for 15 years, and had three jobs that required driving 8 hours a day. I have _never_ run a red light to "avoid" someone behind me coming up fast. Have you? It's a straw man, in my opinion.

      How many times will the system ticket you if you are speeding? If I am speeding, I get a ticket and then slow down. An automated system would ticket me over and over and over.

      Heres a thought.. DONT SPEED! Howsabout that! I _hate_ chugging down the highway at highway speed, then suddenly being down to 45 (where the limit is 55) because some paranoiac at the front saw a cop and is now "making up" for going 70 before.

      So now an automated system is trusted more then you are.
      This is already a problem in stores. You are leaving a store, then suddenlt some infernal machine is beeping and flashing. So now you are in a position of proving your innocences to the shop keeper*. as a personal note, I will not stop because of that, nor will I let anybody stop me and check my bag as I leave a store. I urge others to do the same.


      I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you dont have anything in the bag you didnt pay for. But I kind of welcome those systems, because I know it keeps prices down. It may not stop _real_ accomplished shoplifters (like the guy I know who used to carry the tool to remove the trackers/dye-packs) but I suspect the majority of thefts are "cause I can" rather than people who are really into shoplifting. (Low number of career shoplifters vs relative high number of people who are kept honest by systems like that).

      Maeryk

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  6. Our hatred for the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The reason the US is so reviled abroad is that your government has committed evil in your name. You've supported brutal dictators, you've torn down democracies, you've bombed civilians, you've supported invasions of sovereign territory.

    The real way to stop terrorism is to stop pissing people off so much that they're willing to die just to slap your face. "Shock and Awe" isn't going to stop terrorism, unilateral action isn't going to win friends.

    Swallow your pride, work through your anger, stop killing so many people. Please.
  7. Re:It's a shame.... by Highwayman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want an international perspective try the main page Big Brother Awards homepage. They have links to a couple more countries. This is an interesting award, but I am sure it doesn't really compare to the the much less public tactics that you would find here. The big brother awards thing is a little skewed towards the west. The lack of places such as North Korea and Turkmenistan may just attest to the efficiency of such countries' big brother tactics. Hard to compete with such things like the old East German Stassi room filled with jars of scents of know dissedents for use by tracking dogs. I think these awards are quaint compared to somebody beating you unconscious in a third-world basement.

  8. Kazaa by silvakow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How did kazaa not make the list? They collect demographic information from every computer that is on its network.

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  9. We ALREADY know about MS, people! by Mulletproof · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Instead of beating the dead horse, induct them into the Hall of Fame already!

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  10. Re:Privacy Now More Than Ever by OneEyedApe · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A few Examples, pulled from http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/john-ashcrof t/

    The right to freely monitor the activities political and religious groups without a criminal pretext.

    New restrictions on open hearings and the public's right to receive information through the Freedom of Information Act.

    The ability to stamp down on the dangerous menace of librarians who tip off the media to federal subpoenas of borrowing records.

    Permission to monitor conversations between lawyers and suspects, on those increasingly rare occasions that suspects are allowed to have lawyers.

    The ability to detain Americans in prison indefinitely without trial or criminal charge.


    And to follow this up:

    Dramatically loosening restrictions on secret government surveillance of citizens, including on phones, e-mail and bank accounts.

    Adding a "deport at will" option allowing the Justice Department to circumvent inconvenient immigration laws.

    Expanding terrorism investigations to allow the Department to revoke the rights of anyone within about six degrees of separation of an actual terrorist act.

    Criminalizing the use of encrypted e-mail.

    Increasing the list of federal death-penalty crimes.

    Allowing the government to desecrate the graves of deceased victims of terrorism without permission from families.

    Restricting access to information about corporate pollution and environmental crimes. This would, incidentally, not only prevent private citizens from researching toxins in their backyards but would even restrict the ability of local governments to get information about environmental crimes in their own neighborhoods.

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