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The Economist on The Rise of Linux

nickco3 writes "The Economist is telling the business world that Linux is a worthy adversay to Windows and Unix. It is free, runs on almost any hardware, and generally more secure than Windows As result it is dividing the industry into winners that offer Linux (e.g. IBM and HP), and losers that don't, (e.g. Microsoft). Sun is probably doomed."

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  1. Re:as much as i like the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the article, if you read it, did not say that Microsoft was losing. Rather, it said that M$ would come out less of a winner.

    The poster of the root article needs to read the article. Doh.

  2. Re:as much as i like the by pVoid · · Score: 3, Informative
    Windows NT's entire IO system has always been asynchronous if you want it to. And it's architecturally very sound and useful.

    You aren't going to get an answer here on /. that will be sufficient for you (and if you expect one, you are just a troller/flamer)... the best way to know is to use it a bit.

    A good example of why I love it so much is that *every* object in the Kernel is synchronizable. You can wait on a file just like you can wait on a thread, process, or mutex. Once you get used to the architecture, it's very sweet.

  3. Re:Sun is NOT probably doomed by christophersaul · · Score: 2, Informative

    Solaris is indeed an important differentiator, but the hardware's also extremely important. How many Intel systems scale as well? None. SPARC's never been the leader in cpu benchmarks, that's true, but Sun have consistently produced balanced systems that perform well when running applications rather than cpu benchmarks. If just fast cpus were important, we'd all be using Alphas.

    Sun's market share in Unix systems grew last year, where HP and IBM sank. HP and IBM certainly do not 'wipe' Sun at this level, either technically or financially. The low end Sun systems are competitively priced and the storage is excellent, so what's the problem exactly?

    I'm confused as to why everyone on Slashdot concentrates on irrelevant cpu benchmarks and is so down on Sun at the moment.

  4. Re:News Flash: Linux still not ready for the deskt by obsidian+head · · Score: 2, Informative
    OT: Your current sig:
    "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." - Norman Schwarzkopf
    is contradicted by a well-known urban legends site.
  5. Ha! It didn't come from the article by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    They said, in a fine example of shades of gray, that rather than make M$ a loser, Linux will make them less of a winner.

    The fact that a slashdot poster can make such a bold (and stupid) statement is not surprising at all.

  6. Re:as much as i like the by pVoid · · Score: 2, Informative
    "every thread has its own private message queue"

    Threads do not have message queues foo. Windows have message queues... And the queue is associated with the thread that created it, but that's about it.

    PS. A window is neither a process, nor a thread. It's a window.

    PPS. I wouldn't trust your declaration of inferiority based on the fact that you didn't know the above to be true...

  7. Re:A Lesser Form of Unix by sql*kitten · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know much about Solaris, so I'd like to ask you guys out there. What makes Linux less capable? What does Solaris do that Linux can't do (at least well enough)? Just wondering.

    Well, scalability is one major thing. Linux struggles with more than 4 CPUs and more than 4G of memory; Solaris handles hundreds of CPUs and a terabyte of RAM. Linux lacks the manageability of system resources offered by Solaris 9, which allows system resources to be prioritized for different tasks, with a guaranteed minimum available. And even if Linux could do this, it doesn't run on hardware than can be dynamically partitioned, unless it runs as a guest on z/OS, and in that case it's z/OS doing the work. Tight integration with the underlying hardware is another advantage for Sun; they know precisely every component in every system that Solaris runs on, because they designed and built it, so there are never compatibility issues. Solaris' high-performance, high-reliability filesystems are proven, not just betas (yes XFS is also proven, but in IRIX not Linux). Speaking of filesystems, Solaris has ACLs, whereas Linux just has the relatively crude user-group model. Linux doesn't have remote shared memory or IP multipathing (IIRC).

  8. Re:Sun is NOT probably doomed by pilybaby · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... wider bus, lights out management, proper console connection, Solaris stack and future plans for dual core processors and N1. Performance wise, at the low end Sun systems might struggle against x86 but they come with a whole lot more. This make them extreamly nice from a sys admin point of view that makes them excellent systems.

  9. Re:as much as i like the by VZ · · Score: 3, Informative
    > Threads do not have message queues

    Have you ever programmed under Win32? This is simply false. Read the MSDN docs for PostThreadMessage() function:

    The PostThreadMessage function posts a message to the message queue of the specified thread

    ...

    Messages sent by PostThreadMessage are not associated with a window.

  10. Re:Apache a CLONE?? by MyHair · · Score: 2, Informative

    I give up. What is Apache a clone of?

    IIRC, Apache started off as a clone of NCSA httpd. I can't find the reference (I thought it was in the config file or man page, but no), but I think they wanted identical functionality and config files at first.

    Of course it has grown into so much more now.

  11. Re:as much as i like the by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Funny you should mention that: I've been noticing quite a few Linux/Mandrake/Red Hat serial number/crack files on Overnet recently. I downloaded one out of curiousity and found that it was just an executable that installed your typical spyware etc.