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Bitstream/Gnome Release Vera Font Family

bluephone writes "Gnome and Bitstream have released the final version of the Vera font family. Go get it, install them, and enjoy! They work for Windows and Mac users too!" Our earlier story.

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  1. heres some images of vera by hfastedge · · Score: 4, Informative

    I did a little googlage:

    http://www.bitstream.com/categories/products/fon ts /vera/

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    1. Re:heres some images of vera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      And clickable. You know, it's not _that_ hard, and it helps a lot - particularly with these long links that introduce spaces in plain text...

  2. Re:Windows port? by dorward · · Score: 4, Informative

    So will these fonts become available for Windows?

    Now. Download, extract the tarball, drop the ttfs into your fonts directory.

  3. Here's slashdot in Bitstream Vera Serif by Maxlor · · Score: 4, Informative
  4. Screenshot. by 13Echo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a screenshot of it on my machine, with OpenOffice.org.

    Vera.

    It's a nice font set to start from. I hope that the community can use it to create a unicode version.

  5. Re:I'm obviously retarded by ebingo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah you're retarded :)
    Here's a link.

  6. Re:Windows port? by 13Echo · · Score: 4, Informative

    It should be noted that the Vera font sets use very minimal delta hinting, as the documentation states. They are designed with the future of Freetype in mind, and traditional OSX and Windows (Cleartype) may not render them as nicely as they would on a standard Unix/Linux machine. Don't even think about using them without antialiasing, because the glyphs wil render horibly. ;)

    That said, in a few years, when everyone is on LCD displays and are using subpixel hinting, these fonts will look their absolute finest. Freetype seems to be gearing for the future, and may soon be the best looking antialiasing library on any platform.

  7. Re:open/free font editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try pfaedit. The user interface is rather spartan but it is very powerful.

  8. Re:I'm obviously retarded by 13Echo · · Score: 5, Informative

    It isn't a Verdana clone. There are a total of 10 fonts making for four sets. There are different types; serif, sans, and mono. Some look like a Times set. Some look like an Arial set. Some look similar to Verdana.

  9. Re:work with windows and macintosh.... by ACK!! · · Score: 4, Informative

    XFree86 --

    Download fonts.

    Drop them onto desktop.

    Use KDE's font installer to add them to your list of fonts.

    Alternately for the Redhat8 or 9 set simply copy them into their .fonts dir.

    Silly people.

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  10. Re:copyright, etc by sh4de · · Score: 4, Informative

    Copyright laws are strange in this respect. You can't copyright the look of your font, just its name. More information here.

    Type foundries have (ab)used this oversight for decades, producing clones of other foundries' popular fonts, with different names.

    That's why there's Swiss from Bitstream and Arial from Monotype, both Linotype Helvetica clones, Book Antiqua from Monotype, a Linotype Palatino clone, and hundreds of others.

  11. Finally, a decent monospaced font! by zsazsa · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just installed these on my Windows machine. The monospace font is excellent. Until now I haven't seen a decent TTF monospace font that was properly hinted to keep it from looking horrible at 9pt, but still nice and smooth at large sizes.

    The Lucida Sans monospace font that came with Windows pales in comparison to Vera Sans Mono, even though the Lucida family was supposedly designed with bitmap screens in mind.

  12. Mandrake Rocks by Christianfreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have Mandrake, untar the directory somewhere

    click 'Mandrake Control Center'
    System-> Fonts-> Advanced

    Click add, select the directory, close the Add window. Click install list. Voila! New fonts no messing with X configs or even restarting it.

  13. Re:I'm obviously retarded by insin · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've made it my default font in Phoenix and it's a lot smoother than Verdana. I find it to be much easier on the eye and more pleasant to read.

    Here's a comparison (Verdana above, Vera below):
    Verdana and Vera

  14. Re:.otf by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Informative

    why no opentype? wasnt that meant to be the next big thing?

    Yes, I thought so as well...

    TrueType info, OpenType info, TrueType vs OpenType FAQ.

    The TrueType format was made by Apple. The OpenType format is an extension to TTF, adding support for PostScript font data and designed by Microsoft and Adobe with the following features:

    - broader multi-platform support
    - better support for international character sets
    - better protection for font data
    - smaller file sizes to make font distribution more efficient
    - broader support for advanced typographic control

    This sounds good, but remember MS was part of the design group and this is MS pages. I found this in the FAQ to look fishy in particular:

    Q What does the OpenType initiative mean to Adobe's font business?

    A The OpenType initiative represents a new opportunity for Adobe to expand its font business into the Windows market because Type 1 fonts will now work out of the box on all Windows systems. In addition, because Adobe will license TrueType technology, it will now be able to develop and market TrueType fonts.

    So this could've been a "standard" created by Microsoft and not surprisingly supported by Adobe for the reasons in the FAQ entry I quote above. If that was the major reason for Adobe to support it, it looks more like MS did this "standard" on their own, hoping several others to license it and Adobe simply being an early adopter. I have no idea if this is as properly standardized as TrueType, or if it's more like an "Microsoft extension" which could explain why Bitstream/Gnome didn't want to support it.

    Here's another FAQ entry:

    Q What is being proposed to the World Wide Web Consortium?

    A Adobe and Microsoft together will submit a proposal for Web page font embedding using OpenType to the W3C's working group on style sheets. --snip -- Ultimately we hope that this proposal, or a modified version of it, will be endorsed by the W3C as the standard way to use fonts on the Web.

    The FAQ was never updated to say if W3C did indeed decide to endorse it as a standard for font embedding. If W3C instead decided to go for the much more common TTF format, thinking it should suffice, then that would be yet another reason to not use OpenType fonts.

    Perhaps someone else has more insight into Bitstream's reasons not to use OpenType?

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  15. Re:Redhat 9 by CommandNotFound · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pixie dust. Or, more accurately, the xft2 library which renders the fonts. RH8.0 used it, but the Mozilla RH8 shipped with was not compiled against the library unless you compiled it yourself or downloaded the _rh8_xft mozilla rpms. I had no idea how much the font renderer mattered before RH8... pretty much any font looks good onscreen with xft + AA.

    Yes, it is quite impressive, especially considering that without anti-aliasing the Luxi fonts don't look that impressive. This is the first system besides a Mac that I've been able to use anti-aliased fonts and not get a headache or annoyed. I much prefer the RH fonts to my XP box at work, which I set to disable AA below about 14 points because the clarity suffers IMO.

  16. Re:Redhat 9 by KeyserDK · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is not Xft that renders fonts. It's the freetype lib. Xft is a client side API that uses fontconfig to select fonts. If you update your freetype lib to 2.1.4 you will probably see a few more enhancements.

    Instead you should really appreciate the amazing work that has been done by the freetype project. Especially David Turner has been cranking out algorithms to make your linux desktop look nice with AA fonts, even without the patented hinter.

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  17. Re:Sorry for being dumb by GauteL · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh.. I'm sorry, but fonts are a HUGE amount of work. Much more than you or the original poster realize. TTF-fonts is much more than just creating a few bitmaps, since they have to scale.

    They have to be hinted to make sure they scale perfectly (which is incredibly hard).

    Creating funky and flashy fonts are mostly much easier than creating very readable fonts. Microsoft paid one of the best font designers to create Verdana and Georgia (actually he was regarded as THE best), and if I remember correctly it took him at least a year.

  18. Re:Italics? by jg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Jim would of course prefer to have the
    time to build serif italic faces; but the
    artificial obliqing (for most, but not all
    people) is preferable than having the
    faces indistinguisable or choosing a different
    family.

    He did say if he somehow got the opportunity,
    he'd build them at the angle we use in fontconfig
    by default (I think it is 10degrees).

    I believe you can tell fontconfig not to use the
    artificial obliquing if you want to.
    - Jim