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gobbo writes "The buzz amongst my Muslim acquaintances is that the al-Jazeera site is under "cyber-attack." Shortly after posting photos of mangled Iraqi children the server became unavailable. I don't have satellite TV to see if they are reporting anything on al-Jazeera itself, but pinging their name servers fails too. For those who don't already know, the al-Jazeera channel is a pan-Arabic satellite TV channel out of Qatar." While I am certain many h4x0rs are political, I can't help thinking that script kiddies are like moths to the flame of rising page views. (this was initially posted incorrectly, and has been moved to the proper date)

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  1. Military targets? by twemperor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this raises some new interesting questions.

    For example, the US military claimed that Iraqi TV, as it was providing information and instruction to Iraqi troops, was a legitimate military command and control target. Would similar online media outlets be similarly classified?

    More importantly, would hackers, even script kiddies, be considered combatants if they attack such a military target in a time of war?

    I don't think this has any practical implications, just philosophical...

    1. Re:Military targets? by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Would similar online media outlets be similarly classified?

      It's not a "similar" outlet. Unless you mean to bomb any foreign media that don't toe Rumsfeld's line. In spite of David Letterman sketches, al-Jazeera is neither Afghani or Iraqi, but is based in Qatar.

      See this article on its origins.

      Today, al-Jazeera is staffed by many of the same [BBC] journalists I saw weeping in London that day, including Azar. It is the lone Arabic broadcast outlet to put truth and objectivity above even its survival. For its pains during the five years of its existence, it has been attacked by virtually every government in the Middle East.
      They've also got a new English service. (Which was heavily overloaded even before this, so you'll have a hard time seeing it.)
    2. Re:Military targets? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      www.arabnews.com had an article comparing al-Jazeera and CNN.

      CNN portrayed as lying, deceitful, mouthpiece of the US administration.

      al-Jazeera portrayed as a font of wisdom and truth.

      Both statements are crap CNN may well sanitise its stories, and portray the US side (hey..it's a US company)

      But al-Jazeera is at least equally as bad.

      In reference to the current fighting...
      Does AJ show pics and video of Iraqi troops hiding among civilians and using them as shields? No
      Does AJ show report on the Iraqi troops using a hospital for a weapons cache? No
      Does AJ report on the use of explosives at the oil well heads? No.
      Does AJ report on the ecological disaster of lighting oil filled trenches on fire? No

      If you want to say CNN is not reporting 'fairly', OK..that may well be true.

      But please do NOT hold up AJ as the bastion of truth and objectivity.

    3. Re:Military targets? by sould · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Does AJ show pics and video of Iraqi troops hiding among civilians and using them as shields? No


      Has this been independantly corroborated? No.


      Does AJ show report on the Iraqi troops using a hospital for a weapons cache? No


      Has this been independantly corroborated? No.


      Does AJ report on the use of explosives at the oil well heads? No.

      Yes. Yes they do


      Does AJ report on the ecological disaster of lighting oil filled trenches on fire? No


      Yes. Yes they do.


      Who modded this retard and her/his americentric point of view up?


      Few people think al-Jazeera is unbiased, to compare it to CNN is frankly laughable.

  2. Slashdot effect on a global scale? by alienmole · · Score: 5, Interesting
    According to an Infoworld article, Al Jazeera had just published photos of the U.S. soldiers who were allegedly executed. In the U.S., these pictures have effectively been censored - the major media don't want to touch them. Mightn't Al-Jazeera simply be suffering from a large-scale Slashdot effect, as people around the world try to download photos?

    While consulting, I've come across companies doing all sorts of dumb or just lazy things which make their sites slow and not very scalable. Then they get a big burst of unusual activity for whatever reason, their site crashes, and they like to claim conspiracy because it means it's not their fault.

    I'll believe this is a DDOS when I see the IRC transcripts from the people claiming to be the perpetrators (if that's not proof, I don't know what is :) Till then, this is Al-Jazeera crying because their site couldn't handle sudden worldwide interest.

    1. Re:Slashdot effect on a global scale? by EZCheese · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll believe this is a DDOS when I see the IRC transcripts from the people claiming to be the perpetrators (if that's not proof, I don't know what is :) Till then, this is Al-Jazeera crying because their site couldn't handle sudden worldwide interest.

      According to the article you cited, the DDOS attack is being directed at their name servers, and not the web server (which is why I'm not getting "unable to resolve host" messages). Name servers generally don't wither under high volume - this seems more like a deliberate attack than a large-scale Slashdot effect.

  3. Freedom of the Press by ewe2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find the apathy on this site towards the possible gagging of a media organization disturbing. On a TV report this week, I learnt a lot about al-Jazzeera. Yes, they are pan-Arabic. Yes, they are critical of the US. They've also been threatened by every single Arab country in the region - closed down, ambassadors recalled, physical attacks. And it was bombed by the US in the first Gulf War when it reported the killing of civilians in a supposedly military target.

    You can't have it both ways, even in a war. The Net is being used for some of the most blatant propaganda I've ever seen, but shutting down the Arab side of the argument isn't going avoid bigger problems later.

    --
    insecurity asks the wrong question irritation gives the wrong answer
  4. Re:Weird by Kasperitus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was an article in the Wall St Journal a few days ago discussing the bias of US reporters. They mentioned that many of the "embedded" journalists use the personal pronoun "we" all the time. They compared that with a clip from a British reporter who was careful enough to detach himself, referring to the soldiers using "they". "They are encountering resistance..." "They are approaching Baghdad..." etc. Its a noticable difference.

    The article also mentioned that BBC seems to be doing a better job trying objective than US stations.

  5. Freenet? by gfilion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would it be a good idea for Al-jazeera to publish their content on freenet? Their articles would then be immune to any kind of censorship like they claim they are victim of.

  6. Re:Weird by hazem · · Score: 5, Informative

    Al-Jazeera's pretty interesting. I've been watching it for about 3 years now. My Arabic isn't stellar, but I'm able to keep up with it pretty well.

    Before the current war, it was a lot like a cross between CNN, with news & comentary, and Discovery, with documentaries.

    It has an interesting history. As I understand it, the prince of Qatar funds it, but leaves it in the hands of the station to do all their own editorial control.

    It definitely had an Arab point of view, but to me that makes sense. Looking at it from that point of view, I would almost say that it is fairly balanced. Just as an American would probably find CNN fairly balanced.

    They don't hesitate to put Americans on (translated - unless you're former embassador Dennis Ross - he showed up on a debate show and handled it all in BEATUFIUL Arabic!). Rice and Powell have both been on there, but so has Saddam, and Tariq Aziz.

    Is there an anti-American slant? Well, even though few Arabs like Saddam and his regime, very few are very keen on the idea of a superpower coming in and taking out an Arab regime. The whole region has an unpleasant history of colonialism and occupation, and for many, this just appears to be another chapter in it. A lot will depend on how we handle the post-Saddam iraq.

    Another thing that is interesting... it's not a new thing that they're showing dead bodies and such. For as long as I've watched, they've not had a probelm with showing dead Palestinians or dead Israelis in that conflict. They don't talk over it either - sometimes just several minutes of showing what is going on or what has happened.

    So, I've rambled on, not really answering your question, but I don't often get to talk about Al-Jazeera.