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State "Communication Services" Laws Analyzed

87C751 writes "There has already been some discussion about Michigan and other states implementing new laws to protect "communication services", with results that could ban NAT, VPNs and even email encryption. Mike Godwin, of EFF fame, has looked into this subject a bit deeper, and makes a frightening observation. Among other things, this PDF report draws an ugly conclusion: As written, these "mini-DMCA" acts change the legislative focus radically, such that all technology that is not expressly permitted by a communications provider will be prohibited. Is this the backdoor maneuver that will turn the net into television once and for all?"

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  1. Free Joe by jon787 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    X(7): A program for managing terminal windows. See also screen(1).
  2. MOD PARENT UP (amusing) by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    For those who aren't in the know on this bit of history, (from http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/)

    I. The Basics
    1. What is Godwin's Law?

    Godwin's Law is a natural law of Usenet named after Mike Godwin
    (godwin@eff.org) concerning Usenet "discussions". It reads, according to
    the Jargon File:

    As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
    involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

    2. What does it mean?

    It pretty much means exactly what it says - as a Usenet thread
    goes on, the chances of somebody or something being compared to a Nazi
    approach one.

    3. Yes, but what does it *mean*?

    Aah, now *there's* the real question.

    In case your head has been buried in the sand for the last sixty
    years or so, the Nazis were a German political party lead by Adolf Hitler
    that slaughtered upwards of ten-million people that didn't meet their
    standards of "ethnic purity" and set off to conquer Europe and the world
    in World War II. They are generally considered the most evil group of
    people to live in modern times, and to compare something or someone to
    them is usually considered the gravest insult imaginable.

    As a Usenet discussion gets longer it tends to get more heated; as
    more heat enters the discussion, tensions get higher and people start to
    insult each other over anything they can think of. Godwin's Law merely
    notes that, eventually, those tensions eventually cause someone to find
    the worst insults that come to mind - which will almost always include a
    Nazi comparison.

    4. That still doesn't answer my question. What does it *MEAN*?

    The Law is generally used on Usenet as an indicator of whether a
    thread has gone on too long, who's playing fair and who's just slinging
    mud, and who finally gets to "win" the discussion. It has, over time,
    become the closest thing to an impartial moderator that Usenet can get.

    So, what this means in practical terms:

    o If someone brings up Nazis in general conversation when it
    wasn't necessary or germane without it necessarily being an
    insult, it's probably about time for the thread to end.
    o If someone brings up Nazis in general conversation when it
    was vaguely related but is basically being used as an insult,
    the speaker can be considered to be flaming and not debating.
    o If someone brings up Nazis in any conversation that has been
    going on too long for one of the parties, it can be used as
    a fair excuse to end the thread and declare victory for the
    other side.

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  3. Refresh my memory, plz (was :IN FASCIST USA) by RLiegh · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...and this is different from socialist europe in what way again?

  4. Re:A Way Out? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I saw a rail map once of northeastern LP of Michigan, it staggered the mind how much rail used to be up in that sparsely populated area.

    Yes. It was built to carry iron ore from the Mesabi Range. It was often cheaper to distribute the raw ore to the steel mills in Ohio and Pennsylvania via rail after a short boat ride accross upper Lake Michigan/Lake Huron rather than making the long barge journey down the Great Lakes.

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