... dude... have you even played MXO? The early assumption (over a year ago) was that everyone would want to be The One. In practice however, that is not the case. You can excel at many different types of characters just like EQ and just like WoW. And you statement that "Neo is a hired character" is thus far false. Neo is not a Dev character that has made an appearence in game nor is he expected to.
I don't think you understand. First, these 13 people represent characters that are very important to the core storyline. Second, all of the players of the game will interact with these people in some way. The more real and true the interaction, the more immersive and better the story.
So, to say 13 average players couldn't impact a storyline is probably true. However, to say 13 central character with actors behind them can't impact a storyline when the storyline itself is built around them is a fallacy.
I responded already to a post similar to yours with the following:
"You've misunderstood what I said. The game IS fun right at the start. In fact, it contiunues to be fun as long as you want to play it because there is so much content. My point is, IF you are bored after three days it is your own fault... not the games. There is no way you could experience all the content and fun in three day."
You've misunderstood what I said. The game IS fun right at the start. In fact, it contiunues to be fun as long as you want to play it because there is so much content. My point is, IF you are bored after three days it is your own fault... not the games. There is no way you could experience all the content and fun in three day.
The first post states that is game is boring, etc. after they played the game for a WHOLE three days.
The world is so vast that you could not expereience all the content in three days. No way in hell.
MXO is a fun game. If you enjoy the world of The Matrix movies, you will enjoy this game.
There are a lot of comments about repetetive game missions. The thing is... these people CHOOSE to repeat similar missions over and over... they are not forced to.
Join this game, invest some REAL time (more then three days) and immerse yourself. MXO is a very solid and fun game.
Actually, I would much rather have NASA attempting to realize a 'multi-home' survival. That way, I can leave this rock and go to another safer rock when yet another big rock is careening towards the current rock at a catastrophic velocity. The ocean would provide a little protection... but probably not enough. Redundancy, please?
I am curious HighOrbit... what do you do for a living? Do you better humanity's condition daily? What do you spend your money on? Anything for yourself? Any luxuries? Lecturing on Slashdot is all well and good... but I doubt you hold up to your own standards... most people don't hold up to their own. Can you? I would welcome a reply.
"Does he look enough like the Hulk that you could get sued for selling the image?"
Yes. If I did it in volume etc. etc. profit, etc.
"Which part of the character creator should be crippled to prevent this "violation"? Should you not be allowed to make green-skinned heroes? No purple-colored pants? No muscular dudes?"
ARGH... read the whole god damn thread. I am not saying we should limit the character creator. A limit is already imposed on the character creator... there is a finite set of options.
"The variety of choices available in the CoH character creator pretty much makes it the same thing as selling a set of art pens to somebody who knows how to draw well."
Closer maybe... but nope. The parent is wrong and that statement is wrong, though a bit less. CoH provides a finite mechanism to draw "The Incredible Hulk"... art pens, do not.
I wish I could save this post as a draft... but I can't so... I am going to finish my part in this thread right now! See you all later... off on vacation I go.:)
How can limited combinations lead to infinite possibilites?
A set of crayons is limited on color... yes. And again, CoH obviouslt offers a finite set of colors. However, CoH also offers a finite amount of creativity... so to speak. You can't have a hero with 10802709 heads. But, I could draw a hero with 10802709 (if I was so inclined) with those crayons.
I understand what you are saying... and you're right. However, we are comparing copyrighted image likeness with copyrighted name likeness... which makes that unrelated to the matter being considered.
Did you even READ what I posted... it does NOT say that it is OK if the elite violate copyright. What I am saying is... the parent post was WAY off base.
If someone who can draw the Hulk does... and then calls the drawing 'Kluh' and makes a profit (comic, whatever)... THAT IS a violation of copyright.
If I (who can't draw for shit), draw a picture that only I know was intended to look like the Hulk, and then sell that 'non-likeness' under the name 'Kluh', chances are I will NEVER be convicted of copyright... it doesn't look anything like the Hulk.
I am not justifying the suit for Marvel here, fanboy. I am simpy stating the parent is blatently wrong.
CoH provided a finite set of options to the masses for character creation. They do not own copyright on all the combinations therein... obviously.
Your missing the point... the original post implied the equality of suing Bic for drawing charcters similar to Wolverine and the Hulk. In that case you are correct in asking the question "So who is violating the copyright?" With a Bic I can draw whatever is in my brain (feasibly, although not well); an unending and infinite set of possibilities.
CoH, however, certainly provides mechanics for the production of a finite set of character combinations. I to have logged a few hundred hours in CoH and I agree with you.. hardly ever do you see a comic book rip-off... but the mechanics are there... and they are around. I suppose you could still argue "who is violating the copyright..." but the original analogy is wrong.
I never understood this. From opening day of SWG I NEVER wanted to be a Jedi. I still don't. You are right however, it is a dilemma for the masses. Perhaps if they would have mixed there servers a bit... some with 10 max Jedi... some with unlimited Jedi, etc. *shrug*
Dictionary.com states: A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
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Shouldn't the parent post be mod'd flamebait and not insightful? I mean, really ...
... read it again. That was my post.
... dude ... have you even played MXO? The early assumption (over a year ago) was that everyone would want to be The One. In practice however, that is not the case. You can excel at many different types of characters just like EQ and just like WoW. And you statement that "Neo is a hired character" is thus far false. Neo is not a Dev character that has made an appearence in game nor is he expected to.
I don't think you understand. First, these 13 people represent characters that are very important to the core storyline. Second, all of the players of the game will interact with these people in some way. The more real and true the interaction, the more immersive and better the story.
So, to say 13 average players couldn't impact a storyline is probably true. However, to say 13 central character with actors behind them can't impact a storyline when the storyline itself is built around them is a fallacy.
I responded already to a post similar to yours with the following:
... not the games. There is no way you could experience all the content and fun in three day."
"You've misunderstood what I said. The game IS fun right at the start. In fact, it contiunues to be fun as long as you want to play it because there is so much content. My point is, IF you are bored after three days it is your own fault
You've misunderstood what I said. The game IS fun right at the start. In fact, it contiunues to be fun as long as you want to play it because there is so much content. My point is, IF you are bored after three days it is your own fault ... not the games. There is no way you could experience all the content and fun in three day.
The first post states that is game is boring, etc. after they played the game for a WHOLE three days.
... these people CHOOSE to repeat similar missions over and over ... they are not forced to.
The world is so vast that you could not expereience all the content in three days. No way in hell.
MXO is a fun game. If you enjoy the world of The Matrix movies, you will enjoy this game.
There are a lot of comments about repetetive game missions. The thing is
Join this game, invest some REAL time (more then three days) and immerse yourself. MXO is a very solid and fun game.
Actually, I would much rather have NASA attempting to realize a 'multi-home' survival. That way, I can leave this rock and go to another safer rock when yet another big rock is careening towards the current rock at a catastrophic velocity. The ocean would provide a little protection ... but probably not enough. Redundancy, please?
Is there sarcasm in this? I feel there should be but I can't find it.
I am curious HighOrbit ... what do you do for a living? Do you better humanity's condition daily? What do you spend your money on? Anything for yourself? Any luxuries? Lecturing on Slashdot is all well and good ... but I doubt you hold up to your own standards ... most people don't hold up to their own. Can you? I would welcome a reply.
"Does he look enough like the Hulk that you could get sued for selling the image?"
... read the whole god damn thread. I am not saying we should limit the character creator. A limit is already imposed on the character creator ... there is a finite set of options.
... but nope. The parent is wrong and that statement is wrong, though a bit less. CoH provides a finite mechanism to draw "The Incredible Hulk" ... art pens, do not.
... but I can't so ... I am going to finish my part in this thread right now! See you all later ... off on vacation I go. :)
Yes. If I did it in volume etc. etc. profit, etc.
"Which part of the character creator should be crippled to prevent this "violation"? Should you not be allowed to make green-skinned heroes? No purple-colored pants? No muscular dudes?"
ARGH
"The variety of choices available in the CoH character creator pretty much makes it the same thing as selling a set of art pens to somebody who knows how to draw well."
Closer maybe
I wish I could save this post as a draft
How can limited combinations lead to infinite possibilites?
... yes. And again, CoH obviouslt offers a finite set of colors. However, CoH also offers a finite amount of creativity ... so to speak. You can't have a hero with 10802709 heads. But, I could draw a hero with 10802709 (if I was so inclined) with those crayons.
A set of crayons is limited on color
I understand what you are saying ... and you're right. However, we are comparing copyrighted image likeness with copyrighted name likeness ... which makes that unrelated to the matter being considered.
Did you even READ what I posted ... it does NOT say that it is OK if the elite violate copyright. What I am saying is ... the parent post was WAY off base.
... and then calls the drawing 'Kluh' and makes a profit (comic, whatever)... THAT IS a violation of copyright.
... it doesn't look anything like the Hulk.
... obviously.
If someone who can draw the Hulk does
If I (who can't draw for shit), draw a picture that only I know was intended to look like the Hulk, and then sell that 'non-likeness' under the name 'Kluh', chances are I will NEVER be convicted of copyright
I am not justifying the suit for Marvel here, fanboy. I am simpy stating the parent is blatently wrong.
CoH provided a finite set of options to the masses for character creation. They do not own copyright on all the combinations therein
Your missing the point ... the original post implied the equality of suing Bic for drawing charcters similar to Wolverine and the Hulk. In that case you are correct in asking the question "So who is violating the copyright?" With a Bic I can draw whatever is in my brain (feasibly, although not well); an unending and infinite set of possibilities.
.. hardly ever do you see a comic book rip-off ... but the mechanics are there ... and they are around. I suppose you could still argue "who is violating the copyright..." but the original analogy is wrong.
CoH, however, certainly provides mechanics for the production of a finite set of character combinations. I to have logged a few hundred hours in CoH and I agree with you
Really? I am pretty sure I couldn't draw Wolverine or Hulk even with a Bic ... I could easily make their likeness in CoH though.
I never understood this. From opening day of SWG I NEVER wanted to be a Jedi. I still don't. You are right however, it is a dilemma for the masses. Perhaps if they would have mixed there servers a bit ... some with 10 max Jedi ... some with unlimited Jedi, etc. *shrug*
Wait a week ... there will be another scheme ... err, marketing method ... to sucker those people out to your site. :)
Dating tips or free iPods. Free iPods seem to draw them all out. ;)
WOW! I am going to order through your link right now!!! I really want support you!!! I would have mod'd you up if I had mod points!
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justinshoreco-20 That is bullshit, man.
That one I don't have ... sorry.
Yesterday.
... just yesterday, the 8th.
I don't see an article regarding Fedora Core 3 from the 7th
Yes, it did. It was on the main page yesterday.
Same here. All of my extensions are working beautifully too.
Dictionary.com states:
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
I would say that the X-Files qualify as SF.