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Diabetes "Cured" In Mice With Virus Therapy

phlack writes "Scientists at Baylor College of Medicine have found a way to treat diabetes in mice by using a virus (with the harmful genes removed) to trick the liver into working as a pancreas. This is still a ways away from working in humans, but it's progress, at least. Info can be found at Guardian and Science Daily."

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  1. Now by GigsVT · · Score: 4, Funny

    All the need to do is invent another virus that makes some other organ function as a liver!

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    1. Re:Now by unperson · · Score: 4, Funny

      All the need to do is invent another virus that makes some other organ function as a liver!

      I second that! But I see a vicious cycle occuring...

      1. Drink alcohol. Liver goes out. Virus ingested to cause pancreas to function as liver.

      2. Pancreas begins functioning as liver. Now we have

      Pancreas = Pancreas + Liver

      The extra workload causes pancreas to fail.

      3. Virus #2 must be invented.

      Appendix = Appendix + Pancreas + Liver.

      ...and we all know that the appendix is a good-for-nothing, organ.

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      n. Head stuck in climate controlled jar ala Futurama (esp. season 1)...

      The future is now!

    2. Re:Now by L.+VeGas · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, I need something to keep my dick from acting as my brain.

    3. Re:Now by orangesquid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      cat /dev/consciousness >/dev/slashdot:
      Actually, who knows---maybe the Appendix is really there as a scratch organ for virus therapy techniques! Kind of like a /tmp ?

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    4. Re:Now by belroth · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nah, I need something to keep my dick from acting as my brain.
      Get married!
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  2. As a diabetic by devphil · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I have to wonder what takes the place of the liver. (Articles have been /.ed into dust.)

    Given the choice between a normal liver plus insulin injections, versus a "virtual pancreas" and some unknown liver treatment, I think I'd stick with the devil I knew.

    More precisely, I know how my body reacts to insulin injections. Nobody knows how it would react to - ah screw it, I can't seem to express this thought coherently.

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    1. Re:As a diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > I have to wonder what takes the place of the liver. (Articles have been /.ed into dust.)

      This prototype treatment only affects a small portion of the liver; it caused the growth of cell islets that produced insulin and three pancreatic hormones. Liver function was apparently unaffected by the growth of the islets. The goal is a one-time shot to induce the islets' growth. After that, they're self-maintaining just like the other liver tissues.

      It did temporarily (for four months) cure the diabetes, so it does look promising. But it's not nearly ready for human use.

    2. Re:As a diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      (Why am I even bothering to talk to an AC? Fuck, I must be bored.)

      Yeah, but let's click submit anyway. Moron.
    3. Re:As a diabetic by HBI · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Still, being a diabetic myself, I would take anything that got me off the regimen of thrice-daily shots and the constant mood swings.

      Also the threat of longterm vision loss, kidney failure, neuropathy and potential loss of limbs ...listen if I have to take antirejection drugs instead of the crap I have to do now, i'm on board.

      Hope it's available before my checkout date.

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  3. Safe Vectors by smoondog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FYI - The real question about this, and other gene therapy experiments, focueses on the safety of the vector being used. In this case an adenovirus virus was used. The virus itself is no longer virulent, but how does the target genetic material get integrated into the hosts genome? If it occurs at a specific site, then safety is maximized. If it occurs randomly, then you run the risk of knocking out genes where only a single healthy allele exists (loss of heterozygosity) and potentially, cancer.

    Gene therapy holds a lot of promise, but the early cases of leukemia (remember the bubble boy cure? Two 'cured' patients subsequently developed cancer) make it prohibative. I'm an expert enough to know this a problem (in theory and in practice) but not enough of one to know how close we are to solving it.

    -Sean

  4. Here's a link by VisorGuy · · Score: 3, Informative
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  5. Problem of autoimmune destruction not solved by baz00f · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just read the Nature Medicine article and the authors speculate that they were able to induce differentiation of hepatic stem cells or hepatocytes into islet-like cells, and it looks very convincing. A potential major shortcoming of this approach is not addressed, which is that in type I ("juvenile") diabetes, the islet cells are destroyed by an autoimmune response. Thus if you generate new self "pseudo islets", you may have present the very antigens that led to their destruction in the first place. The reason that is not a problem in this experiment is that the authors artificially destroy the islets with the toxin streptozotocin. The real test would be in an animal model that mimics type I diabetes, like the non-obese diabetic (NOD) mouse. I hope and assume that is the next critical experiment.

    1. Re:Problem of autoimmune destruction not solved by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I suspect that, once you have a way to make new insulin-producing cells, the autoimmune problem will be relatively easy to get around. Prior to this point there was no way to test any potential solutions simply because the problem has never been detected in people until it was too late and their islets were destroyed.

      Current immunosuppressive drugs may do well to inhibit the destruction of the new glands. Then again, the "pseudo-islets" may not even express the same antigens as the natural islets of Langerhans, and therefore might be immune to destruction.

    2. Re:Problem of autoimmune destruction not solved by iawia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ah, no, not easy.

      In tests where people have received new insulin-producing cells (either separately, or as part of an entire liver/pancreas transplant) immuno-suppressive drugs are indeed used. In some cases those drug prove effective, but in others the immune-system again destroys the new cells.

      Other research has been successful in the 'mice' stage, providing new beta cells wrapped in a miniature shell, with openings wide enough for the insulin to get out, but not wide enough for T-cells to get in, thus providing protection from the immune system. No human tests, yet, though. (I'm sorry to say... as a diabetic, I'd be ready to participate in that kind of research.)

      But as you say, this new line is at least an interesting new (for me) approach, and the new islets might be different enough for the immune system to ignore them.

    3. Re:Problem of autoimmune destruction not solved by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You have to remember that a transplant of islet cells suffers from a double-whammy; not only are they of a cell type that the immune system previously destroyed, but they're also foreign organisms, coming from another human being. It'd be difficult to predict how much better immunosuppressants might work on cells that weren't foreign but merely altered.

    4. Re:Problem of autoimmune destruction not solved by iawia · · Score: 3, Informative

      That is indeed a problem, but it apparently is possible to chart the two effects seperately. The type of T cells used to attack foreign material is different enough from the auto-immune type for there to be seperate tests for the two effects.

      I attended a presentation on a Dutch/Belgian effort late last year, where the subjects were people who had a whole pancreas transplanted. There were neatly seperated charts for the normal immune reaction and the auto-immune reaction, and the combination. Only is both reaction were sufficiently low did the transplant succeed (and the success-rate was rather low, I'm sorry to say...)

  6. Swapping problems by mnmn · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Now the mice will have to deal with a brand new problem.. dysfunctional livers, which will then be augumented with normal livers from other 'failed' mice. I'm sure most diabetics patients will prefer the frequent needle.

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  7. Re:Er, hang on a minute by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Informative

    I read the article, I just misunderstood it. It was a poorly written article.

    The hope is that gene therapy might offer an alternative to another promising but still rare treatment which is undergoing trials in Britain. This involves transplanting cells from other people's pancreases into patients. But patients, even if freed from insulin injections, would have to take anti-rejection drugs for the rest of their lives and there is a shortage of potential donors.

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  8. The effect on the liver is ignorable because.... by judowillreturns · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Up to 2/3 of your liver may be destroyed (or poisoned) and it will still function correctly. I very much doubt that anything like this much will be affected by this process. Therefore it is safe to assume that there will be no percieved effects of this treatment other than the positive!

  9. Type II? by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This sort of advance should work very well for people who have type I diabetes, where their bodies no long secrete insulin. I have to wonder how well it will work in people with adult-onset, type II diabetes, which is triggered by a malformed receptor that isn't sensitive enough to secreted insulin. The use of oral or injectable insulin might be eliminate, but I worry that the attendant physical ailments, such as diabetic retinopathy, will still dog those who suffer. Unfortunately, the problem of fixing those receptors may prove to be much more difficult.

  10. Type 1 Diabetes cured LONG ago!!! by ivi · · Score: 3, Informative


    C'mon, fellas... CBC's science program Quirks & Quarks
    reported (over 18 months ago) that islet transplants
    were suceeding in almost 90% of cases.

    A further development (by a private sector co.)
    reported greater success rates or fewer problems.

    Let's get this story as well, eh?

  11. A few more links and ideas by SolemnDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Here is one article addressing autoimmune diseases and mice. It's relevant because it's utilising gene technologies and mentions diabetes. Diabetes- according to what i know of it, and i'll admit that my knowledge comes by way of celiac sprue and sjogren's, which sit on the same gene bench- is one of the diseases that they're actively looking for a shutoff for. There are cases where some trigger just runs up the line and hits all the genetic trigger 'switches', resulting in a number of things, including adult onset diabetes. Yes, it takes a lot of environmental factors to make this happen, but it happens more than you think, so pay attention.

    Here is an excellent read on type one diabetes and stem cell research, and a comment on why study sjogren's in conjunction with diabetes (namely, the organ being damaged is much easier to get at and assess.)

    Here is a great site for info- the CDC genomics site, which includes info on common and rare genetic diseases, and can give a greater array of background info. NCBI offers another set of info- an explanation of human mouse homology (thus answering the question... why mice?

    I hope this helps put some extra info out there for those of you who are interested. And frankly, as one who has had to deal with the sudden "switching on" of not just one but a whole array of diseases- since my DNA happened to include the lucky strands- I'm now having my stance on animal testing completely revised...