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Technical Review for Red Hat Linux 9

ewilts writes "Dax Kelson from Guru Labs has posted a technical review for Red Hat Linux 9. It's a definite read if you want to get away from the marketing fluff that focuses on eye-candy and instead read about the release from a sysadmin's point-of-view."

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  1. Possible Comprimise? by the_pooh_experience · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A nice feature for authors of documentation (such as myself) is the ability to take screenshots during the installation via SHIFT+PrntScrn. The images are placed in /root/anaconda- screenshots/. Previously large hoops had to be jumped through to get screenshots of the installation process.

    Is it just me, or does this seem like a hole waiting for a compromiser? Does anyone know of if there a way to turn this off?

    1. Re:Possible Comprimise? by insanecarbonbasedlif · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A nice feature for authors of documentation (such as myself) is the ability to take screenshots during the installation via SHIFT+PrntScrn. The images are placed in /root/anaconda- screenshots/. Previously large hoops had to be jumped through to get screenshots of the installation process.

      Is it just me, or does this seem like a hole waiting for a compromiser? Does anyone know of if there a way to turn this off?

      I'm sorry, I maybe just don't get it, but what *possible* hole does this create? Some hacker coming in and hitting "Shift+PrntScrn" to get a look at what packages you're installing?!
      Please, let me know if I'm wrong...

      (Or is this just a troll that I got taken on?)

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  2. Great Review...OSNew's Review Sucks by dmoney303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is an excellent review of the Red Hat 9, way better than the review over at OSNews; I'm still not sure if it justifies upgrading from Red Hat 8.0 and it's stability though. For all those people that blame 9.0 for WINE's new problem, you're DEAD WRONG...blame WINE for that.

    On a side note, I have no idea how those OSNews people stay in business. They may be exclusives, but their writing is HORRIBLE.

  3. nice to see... by EZmagz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's nice to see a review like this. Usually with stuff like this (whether it's a distro, software package, etc.) there's a generic CHANGELOG that might say "Updated to Gnome ver. 2.x" but it won't say WHAT is new! I admit that I'm lazy, but I don't want to go to each software package's website to see what they've done on my own.

    Just a pet peeve of mine, and I would like to see more reviews/articles like this. Now, back to the fake-RFC's and slew of other shitty April Fools jokes.

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    1. Re:nice to see... by hutman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I Agree - most reviews I see lean way too far in the political direction and don't say much about what I will actually see. It's also great to know what I will have problems with.

  4. What a review should be like by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I very much welcome the post of this informative review of RH 9.0 . I hope this starts a trend in Slashdot, and that childish, bitching, immature first-person-experience reviews (should we even call them "reviews"?) are no longer posted here. Posting serious Journalism is a way to promote it. Slashdot Editors: please stop feeding trolls

    On the bright side, I think that RedHat's decision to split their software in a publically available, bleeding edge distribution and a more conservative, corporate version is just great. The former is a test bed for the latter. Donwnloaders and enthusiasts do the stress tests, corporations get a stabilized product. Excellent scheme !

    1. Re:What a review should be like by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I very much welcome the post of this informative review of RH 9.0 . I hope this starts a trend in Slashdot, and that childish, bitching, immature first-person-experience reviews (should we even call them "reviews"?)

      I think that's what makes this an April Fool's joke - it's actually a legit article on Slashdot of all places.

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  5. excellent! this is seriously just what I wanted... by AssFace · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this lets me know that there is nothing worthwhile in it for me to get.
    which saves me time and effort.

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  6. Re:great by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Cause reviews are so well-written these days.

    1) Installation was a snap. It autodetected my SBLive! Value as well as my ATI Radeon 9000 and installed the drivers automagically. I even got a nice boot screen! However, my modem wasn't detected automatically.

    )2) The new KDE desktop looks great. I can't believe the font rendering is so great! However, I tried to install app foo, and the rpm required lib bar, and I had to install bar from a previous distribution, and it seemed to overwrite stuff!

    Conclusion? A very nice desktop distro, but it's just not quite "ready" yet. It needs to work out a few kinks before it can beat Windows.

    End review, and begin huge flamewars in comments section (along with 300 "You haven't upgraded to gentoo yet? For shame! Kde is as easy as 'emerge kde'" posts).

    I know this review is different, but have you seen OS News lately? Kudos to Eugenia for her hard and unpaid work, but man the discussions and reviews (not hers, but the guest reviewers) have gotten really formulaic.

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  7. Re:Text of Review by killerc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you see the Copyright notice?

    Hey, maybe they wrote that so people would COME TO THE WEBSITE!

    Please mod it down.


    What's the larger discourtesy -- re-broadcasting copyrighted text, or bringing a server to its knees by way of a Slashdotting?

    Bandwidth costs money and when people want to drive traffic to their site, few (if any) have a slashdotting in mind. Posting article texts is merely a way to lessen the effect.

  8. Re: pains of upgrades by Bill+Privatus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sympathy from one who shares growing pains.

    Eterm is a better terminal, IMHO, but even *it* changed its argument processing between 0.8 and 0.9 (yep, there's that low-version-number open source thingy again).

    I have a shell script that "randomizes" the background for each new Eterm I launch, and plays an equally "random" sound file at the same time. I had to change the script when tiling vs centering changed.

    It's irritating, but come on, you don't actually type in that stuff from the command line, do you? I changed my shell script once, and it worked after that [um, except for the fact that I then had to upgrade all the Eterm software on my linux boxen, as the script was mirrored on them all! ;-]

    And, of course, at the other end of the spectrum is Java and MS-DOS, which acts in a deprecating fashion and never drops any baggage, respectively...

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  9. Re:Text of Review by cpeterso · · Score: 2, Insightful


    This review of RH9 documented so many Linux quirks, caveats, workarounds, and incompatibilities that I, as a Windows user, first assumed it was an April Fool's joke. Having read the entire article, I sadly admit this must be real..

  10. Linux for the masses by cenonce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everytime a story comes out on Red Hat, we get the "Red Hat is the MS of Linux" posts and the "F@ck Red Hat, roll your own with Gentoo" and the "Debian Rules" posts.

    First, I think Red Hat is far from the MS of Linux. I paid 60 bucks to be a part of RHN and I actually downloaded RH 8.0 without paying anything. Now, I will complain (as I did in a previous story) that it pisses me off that I pay that 60 bucks for "priority ISOs"and I am on my fifth try of downloading RH 9.0 disk 1, but that is a different issue.

    It was my understanding that the "goal" of the open source community was to get a "desktop Linux" up and running to compete with MS. Gentoo and Debian are way too complicated for that... I can install Debian and Slackware with difficulty (never had success with Gentoo). But I am a "regular user" with just enough gumption and knowledge to be dangerous to myself when it comes to Linux installs. Frankly, that is why I like Red Hat. I have never had an install problem and I always have a working "desktop computer" to use.

    Yeah, rolling your own kernel is great, I guess... I've never actually done it... I frankly don't have the time to sit down and figure it out. I count on solid, trouble free distros like Red Hat to get me a working Linux "desktop system" and then I'll compile Apache the way I want on my own (and I still have to do some planning to get it right). But, most desktop users are just fine and happy with the "easy install" of the system and the software they want (Apache, Open Office... whatever).

    If the community ever wants to get Linux out of the background for desktop computing, more time has to be spent on easy installs from ALL distro providers and easy (basically meaning, no command line) configurations. Rolling your own kernel and command line configs will always be be there for the hardcore geeks.

    1. Re:Linux for the masses by AELinuxGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It was my understanding that the "goal" of the open source community was to get a "desktop Linux" up and running to compete with MS.

      It is a misunderstanding to say that the goal of the Open Source community is merely to produce a desktop software that competes with Microsoft Windows. If that were the case it would not even be worth bothering...if you want an alternative to Windows then go buy a Mac. Rather, the goal of the Open Source community is more along the lines of re-gaining control of the software that runs our lives. It is about freedom, it is about community, and it is about hacking for the fun of it. I don't disagree with what you are saying about the importance of a simple installation and maintenance for the desktop market...we've got a LONG way to go. Just do not lump the success of our reach into that market with the strides we are making in other areas (like the server market).

  11. Re:great by Compenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which application?
    Did you check if redhat ships it first?
    did you check for compat libs and libs with numbers on the end?
    If that still doesn't help its probably targetted for another distro/version
    did you try rebuilding the SRPM?