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Open Source Experiment Management Software?

Alea asks: "I do a lot of empirical computer science, running new algorithms on hundreds of datasets, trying many combinations of parameters, and with several versions of many pieces of software. Keeping track of these experiments is turning into a nightmare and I spend an unreasonable amount of time writing code to smooth the way. Rather than investing this effort over and over again, I have been toying with writing a framework to manage everything, but don't want to reinvent the wheel. I can find commercial solutions (often specific to a particular domain) but does anyone know of an open source effort? Failing that, does anyone have any thoughts on such a beast?"

"The features I would want would be:

  • management of all details of an experiment, including parameter sets, datasets, and the resulting data
  • ability to "execute" experiments and report their status
  • an API for obtaining parameter values and writing out results (available to multiple languages)
  • additionally (alternately?) a standard format for transferring data (XDF might be good)
  • ability to extract selected results from experimental data
  • ability to add notes
  • ability to differentiate versions of software
In my dreamworld, it would also (via plugin architecture?) provide these:
  • automatically run experiments over several parameters values
  • distribute jobs and data over a cluster
  • output to various formats (spreadsheets, Matlab, LaTeX tables, etc.)
Things I don't think it needs to do:
  • provide a fancy front-end (that can be done separately - I'm thinking mainly in terms of libraries)
  • visualize data
  • statistical analysis (although some basic stats would be handy)
The amount of output data I'm dealing with doesn't necessitate database software (some sort of structured markup is ok for me), but some people would probably like more powerful storage backends. I can see it as experiment management 'middleware'. There's no reason such software should be limited to computer science (nothing I'm contemplating is very domain specific). I can imagine many disciplines that would benefit."

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  1. Experience by robbyjo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I also did lots of comp sci empirical experiments. My experience is that the tools used for experimenting itself is very ad-hoc and not easily scriptable. Most of the times we are required to tend the hour-long experiments to see what happened on the output and decide what to do next. And... the decision is often times not clear cut. Some sort of heuristic is needed. Not to mention about the frustations when the errors occur (especially when the tool is buggy, which is very often in research settings). So, considering this, what I would do is to construct a script and do the experiments in phases. Run it and see the result several days after.

    I also noticed that from one experiment to another is sometimes radically different that I would doubt it is easily manageable.

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  2. Object Modeling System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take a look at the object modeling system. It is currently being developed by Agricultural Research Service but many other agencies are cooperating.

    http://oms.ars.usda.gov/

  3. Piracy is Your Only Option by use_compress · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. You cannot (?) afford commercial software.
    2. It is impractical for you to continue writing your own software.
    3. You cannot find open source software.
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    Conclusion: Steal commercial software! -)

  4. R? by Elektroschock · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did you consider R, a Splus clone? For Scientific Statistics a very flexible solution. http://www.r-project.org

  5. Ant, with some tweaking. by Xerithane · · Score: 4, Interesting
    We do something that almost parallels this, and we still haven't had the time to complete the Ant setup. The basic gist of it is that Ant has properties files that can contain any number of parameters, along with embedded XSLT functionality. This allows Ant to generate new build.xml files (The Ant build file) and run it, on the fly, given a set of user-entered commands, environment variables, or file parameters. The parameter files are easy to modify and update, and combined with CVS you can even do version control on the different experiments.

    What I would end up doing is setup an Ant build file for each experiment, under each algorithm.

    Algorithm/experiment_dataset1.properties
    Algori thm/experiment_dataset2.properties

    And then you can update property files, using a quick shell script, or something along those lines at the end of the data set, as well as having build/run times that Ant can retrieve for you. Good solution, and you aren't reinventing the wheel.

    Requires Java, which depending upon your ideology is either a good thing or a curse. :)
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  6. Uh-huh by Ryvar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't mean to sound cynical, but this seems to come across to me as a very nicely written:

    Ne3D H3lp WIt M4H H4x0RiN!!!!!

    I mean, let's face it, much of what modern hacking closed-sourced software consists of is throwing a variety of shit against a variety of programs in a variety of configurations and seeing what breaks and then following up to make an exploit out of it.

    While this probably isn't the case here, it's very hard to read that note and not snicker just a tiny, tiny bit . . .

  7. Oh that's easy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Academic Community, especially those strange AI people, have long sought complicated programs and machinery that could automate all of their work and projects, keep track of complicated "parameter sets, datasets, etc....".

    But what you are looking for, sir, is the cheap labor commonly known as a Graduate Student
    • Many of these "grads" [as they are commonly known] have INDEED been able to " 'execute' experiments and report their status", as well as "writing out results (available in multiple languages)".
    • The Graduate Student is often known for their abilities to create and distribute notes in lieu of bringing that onerous burden upon more high-ranking academic officials
    • ...you don't even have to dream about doing "clustered work" or "outputing results to spreadsheets, Matlab, LaTeX tables, etc....". These fancy machines can definately do that...
    • Of course, there are several "graduate students" that provide a fancy front end (and rear end, for that matter). I think that I would agree with your assesment that they do not need to have that feature, although it might make your days a bit more... ermm... *pleasant* :-)
    • As well, most graduate students have the capability of performing "basic stats", although most don't have an extensive faculty for performing such calculations...
    • And don't you even worry about the price -- you'll see that they're quite affordable.
    To conclude, you say that "There's no reason such software should be limited to computer science (nothing I'm contemplating is very domain specific). I can imagine many disciplines that would benefit". I would wholeheartedly have to agree with you: just about every discipline can do more and see farther by standing on the backs of their graduate students.
    In fact, I'm afraid to report that you are a bit behind the times in this department as these "Graduate Student" devices are quite common at universities and research labs.
    1. Re:Oh that's easy.... by quantaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course, there are several "graduate students" that provide a fancy front end (and rear end, for that matter). I think that I would agree with your assesment that they do not need to have that feature, although it might make your days a bit more... ermm... *pleasant* :-)

      That does have it's advantages though you should be cautious. In my experience those models often have a large number of bugs in their systems and tend to be a lot more likely to pick up viruses as well.
      This shouldn't be a problem for most operations but ocassionally if you try to interface them with your other components you may find your other systems becoming infected as well. In extreme cases you may also find interfacing with these systems can cause additional child processes to be created. These child processes are extremely hard to get rid of, early on you may be able to simply kill them but this command becomes extremely impratical after a few months of operation. These processes are known to take up huge amounts of resources and maintainance and often take the better part of 2 decades to subside (they're still present but resource demands drop considerably). Of course many of these risks can be alliviated by using a proper wrapper class while working with this "graduate student" systems.

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  8. ROOT by kenthorvath · · Score: 4, Informative
    http://root.cern.ch/

    We experimental high-energy physics folk have been using it (and PAW) for some time. It offers scripting and histogramming and analysis and a bunch of other features. And it's open source. Check it out.

  9. suggest jdb for managing individual experiments by john_heidemann · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been very happy using jdb (see below) to handle individual experiments, and directories and shell scripts to handle sets of experiments.

    JDB is a package of commands for manipulating flat-ASCII databases from shell scripts. JDB is useful to process medium amounts of data (with very little data you'd do it by hand, with megabytes you might want a real database). JDB is very good at doing things like:

    • extracting measurements from experimental output
    • re-examining data to address different hypotheses
    • joining data from different experiments
    • eliminating/detecting outliers
    • computing statistics on data (mean, confidence intervals, histograms, correlations)
    • reformatting data for graphing programs

    For more details, see http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/SOFTWARE/JDB/.

  10. Re:Perl is only useful for maintaining your job by asciirock · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just admit it. Perl slept with your wife. That's what this is really about, isn't it?

  11. Sounds like High Energy Physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    What you describe does indeed sound like High Energy Physics.

    And the "middleware" you need are the GNU tools gluing together the specialized programs that do the specific things you want.

    We have been using unix for a long time, and many of us prefer the combination of small targeted tools philosophy rather than a single monolithic package.

    I will repeat, and you can stop reading now if you want. The GNU tools, unix, and specialized scriptable programs are already the "middleware" you seek.

    If you are just missing some of the tools in the middle, here are the ones used in HEP. You might find more appropriate ones closer to whatever discipline you work in.

    All the basic unix text processing tools and shells.
    bash. csh. Perl. grep. sed. and so on.

    Filename schemes ranging from appropriate to clever to bizarre.
    (See other posts here)

    Make it so that all the inputs you want to change can be done on the command line or with an input steering text file.

    Same tools combined with some simple c-code to produce formats for spreadsheets or PAW or ROOT or whatever visualization or post-processing thing you need done. Has ntuple and histogram support automatically, which might be all you need.

    Almost always I choose space delimited text for simple output to push into PAW, ROOT, or spreadsheets. I keep a directory of templates to help me out here.

    Some people use full blown databases to manage output. For a long time there have been databases specific to the HEP needs. I recently have started using XML-style data formats to encapsulate such things in text files if the resulting output is more complicated than a single line. You mention XDF, sure, that sounds like the same idea.

    CONDOR (U Wisconsin) has worked nicely for me for clustering and batch job submission when I need to tool through 100 data files or 100 diffrent parameter lists on tens of computers. The standard unix "at" is good enough in a pinch if you play on only 5 computers or so.

    HEP folks use things like PAW and ROOT (find them at CERN) which contain many statistical analysis things and monstrous computation algorithsm. Or at least ntuples, histograms, averages, and standard deviations. You could go commercial or the gsl here if you prefer such things.

    CVS or similar to take care of code versions.
    Don't forget to comment your code.

    We write our own code and compile from fortran or c or c++ for most everything else.

    Output all plots to postscript or eps.

    LaTeX is scriptable.

    And use shells, grep, perl to glue it all together. Did I mention those already?
    I get a good night's sleep more often than not.

    And decide what to do next after coffee the following morning.
    This is where you put your brain, and if you have done the above well enough, this is where you spend most of your time.
    The answer I get each morning (as another post suggests) is always so suprising that I need to start from scratch anyway.

    I bet that is what you are doing already. Probably no monolithic software will be as efficient as that in a dynamic research environment.

    What did I miss from your question?

    Oh, yes. Get a ten-pack of computation notebook with 11 3/4 x 9 1/4 inch pages (if you print things with standard US letter paper). And lots of pens. And scotch tape to tape plots into that notebook. Laser printer and photocopier. Post-it notes to remind yourself what you wanted to do next (or e-mail memos to yourself). Maybe I should have listed this first.

    Good luck.

  12. Re:dependencies (but not make) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I ran into this problem when I was in graduate school, too. What I eventually did was to abandon make because of the limitations you are running into, and construct a special-purpose experiment running utility that would know about all the predecessors, etc. It turned out not to be too hard, actually. However, if you don't know perl or another language that gives you good pattern matching and substring extraction capability, then this will be very hard to do.

    I just wrote two functions. (I wrote them in the shell, but if I were doing it again, I'd probably do it in perl.) construct() simply makes a file if it is out of date (see example below). Construct() is where are of your rules go: it knows how to transform a target filename into a list of dependencies and a command.

    It uses a function called up_to_date() which simply calls construct() for each dependency, then returns false if the target is not up to date with respect to each dependency. If you don't do anything very sophisticated here, up_to_date will only be a few lines of code.

    "construct" will basically replace your makefile. For example, if you did it in perl, you could write it something like this:

    sub construct {
    local $_ = $_[0]; # Access the argument.

    if (/^base\.model(.)\.fold(\d+)\.test(.).run$/) {
    @dependencies = ("base.fold$2.test$3.test",
    "base.fold$2.train");
    if (!up_to_date($_, # Output file.
    @dependencies, # Input files.
    "model$1")) { # Rerun if prog changed, too.
    system("model$1 @dependencies > $_");
    }
    }
    elsif (/^....$/) { # .. Check other patterns. ...
    }
    }

    What you've gained from this is a much, much more powerful way of constructing the rule and the dependencies from the target filename. Of course, your file will be a little harder to read than a Makefile--that's what you pay for the extra power. But instead of having many duplicate rules in a makefile, you can use regular expressions or whatever kind of pattern matching capability you want to construct the rules.

  13. that's what UNIX is there for by g4dget · · Score: 4, Informative
    Managing and organizing really huge amounts of data is one of the big strengths of UNIX--you just have to learn how to use it well:
    • Consider using "make" or "mk" for automating complex processing steps. "make" also lets you parallelize complex experiments (by figuring out which jobs can be run safely in parallel), and some versions of "make" are capable of dealing with compute clusters. If you need to try something with multiple parameter values, write make rules and put the parameter values in there as dependencies.
    • Organize your data into directory hierarchies; pick meaningful and self-explanatory names. Don't let directories become too big. Keep related data files and results together in the same directory, and keep different data files in different directories.
    • Keep scripts and programs along with the data, not in completely separate source trees.
    • Write scripts that summarize the data and give them obvious names; you can figure out later from that what needs looking at and what it means.
    • Use textual data files as much as possible and have your programs add information to those files as comments that document what they did.
    • If you generated important result, keep a snapshot of the sources that generated it along with it.
    • Leave copious README files everywhere, containing notes to yourself, so that you can figure out what you did.
    • If you generate junk during some trial runs, delete it, or at least rename it to something like "results.junk", otherwise you'll trip over it later.
    • Back things up.
    • Learn the core UNIX command line tools, tools like "sort", "uniq", "awk", "cut", "paste", "find", "xargs", etc.; they are really powerful. You probably also want to learn Perl, but don't get into the habit of trying to do everything in Perl--the traditional UNIX tools are often simpler.
    • If you are using Windows, switch to UNIX. Windows may be good for starting up MS Office, but it is no good for this sort of thing. If you absolutely must use Windows for data analysis, stick your data into a relational database or Excel spreadsheets.
    • Learn to use environment variables.
    • Learn to use the Bourne/Korn/Bash shell; the C-shell is no good for this sort of thing.
    • For certain kinds of automation, expect is also very handy.
    • For visualizing data, write scripts that analyze your data and automatically generate the plots/graphs--you will run them again and again.

    Distribution of jobs, running things with multiple parameter values, etc., all can be handed smoothly from the shell. This is really the sort of thing that UNIX was designed for, and the entire UNIX environment is your "experiment management software".

  14. there are many projects developing such software! by edeljoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funding agencies in the USA (NSF, NIH) and Europe have recently decided to target the construction of such software, and many competing projects have been given grants, most of which involve the production of open source software.

    Relevant keywords are "eScience", "Experimental Data Management", "Experimental Metadata", and to some extent "Grid Computing".

    Here is a paper which lays out the program of research.

    I work for one such NSF & NIH funded project at Dartmouth College. We're developing such a tool : Java-based, completely open, available at sourceforge, currently in alpha, to be released for fMRI use in July, but designed from the start to be generalizable for all of experimental science. This is built on top of a pre-existing framework for semantic data management and modeling from Stanford.

    I'll try to list some of the features relevant to your needs:

    • the thing will organize all your data across all experiments and sports a nice Java API, annotations, a set of interchangable & sophisticated query engines, and java plugins for supporting, among other things, application specific tasks, application specific rendering widgets for data, and new backend data formats.
    • currently supported backend formats include: RDF, DAML+OIL, XML, text files, and SQL databases.
    • we should have cluster job submission support integrated in by july, but it depends on your cluster set-up. currently this is presented to the user by way of executing "processing pipelines" for data. If this metaphor doesn't work for you, you may have to write some additional code for us!
    • since the experimental designs are represented in a prolog-style knowledge-base, it would be very simple to put some intelligence in about how to "run" or "execute" a given class of experimental designs and do a lot of automatic reasoning or planning re: dependencies. In fact, I think that someone at Stanford has already done this, but I'd have to look into it.

    Finally, I would like to stress that our project is one of many, and that if it doesn't meet your needs, within a year there will be many competing "eScience" toolkits.

    You may contact me for more information by reversing the following string: "ude.htuomtrad@exj".