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Habeas Seeks Poetic Justice for Trademarked Spam

Remember the company who started using haiku to fight spam? According to a news.com article, it will now be tested in court. Habeas is suing two internet marketers, saying that they've included Habeas' haiku in their mail, thereby lowering their SpamAssassin score by 6 points, but allegedly violating the trademark. It's interesting because the end effect of this will be more or less spam, but it's based on trademark law. It'll also be interesting to see how well this holds up across national boundaries.

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  1. Re:How Big A Problem Is Spam Really? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you don't think bandwidth use is a problem, if you don't think needing spam filters is a problem, if you don't think storage space is a problem, if you don't think that losing legitimate email when a spam filter malfunctions is a problem, if you don't think unauthorized computer access is a problem, if you don't think that crashing mail servers under abusive volumes of traffic is a problem, if you don't think wire fraud is a problem, then consider this:

    Spam is threatening connectivity and shutting down useful services. Open relays used to be a public convenience. Because of spam, if you set one up today, you'll find thousands of places blocking your traffic. Mailing lists used to allow non-subscribers to post. Because of spam, you now have to subscribe first before asking a question. We used to imagine the net as a worldwide utility. Because of spam, many people are now blocking everything from China.

    Does this answer your question?

  2. $100 reward for information about a spammer by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I, John Nagle, owner of the US registered trademark "Downside", will pay $100 to the first person who can provide to me the identity of the actual person or persons behind any of the following sites:
    • girlswhocry.net
    • contipay.com
    • profitabill.com
    Why? I've received over 16,000 mail bounces from spam advertising these sites. They, or some person associated with them, has been spamming with "downside.com" return addresses.

    Rules and comments:

    • I already know what Whois and traceroute will tell me, and I know who hosts those sites. That's not helpful. I do have information that indicates that the operation is inside the United States. So I will only pay for a US name and address at which a process server can deliver a summons.
    • The sites for "contipay.com" and "profitabill.com" look like sites of businesses that do billing for third parties. They're not real companies; they're false fronts.
    • These sites have changed hosting providers and billing arrangements since I started looking for them and talking to their hosting providers. But they tend to stay up, although they move around.

    I can be reached at "spammersearch@downside.com". Thank you.

  3. How to beat the spam detectors by tramm · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If I were to ever become a spammer, I would:
    • send my mail with gnus (-6.4 points)
    • add an 'X-Cron-Env' header (another -6.4 points)
    • add a fake 'In-reply-to' (-3.3 points)
    • include the sendmail X-Auth warning (-1.008 points)
    • have a sig dash with dense sig (another -6.4 points)
    • include some diff -u output (-6.027)
    • Have 'foo@bar wrote:' attribution (-6.6)
    • Have quote text (-3.3)
    • Fake a good Exchange ID (-5.8)
    At this point, the message has a -45.135 bonus and would have to be super spam to be scored as spam. Let's hope none of those scum read the comments on Slashdot...
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    -- http://www.swcp.com/~hudson/
    1. Re:How to beat the spam detectors by Dwedit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod parent down! Scum DO read slashdot! Censor this post!

  4. We need a new protocol for mail by infernalC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Internet springtime
    the academics messaged
    amongst their boxen

    the diverse systems
    without the scourge of commerce
    by s m t p

    cooperated
    microsoft and sun and dec
    unisys, hp

    then came eye candy
    if you build it they will come
    e-commerce flourished

    summertime came soon
    venture capital dodo
    the money dried up

    quick buck was desired
    send lots of mail to granny
    she is rich and dumb

    in greed's bosom born
    marketing technique evil
    electronic mail

    spam spam spam spam spam
    filtering is most futile
    protocol not good

    header forging easy
    there must be a better way
    new rfc please

    even with new way
    migration would be a bitch
    forget about it