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Microsoft Also Wants Universal Music?

rampant mac writes "An article over at the New York Post is reporting Microsoft has expressed interest in buying Vivendi's Universal Music Group, setting up a possible bidding war between the software maker and rival Apple Computer, according to sources familiar with the matter. Microsoft's interest is said to be at the level of "poking around, kicking the tires," but it has indeed had conversations with Vivendi executives about buying the music division, sources said." Here is a story from a few days ago about Apple and Universal.

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  1. Damn by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Usually it takes M$ a few years to copy what Apple has done. So much for my pipe dream of Apple owning a record company and making it respectable...

    1. Re:Damn by abhisarda · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you recall correctly, then Vivendi itself asked Jobs to take up a minority share in Universal. Why? Because Steve's music subscription plan hit a sweet note with Vivendi executives. Steve might be in talks to buy Universal and that is a good thing.
      About Microsoft, they have about 45 billion in liquid assets and they can afford to run the competitors out of business. Note that Vivendi has put up Universal on the block. For Microsoft to buy it, it will have to calm the anti-trust flames that will be stoked on both sides of the Atlantic. Also remember that the anti-monopoly enforcers in the EU have not yet announced the punishment for MS. It will be coming in the next few months and MS's lawyers will be advising that bidding for Universal now won't make things easier for them.
      But, if MS is really determined to get Universal then it might take a year to complete the deal.
      One thing, I will keep my fingers crossed that this does'nt go through.

    2. Re:Damn by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With the current economy, I'd rather see MS buy Vivendi.

      Then they lose 6-7 billion down a hole of crappy music and Apple keeps it's money in the bank.

  2. What MS could do. by SocialWorm · · Score: 5, Interesting
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    It seems like everyone wants to buy Universal.


    This could really give MS quite a bit of leverage if it ever needed it - "Upgrade now, get 50 free songs for Windows Media Player" or some such thing. I could possibly even be tied in to some future service like X-Box live.

    It's obvious and clever at the same time.

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  3. Riiight by 17028 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's called driving up the price for your competitor.

  4. Anti-Trust Implications by manly_15 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be my guess that both Apple and Microsoft would want to do the same thing - use music to promote and sell their products. However, if Microsoft bought Vivendi Music, would that not somehow be in violation of the anti-trust rulings? Couldn't Microsoft use their monopoly on desktop OS's to create a monopoly in legal music downloading?

    I might be completely wrong, but somehow the prospect of Microsoft owning such a big label seems much scarier than Apple doing the same thing.

  5. This is a surprise? by deanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, Microsoft seems to think that ANY device with any computational capabilities at all for the mass market is *theirs*.

    Is it any surpise that they'd want to get into this too? Imagine if that happened? You thought the RIAA was bad....hoo boy, you ain't seen nothing yet.

  6. just one more step to world domination by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    is there anything microsoft isn't in? they are beginning to reach pokemon status in saturation, all they need to do now is have pasta noodles shaped like the m$ symbol.

  7. My favorite line from the article... by Surlyboi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "For some in the beleaguered music industry - which has seen compact disc sales plummet in recent years due to rampant piracy"

    Couldn't also be the fact that CDs are still damn
    expensive and the recent mainstream music scene has
    sucked, could it? Nah, let's blame the pirates!

    Still in all, how interested would MS have been if
    L'il Stevie hadn't made public his intent to hook up
    with a Universal?

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  8. What about the music? by pkunzipper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If they actually buy the company, I'm interested in seeing what stance they will take in the fight against p2p networks and media company's current fight against free sharing of media, knowing M$ can be very rough in the courts.

  9. Interference by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Obviously, MS isn't really interrested in buying Universal, but its good buisness to make sure that your competitors have a hard time pulling their deals.

    MS makes a bid, forces apple to hike up their bid. In the end, MS doesn't buy anything and apple had to spend way more to get what they wanted, wich hurts them and therefore indirectly helps MS.

    Is tricky, its devious, its evil...its Microsoft at its best.

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  10. Re:Universal artists? by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look at UM's webpage, there's a (huge) list : Universal Music Group Artists.

  11. Damm by quantaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was worried about this when I saw the /. story a couple days ago but didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to give M$ any ideas myself. But I guess they read the /. story too and got the idea anyways. If only Pudge hadn't posted the story M$ would never have found out and Apple would have gotten away with it.
    DAMM YOU ?> !!!!

    (?> == /. in capitals)

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  12. good ! by selderrr · · Score: 4, Funny

    this means that we'll keep on getting music for free ! I can not see MS create a safe, closed system being hacked in less than a month.

  13. Apple's new strategy by artemis67 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...start rumors of their interest in buying out insanely large and bloated corporations, then sit back and laugh while the mindless paranoids at Microsoft fall over themselves to beat Apple to the punch, depleting their coffers.

  14. Fine. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Falling Out The Windows, Landing In The .NET - The Allchin Brothers (country, classic rock)

    My Baby's Givin' Me The Blues - Bluescreen Traveler (blues, contemporary)

    Heaven's Openin' Up For Me - Bill 'Pearly' Gates (gospel, contemporary)

    Free is Just Another Word For Nothing Left To Lose (Linux sucks) - Janis Joplin (remixes, classic rock)
    Kids these days. Don't even bother doing their own work.

  15. Re:Crap by Chicane-UK · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well that rules out Microsoft... ;)

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  16. This is about using software to sell hardware by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I can't believe no one has pointed this out. Apple is not doing this to help prevent copying - quite the opposite.

    With a power house like Universal, Window's media and it's copy protection is dead.

    Go Apple! Free music for everyone!

  17. Overheard somewhere in Redmond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hey look, someone's trying to make money again."

    "Do they use, sell or manufacture computers?"

    "Yep."

    "Stop them. I don't care what it costs."

  18. Part of a Larger Battle by Michael_Burton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the day that Slashdot ran the story about Apple buying Universal Music, there were also stories about Microsoft authorizing a port of Windows Media technology for embedded Linux [slashdot.org] and high-definition DVD [slashdot.org] at standard DVD bitrates using Microsoft-proprietary technology.

    It's all part of the same story. The world is moving toward all-digital media formats. Microsoft wants all those formats to be Microsoft-owned. They sign up media producers with promises of copy control, pay-per-view and other DRM features. Already, some CDs have been released crippled for use on non-Windows computers (and some CD players).

    I'm guessing someone at Apple sees a possible future in which new music won't play on any computer not running Windows. If all the major music companies sign on to lock down their content with MS technology, consumers may believe they have no choice but to stay "inside the lines." If Universal Music doesn't sign on to locked-down content, consumers probably won't tolerate severe restrictions from other content providers.

    Microsoft makes some good stuff. But I'm hoping that we don't wind up in an all-Microsoft world.

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