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Gnutella2 Specifications

An anonymous reader writes "After lots of heated debate regarding Gnutella2, (first story and more recent story), the specifications have finally been released. There is a mirror here. Let the debates begin."

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  1. Great! by Linux-based-robots · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can use this to share all my Linux warez with impunity!! Ha ha GPL take that! I'm sharing and there's nothing you can do about it!! NOTHING!

  2. The "About" information by Berylium · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you who don't want to pop over to the site. Or if it get's slashdotted (which would be odd).

    What is Gnutella2?
    Gnutella2 is a modern and efficient peer-to-peer network standard and architecture designed to provide a solid foundation for distributed global services such as person to person communication, data location and transfer and other future services.

    Why is it needed?
    Peer to peer technologies have become mainstream over recent years, and there are already a significant number of P2P networks in various stages of development and operation.

    How does yet another network help?
    Gnutella2 is unique amongst the currently operating peer to peer networks in several important ways:
    * Many of the most successful networks are "closed", owned by a single entity with restrictions or fees constituting a barrier to participation. This is not a viable model for an open, general purpose network. Gnutella2 is an open architecture where anyone is welcome to participate and contribute. The network has been designed to allow such diversity without the need for messy hacks or compromises in integrity.
    * The majority of networks are devoted to a single purpose, often the sharing of files. This is certainly a popular application for peer to peer technology, but it is by no means the only application. Gnutella2 is designed as a general purpose network which can be used as a solid foundation for any number of different peer to peer applications - vanilla file sharing, communications tools or other ideas which are yet to be conceived.
    * Some peer to peer networks have been developed with similar general purpose goals, however they have been unable to compete in the most popular application of the day, which is file sharing. For a general purpose network to succeed, it must be able to compete with purpose-specific networks in the most popular purpose. Gnutella2 is not only able to compete with the current popular file sharing specific networks, it outperforms them.

    What About "Old Gnutella"?
    The original "Gnutella" was created several years ago as a very simple, single vendor file-sharing specific network. Its simplicity made it a popular platform for file sharing application developers; however this simplicity also critically limited its effectiveness. As a result, competing file-sharing specific networks slowly but surely took over as the tools of choice as Gnutella users became frustrated with poor performance and turned elsewhere.
    The original Gnutella[1] network was designed for a very limited purpose and, despite many changes over the years, remains limited today. Efforts to make it a better file sharing network continue with mixed success.
    Gnutella2 shares the "Gnutella" name, striving to create the network that Gnutella should have been from the beginning. It shares the adopted ideals of openness and cooperation, but offers a fresh start that was sorely needed. The crippling limitations of the old network have been left behind and replaced with an entirely new network architecture ready to grow and develop through the creative efforts of many.

    What is the Scope of Gnutella2?
    The single name "Gnutella2" really refers to two separate components: Gnutella2 the Standard and Gnutella2 the Network.
    The Gnutella2 Network is perhaps the most easily recognised component. It is a new high-performance peer to peer network architecture upon which a variety of distributed applications can be built, such as file sharing applications, communication tools, etc.
    The Gnutella2 Standard is a set of requirements for building applications which operate on the Gnutella2 network in different capacities. It specifies the minimum compliance level required to be recognised as a Gnutella2-compatible application. Compliance with a Gnutella2 Standard ensures participating applications provide a minimum acceptable level of service to other network participants.

    1. Re:The "About" information by Adam+Fisk · · Score: 5, Informative
      Gnutella2, or "Mike's Protocol," has some interesting properties. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Gnutella, however. It's a separate protocol that is bootstrapping off of the Gnutella name to do things like get on Slashdot, and everyone here is falling for it.

      Characterizations of Gnutella as a simple, old protocol reflect a woeful ignorance of the many innovations that have emerged from Gnutella. In fact, much of Mike's Protocol calls "Gnutella 2" are innovations developed on Gnutella itself. These aren't simply close copies -- the protocols he cites are, in fact, Gnutella protocols. There are many more innovations happening on Gnutella as we speak, and the highjacking of the Gnutella name by Mike has weakened the fabric of an otherwise strong and open development community.

      We should all support open networks by supporting Gnutella. Gnutella2 offers interesting alternatives, but is no better than the work currently occurring on Gnutella. What's more, few if any Gnutella developers will ever support Gnutella2 because of the divisive way that it was introduced, permanently fracturing the Gnutella community, with almost all of the Gnutella community still working on Gnutella because they were never told of the so-called Gnutella2 until it was slashdotted, much as we're seeing today.

      If you support open protocols, support the original Gnutella. Gnutella2 does not solve any problems not currently solved by the original Gnutella clients. It simply creates division.

      --

      Adam Fisk

  3. Don't be fooled! It's not the 'official' Gnutella2 by Opiuman · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is "Mike's Protocol", as mentioned at the interview linked to from the previous post.

  4. Combine with EMule and Overnet Instead by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While refining the original protocol is all well and good, why not look towards intergration with other open networks now?

    I've used em all, as they say, and while no one client is best for all applications I'd say the Emule development is damn close. Since it's Open Source and there are several main "production" versions from different groups plus individual modders putting out even more versions on the cutting edge of development. The best code gets quickly integrated all the way from the edge to the trunk, I've had my eye on their mod forums as well as the latest emule 27a thru 27c releases and things are really moving towards another great milestone release.

    With the integration of Overnet support into EMule it now has the best of both worlds, with both public servers and client to client directories. Plus with weblink sites making it easy to find and add known good files to your queue, by batches if needed, it gives the end user the complete experiance of a mature tech.

    At least Gnutella is open and may actually end up moving in this direction, I'm disappointed in hearing that the upcomming WinMX will still be closed, both their client and their network really have some good features but in the P2P world closed is death IMHO. As for me, I'll be waiting for the latest 27c EMule as modded by Sivka, my personal favorite at this time.

    Jonah Hex

  5. Shareazza/mp concepts by throwaway18 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1) Shareaza works reasonably well though the lack of a usefull anti leech
    mechanism is a drawback. A leaf and hub architecture is a reasonable compromise,
    it usually dosn't allow searching of the whole network.
    A distributed hash table architecture would allow global search but DHT is
    vulnerable to an attacker with modest resources flooding the search space with
    junk.

    2)I'm interested in the reliable communiaction over UDP part of the protocol.

    Two peers, neither of whom accept incoming connections due to connection sharing
    or firewalling can't exchange files with any current p2p software.

    I'm a bit surprised that no p2p project has tried to do UDP connection splicing
    to allow two peers, both behind internet connection sharing (NAT) to talk to
    each other. It not be possible but I havn't come across anyone who has tried at all.
    It dosn't have to work for everyone to be usfull. Just allowing 10% of
    NATed hosts to communicate would be worth the effort.

    NAT routers usually allow outgoing UDP connections, normally the remote
    machine will be listening on a UDP prt (most common use is port 53 for domain
    name lookups. The local computer sends out a packet with a unique local port
    number (sequentially or randomly assigned) and a remote port of 53.
    When a UDP reply arrives from the internet, it also has a remote port number
    of 53 and the chosen local port number. The connection sharing machine
    looks at the local port number and compares it to a table of known connections.
    If it matches an entry it knows which of the computers behind the NAT
    it is intended for and forwards it.

    In theory, if two NATed hosts send out UDP packets at the same time, using
    the same port numbers the connection will penetrate the NATs. It requires the
    help of another machine but in a p2p system you have plenty of machines that
    can pass on some small messages.

    The only problem I can see is that a NAT may change the local port number.
    I hope that cheap cable/dsl routers only change the local port if necessary,
    or if they do will use predicatable numbers.

    This technique will also be usfull for getting through statefull firewalls.

    I need to research this more. Am I missing somthing?
    I'm aware that shifting files over UDP requires TCP compatible flow control
    so it dosn't hog all the bandwidth.

    3)Due to the number of people behind transparent proxys that hijack all outgoing
    connections to port 80 and the number of people who set their filesharing
    clients to listen on 80, I think is is a pity Mike didn't take the opportunity
    to add a faculity to encapsulate traffic with a fake HTTP GET header so it will
    go through http-only proxys. Kazaa does somthing like this.