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CDMA vs. GSM in Post-war Iraq

An anonymous reader submits: "Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) is pressing congress to favor CDMA over GSM for mobile phone service in U.S.-funded reconstruction plans. One reason for pushing this is that a CDMA system would benefit American companies, such as California-based Qualcomm, while GSM would favor European companies. Currently, GSM is the most widely used mobile standard in surrounding countries."

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  1. Well... by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this is going to be US funded I thinks it's okay to favor US companies even though I personally like/use GSM. If the money will be loaned to Iraq and later recouped via oil sales, etc. then GSM should be used. It's not like Sony-Ericsson is a French company!

  2. CDMA rocks! by nebbian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've had a CDMA phone for over two years now, and love it to death! There are a number of benefits, including longer range, lower amounts of microwaves hitting your skull, and so on.

    GSM phones can exist in the same area as CDMA, I know this for a fact because all my friends have GSM...

    What will probably happen is that the standard competitive environment will emerge anyway -- company A puts up GSM towers, company B puts up CDMA towers, and both try to convince the public that their system is better. Some people buy one system, some buy the other, based on what's important to that individual. This is, in my opinion, a much better system than relying on one technology -- and it's a system that will emerge without any form of legislation. Why can't political leaders just keep their noses out of it? :-)

  3. In other news by RelliK · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Before the US military even finished bombing Iraq, the contracts for rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure have already been awarded to US corporations. Among those corporations is Haliburton, where vice president Dick Cheney served as CEO. He is still on Haliburton's payroll and still owns 8 million of Haliburton's stock options.

    The more damage US military does to Iraq's infrastructure, the more money will US corporations make on rebuilding. US government is planning to use Iraqi oil to pay for this enterprise.

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    1. Re:In other news by loucura! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He still maintains options, and is paid yearly no matter the financial state of the company.

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  4. Re:My thoughts by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, GSM phones are the local standard, and any attempt by the Americans to impose CSMA is nothing short than continued imperialism.

    Oh, come off the high horse for just a minute and think rationally.

    Here's a country with no effective mobile phone system. It needs a new one, and one's going to be put in place over the next few years. If you're a mobile phone company executive who is not slavering over this opportunity, you're not doing your job.

    The Congressman's proposal is a perfectly valid one: here's an opportunity that has arisen (more accurately, that will arise) as a result of the war. Let's give American companies first swing at it.

    Whether this proposal will ultimately be a good idea or not is up to the various House committees to decide.

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  5. GSM vs CDMA on technical issues by EQ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    GSM? WHICH GSM? Africa, US or European frequency?

    GSM not as universal as most think.

    CDMA is head and shoulders above - look at where the highspeed wireless is going - CDMA, not GSM. Plus CDMA is more efficient in its bandwidth usage than GSM. Remember GSM is still TDMA at its roots. So CDMA has better spectral efficiency.

    Example: GSM provides 8 slots in a channel 200 kHz wide, while IS-136 provides 3 slots in a channel only 30 kHz wide. GSM therefore consumes 25 kHz per user, while IS-136 consumes only 10 kHz per user.

    Plus you should take into account the terrain and desnity - Iraq probably is not all that population dense outside of Baghdad and Basra. CDMA really comes into its element when you are out in the countryside with few sites covering large expanses of land. Under these conditions CDMA provides extremely stable audio with few frame errors to mess things up. This is because Channel Pollution is almost non-existent in these situations. Under similar conditions TDMA suffers too readily from interference and it will often blank the audio. Many people who use CDMA systems in sparsely populated areas have given this technology extremely high marks.

    Nex you should look at GPRS versus CDMA2000/1xRTT, and the costs to upgrade from these technologies to genuine 3G communications. Without going into the specifics, CDMA holds a slight advantage here as well.

    So despite the obvious political motivations behind this decision, technologically speaking, it s actually a good decision to favor CDMA.

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  6. Re:This is a joke right? by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Of course, they claim to have destroyed dozens of our tanks, too, so we know their claims are far from perfect.


    How come? I mean, so far things have been going something like this:

    Iraq: We shot down an Apache gunship!
    US: Nope, we haven't lost any helicopters
    Iraq: Well, here is a video-clip of that downed Apache
    US: Uhhhhh, yeah we did lose a helicopter

    Iraq: Our forces are still fighting in Umm Qasr
    US: Nope, Umm Qasr is secure
    Journalists: From what I saw, there's still fierce fighting going on there
    US: OK, OK. We are still fighting in Umm Qasr

    To me it seems that the Coalition denies or plays down any casualties or problems they face, untill they are proven to be wrong one way or the other. So when Iraq says they have destroyed dozen Abrams (we do know for sure that US has lost several tanks) and US denies it, I wouldn't take the word of US as gospel (I wouldn't take the word of Iraq as gospel either).
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