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NASA Wires Chips With Nanotubes

carstene writes "SpaceDaily reports that NASA has come up with a way to wire microchips with nanotubes instead of copper interconnects. Aparently this could keep Moore's law a reality well into the next decade."

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  1. NASA vs. Intel by traskjd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just wondering - but how much would NASA have spent to find this out? I mean It's common to see companies like IBM come up with stuff that is cool like this (like the copper idea a few years back). It seems to me that Intel doesn't actually come up with too many new ideas? (I mean sure there chips become faster but not amazing new things).

    I could be wrong. Has Intel done anything this cool? Surely they would spend more money on R&D for processors (I would assume NASA spends more on Space?)

    any info about this would be much appreciated.

    1. Re:NASA vs. Intel by Slowping · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Intel has always held a very conservative line regarding research into far-out new technologies. The vast majority of Intel's research money goes into fab/mount/production technologies.

      For stuff like nano-tubes and quantum computing, Intel usually helps fund academia to let them take the high-risk endeavors. And then take the benefits as they are produced.

      I'm not sure what Intel's current plan is now, but it seems that they're putting more R&D dollars into the mobile/ubiquitous computing market, to try and branch out their chip options, instead of being forever racing against Moore's Law.

      Intel-research.net, for some info on Intel and partnerships with academia on this type of research.

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  2. Re:royalties by bcwalrus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can they patent something created using your tax dollars?

  3. Re:NanoTubes... by Muhammar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Some Nanotubes are excellent conductors and some are poor conductors - depends on the tube type. So far it has proven difficult to grow only one kind of tube.

    The way out may be a redundancy - several tubes doing the same function.
    Maybe they can use them in vertical connections - for stacking chips up - one onto another, with nanotubes connecting the layers. But the overheating of such compact assemblies would be problem.

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  4. "only benefit the "Power User" community" by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ahem...

    People saying "unless you are a gamer home computers are more than fast enough now for what we want (internet/email/minor word processing) " are forgetting that ...

    1 - Starting Word 2024 will require 1.5 TeraFlops because every key you strike will require the calculation of two 8192 bytes key and the exchange of 1024 security tokens / sec, and we have to get ready to cope with that

    2 - My old and faithfull Dual PIII 1Ghz, that was once considered the fastest rig on my block is now just a piece of interesting junk that still allows me to play Quake and encode divxs at the same time, and LOTS of you just dream about doing it for real

    3 - it's not because i'm not a basic luser that immediatly jump categories and becomes a Power User. And if you think a softcore gamer or a hardcore Quaker is a "Power User", you never saw a real 16 CPU machine being "stability tested" for a round or ten of Quake @1024 fps, or the fastest Divx encode ever (11 minutes 8p)...

    4 - "internet/email/minor word processing" can be achieved since 486 DX2 66 with no problem and little fuss... I mean my mail Server/Firewall/Ftp/ Webserver/PDC is a Pentium 133 and it serves the need of 10 ppl...So stop complaining when we allow you the use of a 2 Ghz computer just so you can play Freecell @ 25 fps 8p

    Would be BOFH, hoping for Admin job...

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  5. Re:NanoTubes... by Compuser · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, it seems they are using multi-wall nanotubes
    with rather large number of shells. Then you can
    pass enough current to blow out all semiconducting
    shells and get a metallic conductor. I don't
    know if they use this trick but that's what IBM
    people have done a while back.
    The real trick is positioning these nanotubes
    and contacting them. I wonder what they do to
    assure good electrical contact. Typically your
    contacts will be the first to blow out and the
    thing to limit electronic mobility. Plus
    encasing the nanotubes in silica sounds like a
    bad idea because these suckers are really
    sensitive to external perturbations and may not
    conduct as well under external stress.

  6. Re:Why is NASA doing this? by WegianWarrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Faster, smaller, lighter computers are usefull for spacetravel. Just because they sendt a man to the moon with an onboard computer with less calculating power than a cheap pocket calculator and a weight of about 70 lbs (in addition to the 17.5 lbs DSKY) don't means that we should be satisfied with that sort of perfomance in the future.

    BTW, more info on the Apollo guidance computer can be found at "One Giant Leap: The Apollo Guidance Computer" for those interested.

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  7. Are they small enough? by stevesliva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, perhaps they promise less resistance than copper interconnect of the same size, but isn't a diameter of 100nm actually a bit large? Can nanotubes shrink, or is their diameter a chemical requirement? According to the International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors, copper wiring pitch should now in 2003 already be 245nm. So with 50% spacing between those nanotubes, you're not even talking a 2x improvement in size over current interconnect. What if the things are too big to be used as interconnect for those 35nm gates we're supposed to see in 2007?

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