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Apple In-Store Software Burning

jarrettwold2002 writes "This seems to have escaped notice, however it's fairly significant. Apple has partnered up with CompUSA to offer in store electronic software distribution. According to the site it takes about four minutes from purchase to burn. It's bundled inside a dvd case, with color packaging."

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  1. First dupe complaint? by Otter · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This seems to have escaped notice...

    Except here. Still, it's worth mentioning that it's up and there's a site to check out.

  2. Been there... by BlakeGarretson · · Score: 0, Redundant
  3. Now that everyone has pointed out that it's a dupe by Randolpho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... we can get on with the discussion. I missed the first article, so I get to comment on this one, and my comment is this:

    Potentially a great way for small-time developers to get their software to the masses. It reduces or even totally eliminates the need for a publisher. There are no upfront costs, you just pay a portion of your sale to Apple / CompUSA.

    Daddy like. :)

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  4. great idea, except.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you get the contract from these jokers, the developer only makes 40%. So if you write software and have them deliver it this way you get around $12 on a $30 product. Think about it.

    1. Re:great idea, except.. by torinth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As compared to? Have you looked into getting placed on a shelf instead? I guess you'll make a lesser percentage than if you took direct orders on your website - but people don't go to your website like they do CompUSA.

      -Andrew

    2. Re:great idea, except.. by Randolpho · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Think about it? This eliminates the overhead involved in *publishing* the software. You know.. burning onto CD, packaging, manuals (everyone loves manuals), shipping. Add to that the fact that in order to sell packaged software you have to make sure it gets *everywhere* which means that you loose publishing costs on software that doesn't get bought. I think in the end, it'll wash out to less expense for everyone involved. Publishing costs are minimized, and indeed eaten by the distributor, who gets to save on internal shipping costs and shelfspace, and there is no loss for unsold product because you make the product to order.

      It's a damn good system, and I'm just sorry I didn't think it up and patent it before Apple/CompUSA did. :)

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  5. Three words: by awtbfb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Music from Universal

    1. Re:Three words: by Raskolnk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Being able to get music legally burned directly from the source would be great. I hope this is a preparation step for getting this type of on demand publishing working. If the Universal deal works out (not that I'm betting it will), this would make a lot of sense for Apple. However, the real benefit would be in making available rare and out of print material. I doubt such material is available digitally at all. Probably tens of thousands of masters on various types of media filed away in various basements across the company. If that's the case, it would be a huge effort to get it all prepared, but I think it'd be a great investment. I'm guessing though that for the first while it would be a selection of a small number of albums that are most popular on the charts. In that case, there is no reason to have an on demand publishing mechanism.

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  6. um by jjshoe · · Score: 1, Informative

    umm if it went un-noticed then what's this?

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    1. Re:um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was deja-vu. There is even a search feature on the homepage the editors don't use.

    2. Re:um by jjshoe · · Score: 1

      well i must say, if i search for "methane" i dont get the story on the methane turned into money deal, but if i search for cow, it comes up... i think they should go back to using google for their search tool.. because whatever they are using now sucks

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  7. Good Software Served Fast by jpsst34 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mmmmm. Software To Go! Can I get fries with that?

    Will this include the option to biggie-size your Tonka game's liscense to, say, 100 users for just 39 cents more?

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  8. Cassettes... by rasteri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember they used to do this kind of thing with Data Cassettes back when the C64 et al were popular. Ah.... memories....

    1. Re:Cassettes... by byolinux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I too remember this...

      A popular system here in the UK was EDOS (Electronic Distribution of Software) - I remember the tapes having a skull/crossbones on them, and a handwritten label...

      Mmmm.

  9. Inferior!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What!

    How will this replace the Copy-from-store-machine-to-ipod distribution model that Apple already has in place!

    1. Re:Inferior!!! by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

      I'm just curious if this still works....Do they have he machines locked down more now or something?

      I'd like to have keynote :)

    2. Re:Inferior!!! by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hopefully, they don't stick extra commercial software on their demo machines anymore, which they shouldn't have done in the first place. Who the heck put $500 copies of MS-Office on the Macs to steal?

      Back in '98 or so, when I was working at OfficeMax and they still sold Performas, I put the shareware screen saver Eclipse on the main Performa, and had it display screen captures of Maelstrom, Aperion, Escape Velocity, Warcraft II, and established a password. This showed off some of the fun games you could play, while keeping the customers off the machine so they wouldn't mess anything up. I think more retail stores should try something like that.

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    3. Re:Inferior!!! by MoneyT · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The whole idea though being that you can actualy play with the computers at the apple store and actualy try the products and how they handle doing the things you normaly do. You know, treating your customer like a customer and not a criminal.

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    4. Re:Inferior!!! by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      True, they can do that there. Most retail stores don't, and some used to not maintain them at all. At the Apple Store, they do a complete restore on every Mac in the store, every night.

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    5. Re:Inferior!!! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Wait - treating customers like criminals is intrinsic to the computer business. Take, for example... Fry's!

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  10. Apple partners with an abusive company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's unfortunate that Apple picked a company with whom to partner that is so aggressive toward its customers. For example, CompUSA often doesn't answer the telephone. It's usually necessary to fight to get rebates. CompUSA often advertises a sale when they have a very limited quantity available at the sale price. Does Apple want a bad reputation?

    1. Re:Apple partners with an abusive company? by dbrutus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, they just want distribution which is hard enough to get. At least with CompUSA it's *possible* to get Mac software. Try doing that at Best Buy or Circuit City and they just look at you funny. Anything that they carry that's useful to you is strictly an accident (ie they stock a Windows software title and the mac version comes in the same box).

      With this particular method, you end up with a lot of titles available in very little square footage (ie low cost of distribution) and if they require you to swipe a credit card before they burn the title (which would be a smart move) you quite possibly would be out of there *faster* than if you just yanked a box off the shelf and waited in line.

    2. Re:Apple partners with an abusive company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh man, you think it's bad now.

      "I put in my credit card, paid $500 for photoshop and the disc didn't come out!!"

      And wait until the college kids come in and start trying to rock the machine to get free coca cola.... err free software.

    3. Re:Apple partners with an abusive company? by Basehart · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Apple are just using CompUSA like musicians use record companies these days, as marketing devices.

  11. Re:Hrm Can I blame it on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The freedom fries have gone to your buddies heads.

  12. Re:Now that everyone has pointed out that it's a d by derch · · Score: 1

    Ummm.... We've had a "great way for small-time developers to get their software to the masses" which "totally eliminates the need for a publisher" and has almost "no upfront costs" for over a decade.

    It's called the Internet.

    (Sorry, it was just too easy. I know, I know, there are apps that are too big to realistically be downloaded by most people, and this greatly increases the number of Mac titles "on the shelf" in your average CompUSA.)

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  14. with all the hullabaloo by BortQ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm, on the off chance that Apple actually bought Universal music, this would be a ready-made distribution channel for letting users make their own mix CDs.

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  15. Specific details on Software-to-go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The posts in this thread are a bit off. This isn't an Apple venture, nor is it
    a Compusa venture. Software-to-go is an independent company that has
    struck a deal to put these kiosks in Compusa stores. They've brought Apple
    in on it to help get more products available in the system. We're going to use
    them, it's actually very nice (Software-to-go sent me a sample).

    Depending on the size of the store, the plan is to have a couple kiosks in
    the PC section and one in the Mac section of each Compusa. The customer
    browses the kiosk, picks a product they would like to purchase and out pops
    a receipt. When they go to the checkout and pay for the item, one of several
    output stations cuts a CD, prints it with graphics and also prints out a cover
    insert and an internal insert. The attendee assembles the pieces into a
    standard DVD-type package and gives it to the customer. That's supposed
    to take less than 5 minutes. If demand is high enough, they will install more
    cutting stations in the store. The developer delivers a CD image to Software-
    to-go and they turn it into a disk image in their format.

    The system handles Win, Mac, and Linux software, there's really no dependance
    on platform. I can't disclose pricing because of NDA but you can contact softwaretogo.com
    to get details. They seem very nice and quite competent. It's a well thought
    out system and it's got a good chance of doing well. It's a great way of
    getting a boxed version of software from small developers into the hands
    of Compusa customers, which in the past has been all but impossible unless
    you belong to the publisher oligarchy.

    And forget about downloading music products via this system. It's not what
    they are concentrating on right now. Maybe if this takes off, we'll see it in
    the future. Again, this project has little to to with Apple specifically.

  16. What!?! by MacOS_Rules · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahhhh! Put it out! Put it out! The software is _burning_! :)

    (Or at least that's what I initially thought it meant---silly technobable, burning is for 1337-h4x0rs.)

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  17. One problem if this catches on... by Lazyhound · · Score: 1


    ...no excess copies to liquidate through the bargain bin.

  18. Re:Now that everyone has pointed out that it's a d by ajw1976 · · Score: 1

    What about documentation? What about user's manuals?

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  19. Games by _iris · · Score: 1

    I know games are less than abundant on the Mac, but I wonder what game publishers think of this. I see this getting popular. Publisher's release-to-sale time is cut dramatically. Stores maximize floor-space utilitzation and only "ship" the number of units truely needed. I can only assume this will move into the PC arena if it is executed successfully.

    If this happens, will these burn-on-demand systems offer CD copy protection? If so, which technologies? Who will pay the licensing for the copy protection technology? If not, will game publishers participate? I can't remember the last time I bought a PC game without copy protection.

  20. Re:Now that everyone has pointed out that it's a d by Randolpho · · Score: 1

    Excellent point. Perhaps they have a kinkos on-site to do those up too. ;)

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  21. Abusive? Mostly just incompetent. by ianscot · · Score: 1
    CompUSA isn't a pleasure, but basically all the big box stores are about the same for customer service. Try calling Best Buy and getting an answer. They all use "loss leaders" with limited stock to get people in the door. You get better customer service from sites online, really.

    Apple's had a relationship with CompUSA for years now where CompUSA keeps a conspicuous Mac section open, so this is the natural place for something like this to happen. There's nothing new about the connection.

    (And judging by another post, this isn't Apple only, it's more of a third-party vendor that sold the approach to CompUSA for Mac and Windows titles.)

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  22. Vending machines aren't just for soda anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Slightly OT, but you'll be seeing a lot more of this kind of stuff in the future. There's a lot of
    companies discussing distribution and rental kiosks for products such as software, dvds, music,
    personal hygene products, etc.

    Don't be surprised when you see something like this at your local fast food joint or grocery store.