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Yet Another Perl Conference - Israel
Gabor Szabo writes "For anyone interested in Perl,
Yet Another Perl Conference is coming to Haifa, Israel on May 11th. Registration is now open. Though the schedule is not final yet the list of presentations
is already finished. There are going to be a quite some excellent presentations including Perl and .NET. This is a great way to get involved in the Perl community."
And here I thought Hebrew was the One true language
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Love conquers all... except CANCER
while (<ID_LIKE_TO_GO>){
if(in("Israel") == 1){
$too_expensive = 1;
}
}
return("Michael.")
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As much as Israel would like to say that it is the only democracy in the middle east, that doesn't amount to much when such a huge proportion of their indigenous population is being actively oppressed. As much as I admire the Jewish faith, I do not believe that its ethics are reflected in Israel's policies, and I do not support what is going on over there.
I'm sure that this post will completely kill my karma, but it has to be said. Again, and again, and again, and again, and again.... until someone finally fixes the situation in an ethical way. And no, that does not mean bulldozing houses, erecting a fence, week-long curfews, erecting military bases, or building settlements on occupied land.
What is going on in Israel is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Moderators do your worst. It has to be said.
Israel may be interesting however I think the one in Boca Raton, FL will be my preferred venue!
KARMA TAG! You're it.
SO please moderators, do your job.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Why is it that almost everytime anybody posts something negative or even critical of Israel (with regards to their occupation of Palestinian land) it is moderated down, mostly for being "off-topic"?
:D ;) ") would know better.
Read the title, please. It's about a Perl conference in Israel. So both the aspect "Perl" and "Israel" are part of the topic. If the Israel-aspect was not considered on-topic, then how come the non-critical Israel-related posts (about wanting to go there on vacation, jokes about Perl versus Hebrew als the one true language, etc) are not being moderated down?
I know that US politicians would never dream of saying anything negative about Israel, no matter what Israel would do wrong. But I really had the (rather naive, it turns out) hope that the intellectual crowd here on Slashdot ("Did you hear that? He called us 'inttellectual!'
About the moderating down bit: a good example was the Moshe Bar interview a couple of months back. Every single post even mentioning the word "Palestinian" was unconditionally moderated down.
This really frustrated me, because I would really have liked to hear his opninion on the bad things Israel has been doing. What was Slashdot affraid of? That we would be hurting his feelings or something? That we would be embarrassing him? Why? To me he appeared to be quite an intelligent man with ample common sense. He would definately have taken such questions seriously and anwwered them. Even if I hadn't agreed with what his opinions would have been, I would still have liked to have read them. Hey, who knows? He could have surprised us all with an answer none of us would have expected? But now we won't know... At least not until he is interviewed again somewhere else where they will have the courage to ask him more controversial questions. (Perhaps such an interview already has taken place somewhere, if so, somebody please give me a link. Thanks.)
The bottom line is: Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land (in violation of UN resolution 242 and about a dozen other resolutions) and in doing so, continously violating human rights on a large scale. Furthermore, that country is currently being run by Ariel Sharon, who has been accused of being involved in (or actually having masterminded) mass genocide in the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps in Lebanon. And that guy was democratically elected!
Okay, enough right now. I have had this discussion over and over throughout the years. The point I'm trying to make is that Israel cannot be mentioned without the controversy which surrounds it, due to the occupation of Palestine and the oppression of it's people. Modding posts even remotely mentioning this down with "off-topic" is wrongful in any discussion involving Israel.
When there's a cricket match in Zimbabwe (for the sake of argument, I know, this is Slashdot), would we moderate down any posts mentioning Mugabe? And if Iraq ever comes up (even if it's about a non-war topic, if that's even possible), come on: of course people would still start talking about Saddam Hussein and his alleged ownership of WMD's.
Please moderators, be honest and just. That's all I ask. Repoleved's post had to do with Israel, so therefore it was not off-topic. Please moderate him back up.
And Michael.Forman, thanks for the Rachel Corrie article. Why do you never hear of such things in the US-media? Isn't it typical that this topic has to be found on Alertnet (Reuters)? And may I also add the betrayal of the USS Liberty to that? (Check Google of you want to dig back into history.)
One more point before ending this post, just to take away any confusion: I am half-Palestinian myself and I condemn Israel for how they have been treating the Palestinians throughout the most recent decades. But, although I support Palestinian armed resistance against military targets (including armed colonists), I condemn terrorist bombing of civilians, especially childr
"Oooh, does that mean we get to kick some puffy white mad zionist butt?"
I think Haifa would be a great place to visit. See the Haifa Tourism Guide .
I've never been there, but it looks stunningly beautiful and fun judging by these pictures (check Haifa and click Go for 101 pictures)
israel is too dangerous for me, and over the next couple of weeks lets face it it's only gonna get worse.
That's a popular misconception perpetrated by the media. In spite of the ongoing Oslo War, most Israeli immigrants say they feel safer in Israel than in the places they came from, including America. Really, you probably have more chance of getting murdered in Brooklyn or Miami than in most of Israel. American and European tourists report that they feel safe there, too. Also, Israel's El-Al Airline is the safest airline in the world. Being among so many Arab countries, they have a lot of experience in dealing with terrorist threats. Its security is unmatched.
Right now is an especially safe time to visit Israel because the terrorists are on the run and cowering in their lairs. Yassir Arafat and the PA are scared to death of doing anything that might expand the war in Iraq into their region. They wouldn't dare attack during this war. They're keeping very quiet. Iraq hasn't attacked Israel either.
I would have absolutely no qualms about visiting Israel now. I just wish I had the money. Don't let fear be the factor that prevents you from going to the Perl conference.
Hi Motown,
:)
You're right.. my post wasn't offtopic, but there is a method to the madness. When the moderations are meta-moderated, there is a chance that offtopic will not get the moderator banned from moderating, if there is any reason to give that moderator the benefit of the doubt (that perhaps the post was off-topic after all). Some moderators do not even think about this and will mark messages such as the one I posted as flamebait. Very often, both of these rankings will be marked as unfair, but it is more likely that flamebait would be marked as unfair, since what I said was true and relevant. Troll would have the metamoderators looking through my history, and they would see that I am not a troll. Another tried and true one is "redundant" since (especially in well populated topics) it is hard to argue that something wasn't "redundant".
Anyway, my philosophy is why try to stop a river? Moderators will always try to suppress ideas that they do not like in predictable ways. Just use the following slashdot features that will render the attempts at censorship ineffective in your own case, and then speak your mind when appropriate. The more voices there are to speak the truth, the harder it is to waste modpoints on hiding it.
Actively choose whether people are: Friends/Foes/Freaks
and use the following modifiers in your preferences:
Offtopic +6
Redundant +2
Anonymous -6 (this cancels out with the offtopic modifier since anonymous people often write offtopic posts)
Karma Bonus +2
Friend +3
Fan +2
Friends of Friends +1
New User Modifier +2
Cheers,
Repoleved
PS. Spread the word...
Being among so many Arab countries, they have a lot of experience in dealing with terrorist threats
so *all* arabs are terrorists now ?
did it ever occur to you what made people so desperate and willing to wear explosives and blow themselves up? what cause ?
and dont give me the Zionist bullshit propaganda about attacking civilians Israel systematically kills civilians and demolish homes of civilians and suicide bombers families...is do you call that JUSTIACE?
the latest was bombing of a school by right-wing jewish extremists
read the link and fuck yourself for being so ignorant
and one more thing TO HELL WITH KARMA
$too_expensive++ if(in("Israel")) while ();
"Rob."
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So, any lovely girls still reading this article, please email me. Beseder?
Toda raba veLehitra'ot.
Slashdot community, please notice: I am looking for a girlfriend.
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