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Rabid TiVo Fanaticism

surfacearea writes "The New York Times [free reg] is running an article that, without sounding like over-the-top blatant product placement discusses the reasons why TiVo owners are at times frighteningly fanatical. Personally, I won't bother to find out first hand until they slap a recordable DVD drive in there."

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  1. Re:Come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Alright, that didn't work, do the Google Affiliate I guess.

    There, this one works.

    Sorry about that, but still, it's not too hard. There should be no more straight links that require registering in the main story, just get the Google affiliate.

  2. Thanks Google! by FsG · · Score: 5, Informative
    Thanks to google, here is a URL that doesn't require registration to read. Enjoy!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/20/fashion/20TIVO.h tml?ex=1051416000&en=a77422bb2a91649e&ei=5062&part ner=GOOGLE

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  3. I need just three things to replace my vcr by jd142 · · Score: 3, Informative

    1) Be able to watch one program and record another. With the gol darn digital cable, I can't do that any more. My VCR was cable ready for regular cable, why can't I get a PVR that's digital cable ready? As it is, I can get around this for cannels in the regular cable line up by bypassing the digital cable box, but since my cable provider puts all premium channels on digital, I can't tape a movie and watch Junkyard Wars at the same time. It also makes the timer feature on the vcr practically worthless.

    I love the hypocrisy of our local cable company; they have anti-satellite dish commercials that point out that you can't tape one show and watch another without a separate descrambler. No different than digital cable.

    2) Like the poster said, it needs a dvd recordable. I'll still buy the dvd collections, but sometimes I want to take a show on the road or loan it to a friend. I can do that just fine with my vcr.

    3) HDTV ready. Just to be future safe.

    You give me those things and then we'll talk price.

    1. Re:I need just three things to replace my vcr by microbob · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can do #1 already. My TiVo has dual tuners so I can watch one channel and record another. If you don't have dual tuners, then you can record a channel and watch a pre-recorded show.

      As to #3, I don't care to record HDTV, but I would like a HD decoder built in. Once I got my TiVo I've not turned on my Proscan HD decoder since. It just collects dust until something really good comes on in HD (like Band of Brothers).

      M.B.

    2. Re:I need just three things to replace my vcr by LoadStar · · Score: 5, Informative
      You can do #1 already. My TiVo has dual tuners so I can watch one channel and record another. If you don't have dual tuners, then you can record a channel and watch a pre-recorded show.

      You missed that the poster said he has cable, specifically digital cable. The dual tuner PVR is manufactured by and for DirecTV with TiVo Technology - it doesn't work with cable. Neither TiVo nor ReplayTV make a cable-compatible PVR with dual tuners.

  4. The Space Management Issue - Workaround. by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sure, TiVo could do a better job with disk drives, and their early hacker-friendliness was nice for their early adopters, and it'd be nice to have a recording capability built in, but now that disk drive capacities have gotten big enough to store 60+ hours instead of 10 hours, the easy workaround is to back things up to VCR (Remember the VCR you used to use before you got TiVo? It's still on your shelf somewhere, probably even still near the TV :-)

    Pop in a 10-hour tape, and tell it to play all those Farscape episodes while you're at work, and you can free up the space on your disk while keeping the program content manageable. It'd be nice to have it record stuff at 8x speeds onto a DVD burner instead of 1x, but remember, this is mostly the TV you haven't watched yet, or the episodes you've seen already plus the one from the last week or two. And if the software's at all bright enough, if you do want to watch the tape later, you should be able to spool it back into the TiVo for random-access play rather than just using your VCR's fast-forward and reverse and such.

    (I don't own TiVo myself; we kept dithering about whether we'd rather improve our TV watching experience or stick the TV in the garage so we don't watch it at all, and buying a TiVo would have committed us to one of those strategies :-)

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    1. Re:The Space Management Issue - Workaround. by volkerdi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pop in a 10-hour tape, and tell it to play all those Farscape episodes while you're at work...

      It would be delightful to be able to do this, but the TiVo only supports dumping one program at a time to tape, and then you have to select another program from "Now Showing" and pick the "Save to VCR" option again. A playlist feature would be a most welcome addition.

      I'm sure TiVo's heard this already, but it wouldn't hurt to tell them again.

  5. Re:You don't realise how much you love it... by irving47 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You need to hit tivocommunity.com immediately for help.

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  6. Re:You don't realise how much you love it... by tsnow1994 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ya....grab a fresh drive, snag the MFS tools and get someone to point you to an image for your Tivo, and you'll be back in business in 30 mins after the image download is done.

  7. Re:Recordable DVD Drive a Deal-Breaker? by gilesjuk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yyou can insert a NIC card into the TiVo and extract the video streams, convert and burn on the PC. That way you only need one DVD recorder drive.

    Is this what you meant?

  8. DVD drive project... by apexchin · · Score: 2, Informative
    There was an informal group that tried to hack a DVD burner into a Dtivo. Not sure how far they got, but you can check out the thread here

    Jeff

  9. Re:Recordable DVD Drive a Deal-Breaker? by Unoriginal+Nick · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK. Try here. 100 pack of Lead Datas for $79.00

  10. DVD-RAM/HDD combo is a much better way to go by ziaz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Combine a 120GB HD and a DVD recorder capable of recording DVD-RAM and DVD-R and you have all you'll ever need. There are tons of models that combine DVD and HDD here in japan.

    1. Re:DVD-RAM/HDD combo is a much better way to go by ziaz · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://panasonic.jp/dvd/recorder/e90h/spec/01.html or http://www.rd-style.com/products/rdxs40/

  11. Re:gimme a break; learn to use a VCR! by LinuxHam · · Score: 3, Informative

    What am I missing here?

    1. With DirecTiVo, you can watch one live show while recording another one. (Okay, you can do that with a VCR) With any unit (even one-tuner standalone ones), you can watch a prerecorded show while recording another one off air. You most definitely cannot do that with a VCR. I often watch a prerecorded show if I come home in the middle of a show I'm recording and I'm not in the mood to watch it at that time.

    2. There are no VCRs that can store 100's of hours of programs. I'm away from home all week and have tons of shows that I like to have ready for instant playback when I get home.

    3. If you come home in the middle of a recording and you want to see the show, you can start playing the show from the beginning even while the TiVo is still recording the remainder. And you get to fast forward thru the commercials to boot!

    4. If you pause live tv to take a call or a shower, you get to FF thru the commercials when you return and "catch up" to live tv. Works great during auto racing and hockey games when you want to FF through slow periods. Same if you rewind and replay exciting action -- all that time is spent building up record-ahead time. Rewind and replay enough times and you will be able to FF through the commercials when you're ready to move on.

    5. TiVo also displays descriptions of tv shows while you're channel surfing.

    6. Since the video is not accelerated to the television, even during fast forward, the TiVo actually plays closed captions in fast forward!

    7. Forget about all the networkable features such as digital extraction of content recorded at DVD quality suitable for burning to recordable media.

    8. Um, profit? :)

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  12. Rip from your TiVo by pcwhalen · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had my TiVo modded to add 2 120 gig HDs [can't go bigger because of a BIOS deal...] and have over 300 hours of viewing goodness. That's over 10 DAYS of programming. That's a lot of SpongeBob. If I wanted, there is an Ethernet add-in that ostensibly allows the"daily call" [for programming info] to be made over your broadband connection. It also allows you to telnet to the TiVo and take programs off the unit to your computer HD for transfer to CD or DVD. Pretty much they are MPEG files with additional info for the TiVo OS. Try Ninthtee for info.

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  13. Re:A TiVo Feature I'd Like by Bleck · · Score: 5, Informative
    You know what TiVo feature I'd like? I'd like the ability to specify that I only want X episodes of a show recorded, but to not keep replacing those X episodes unless I've deleted them. Right now, you can specify that you want 2 episodes, but the TiVo will keep recording the latest aired episodes regardless of whether you've touched those two.

    Actually, TiVo already does that -- we use that feature quite often. Just set the "Keep Until" date to the "Keep Until I Delete" option (green-dot mode). That will make it record the shows, and since it won't erase them until you do it manually, it will stop recording any newer ones; it won't overwrite them. Works like a charm!

    --Tom
  14. DVD-R?????? by /dev/trash · · Score: 2, Informative

    For TV? A VCD or maybe SVCD recorder maybe.

  15. Re:Recordable DVD Drive a Deal-Breaker? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Informative

    "If only ReplayTV didn't pretty much just go down the crapper... "

    It hasn't gone down the crapper, yet at least. It's still working just fine and I'm still being billed. I also got a notification that service isn't going to be interrupted.

    However, I agree, these are scary times for us Replay Subscribers.

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  16. Re:love it, and I will miss it dearly by uberdood · · Score: 2, Informative
    I also wish that TiVo would allow me to jump ahead 15-30 seconds instead of larger amounts. that way I don't have to fast forward through an ad or show, but I can jump. There are increments that I can jump through now, but they look to be 10-15mins... not seconds.
    Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select.

    Then hit the button to the lower right of your pause key.
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  17. Re:Oh, I've got complaints! by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tivo's suggestions are crap. Truly crap.

    Shrug. My suggestions are pretty good, on both TiVo's. In fact, we regularly watch stuff from the Suggestions. The key is to not go overboard with thumbs up and down -- if you like a show, give it one or maybe two thumbs up. If you don't like a show give it a single thumbs down. Three thumbs up or down is severe overkill and will certainly screw the Suggestion engine in a nasty way.

    This should be improved, and they should really bring back TeachTiVo (which was a backdoor into editing the Suggestion engine - it let you see exactly what the TiVo thought you liked and disliked and allowed you to modify the values). Realize that when you give a thumbs up/down to a show (particularly multiple thumbs) you're not just giving it to that show -- you're also giving it to the genres, the actors, the directors, etc.

    ts also is in desperate need of a smarter season pass

    That's not a TiVo issue, it's a Comedy Central one. Bitch at them for not giving Tribune Media jack shit for info on their shows -- they don't even give the most rudimentry episode information. Without this there's no way for TiVo to know if it's a rerun or not.

    There's a workaround, if you watch it every day though - you can simple change Keep At Most to 1. It'll record every one of them, but only keep one. Obviously no good if you miss a day.

    They need to optimise the code or do something to avoid the long 20 seconds of lag I get pretty often

    I suspect you have a Series 1. It's running on a 30 MHz CPU. It's doing far more than was ever anticipated for it. It's slow. That's life.

    Lastly, it needs some kind of user level password protection.

    I do believe that rating based content protection is available. Look under Settings.