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Matrix Sequels To Get the IMAX Treatment

hondo77 writes "As if the two sequels to "The Matrix" weren't a big enough event already, it has been announced that both films will also be showing in IMAX theaters. "Although "The Matrix Reloaded" will open in Imax theaters two or three weeks after its general release May 15, "The Matrix Revolutions" will open Nov. 5 in both conventional and Imax cinemas..."."

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  1. Upgrade? by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...a technology that upgrades live-action 35mm films into the Imax experience.

    I don't know if I could call it an upgrade when you have to use Pan & Scan. Sure it's bigger, and more exciting, but you're missing pieces.

    Here's a mirror to the article:

    Link 1

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    1. Re:Upgrade? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Errr, they display the movie in "letterbox"-style format on the IMAX screen (I would know, I saw Oceans Eleven on the IMAX). So the image is bigger, AND you get the kick-a** IMAX sound system.

    2. Re:Upgrade? by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 5, Funny
      Maybe I got hosed, but I saw the IMAX version of Episode 2 at the IMAX at the Tech Museum in San Jose. Among other issues, the sound was the worst part! Explosions were cool, but in any medium or close shot, the voice did not match the position of the actor.

      On the plus side, the opening scene rocked and Natalie Portman's 20 foot tall breasts weren't that bad either...

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    3. Re:Upgrade? by utopyr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I saw Episode Two at home, on DVD. The worst part was the dialogue.

    4. Re:Upgrade? by Temsi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You didn't read the article, did you?

      The difference here is that they use the DMR process to enlarge the frame, so it can be put to IMAX size 70mm film. To make a long story short, it analyzes each frame and enlarges it to IMAX proportions, maintaining image sharpness and detail along the way.
      Since the aspect ratio of the IMAX screen is not widescreen, but closer to 4:3, a pan and scan is necessary to use the full screen.
      Ocean's Eleven did not go through this process. What you saw, was a 35mm print, projected onto an IMAX screen, with a standard 5.1 or 6.1 Dolby Digital audio mix. A completely different thing. 35mm film projected to a screen that huge will go soft (lose sharpness).

      I've seen many films projected that way (including Ocean's Eleven, Minority Report and Jurassic Park 3), and while they look huge, and have kick ass sound, the DMR looks so much better, and sounds so much better.
      That's because the image is processed especially to take advantage of the bigger screen (grain removal, detail enhancing and more) and a new sound mix to take full advantage of the more powerful sound system.

      Apollo 13 looked amazing, SWep2 look great, but the HiDef source materical wasn't really made to withstand this type of blowup (even though it was impressive, you could still see pixellation), it was designed for normal sized theatres.

      Personally, I'll see the 35mm first, simply because I love and prefer widescreen. Then I'll see the IMAX.

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  2. A dream is a wish your heart makes... by dynayellow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, that'd make Carrie Ann Moss' shoulder-blades big enough to sling a hammock... on...

    (slips in to geek catatonia)

  3. Yay by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "As if the two sequels to "The Matrix" weren't a big enough event already, it has been announced that both films will also be showing in IMAX theaters."

    The more these guys try to hype the Matrix, the more I want to distance myself from it. Anybody else worried they're over-marketing it?

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    1. Re:Yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Overmarketing is when you sell a sucky product by hyping it. Matrix Reloaded is going to be a superb product. Don't be so cynical. Pretend you're 11 and this is Empire Strikes Back.

    2. Re:Yay by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Overmarketing is when you sell a sucky product by hyping it. Matrix Reloaded is going to be a superb product. Don't be so cynical. Pretend you're 11 and this is Empire Strikes Back."

      How do you know that? Name 3 movies in the last 20 years that recieved lots of hype before launch, and ended up deserving it. I can name a few *cough*Godzilla*cough*LastActionHero*Coughh*Episod es1&2*cough* that were hyped in much the same way, only to be extremely dumb movies.

      I'd love to sit back and say "Ah well I'm going to enjoy whatever I get" except all the signs are pointing towards me being out $20.

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    3. Re:Yay by Xerithane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How do you know that? Name 3 movies in the last 20 years that recieved lots of hype before launch, and ended up deserving it. I can name a few *cough*Godzilla*cough*LastActionHero*Coughh*Episod es1&2*cough* that were hyped in much the same way, only to be extremely dumb movies.

      I don't remember much hype about Last Action Hero. I didn't even know what it was until TBS showed it a few years later, and thought, "Hmm.. the lows some people will go."

      I'm dying to see the Matrix Reloaded. Matrix fills a role as "Damned Awesome Once a Year Movie" that Star Wars 4-6 never did for me. I don't want a Galaxy far, far away. I want people doing crazy shit in my world. The Matrix does this.

      Did you even see the trailer for it? Reloaded has the best trailer for any movie to date. It puts the Ep1&2 trailers to shame. The Wachowski (sp?) brothers know what they're doing with the creative license, and they have a team to make it golden.

      I've never been this excited over a movie, it must be like you're 11 and actually thought Star Wars was cool, something I never could experience.

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    4. Re:Yay by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I don't remember much hype about Last Action Hero."

      Let me put it to you this way: It was hyped enough that a reference to it made it into an episode of Married With Children. It's not very often sitcoms admit to the existence of movies.

      "Did you even see the trailer for it? Reloaded has the best trailer for any movie to date. It puts the Ep1&2 trailers to shame. "

      The trailer wasn't that cool. It showed a few neat-o effects, no argument there. So did Episode 1. Only, Episode 1's trailer led you to believe that there was going to be some massive epic battle in the end, not some pathetic skirmish. What if Reloaded is that way? What if there's a couple of cool battle scenes, but it's tied together by a flimsy plot designed to place those characters into that situation?

      "The Wachowski (sp?) brothers know what they're doing with the creative license, and they have a team to make it golden."

      There was a time where the same would have been said about George Lucas. Who's saying that today?

      Look, the movie could be good. I hope it's good, I'd like it to be good. What I'm reacting to is how hard they're trying to sell this movie on me. that should always send up a red flag. If this movie's so good, then how come they need Superbowl ads for it? How come they are trying to lure people into more expensive IMAX theaters for it?

      The only thing giving me hope for Reloaded right now is the Animatrix. That's where the true creativity seems to be coming from. So far, from the first movie and what's been seen from the second one, it's an attempt to make anime-style editing into live-action. Fine. Just make the story interesting.

      Frankly, I'm saddened that the first Matrix wasn't more like X-Men. I mean, who'd shed a tear of any of the characters from the Matrix was killed? Pretty flat.

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    5. Re:Yay by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 5, Funny
      Wow, this reminds me of a joke that used to circulate in communist Czechoslovakia in the 80's:

      NASA to Washington: "Mr. President, the Soviets have landed on the moon, and it looks like they're painting the whole thing red! What should we do?"

      "Wait until they're done. Then paint 'Coca Cola' over it!"

  4. Re:Oh wow! Yes! uh oh.. by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny
    "The new Matrix films, awesome...

    The new Matrix films in IMAX... whoa... oooh...
    ahh...

    Uh oh.. underwear check."


    Great. He just made a prequal.
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  5. Forget IMAX! I want DLP by enkidu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like the subject says, I don't want film, I want digital. Having seen several films (Akira (twice digital, once on film), Monster's Inc. (1+1), SW: TPM (1+1), etc.) on DLP and on film, I can say that the film going experience is a full order of magnitude better on DLP. The blacks are black. The edges are sharper, the film "jitter" is gone and the whole image simply kicks ass. Yes, I know that film is theoretically better. But the print you see in the theatre is 4 generations old if you're lucky and 6 or 7 if you're not. So forget nausea inducing IMAX, bring it in DLP and I'll go to see it 5 times.

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  6. I hope they filmed it with higher res cameras by jackb_guppy · · Score: 4, Informative

    With Star Wars II film with a camera that had a resulation less than 35mm film. All three verisons of the film 35mm, digital, and IMax, looked bad and blocky.

    If they did that here too... IMax and most big screen would be a waste of space.

  7. It is about gosh darn time! by confused+philosopher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been waiting years for feature length films to show up in IMAX. Now that they've overcome the technical difficulties of it all, people can start to enjoy films that are worth the $10+ we shell out to see them on BIG screens.

    I bet this won't be part of the Museum of Civilation IMAX in Hull though, where you can see all the IMAX movies shown in a year for only $35 Canadian.

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  8. Sounds like something we joke about.... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like something we joke about: getting to see Carrie Anne Moss in that dashingly dirty and hormone punishing leather outfit, stretching out in a leaping attack in slow and glorious "in bullet time".

  9. Re:Oh wow! Yes! uh oh.. by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

    Underwear Boy: Do not try and check the underwear. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.

    Neo: What truth?

    Underwear Boy: There is no underwear.

  10. Comparisons... by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having seen Star Wars: Episode 2 in DLP, Imax and plain film, I'd greatly disagree. Imax was FAR superior in quality of the image, and overall cinematic experience than DLP.

    Episode II was projected at 1280x1024, stretched to the normal aspect ratio by a 1.9X anamorphic lens to stretch the image back to its correct resolution...

    Thats not a lot of pixels for a full-size screen. Pixelation was very noticable. Color saturation and consistancy was somewhat better, but not enough to say its superior to the Imax experience.

    Given the choice I'd rather see any action movie in the Imax format, seconded with DLP, and then film... Dramatic movies, I'd probably swap DLP and Imax in favor of not pan-n-scanning, but one could just as easily use the 70mm IMAX frame with cropped images, or an anamorphic lens to get the full-size image as well.

  11. First predictive post by The+Bungi · · Score: 4, Funny
    Cue:
    • 33 "whoa" posts
    • 21 posts with references to Trinity's boobs
    • 3 "Netcraft confirms - *BSD is Dying" posts
    • 1 "Netcraft confirms - The Matrix is dying" as correction to the above
    • 3 posts asking what the Matrix is
    • 41 flamish replies to the above
    • 12 "Why don't they release 'X' on IMax instead" posts
    • 10 "The Matrix is overrated" posts (modded as overrated)
    • 3 "The matrix sucks" posts (-1, flamebait)
    • 5 posts making some connection between The matrix and Open Source
    • 4 posts making some connection between The Matrix and real life, by 12-17 year olds
    • One as above, but by a 40-year old.
    • 3 "First Post" posts
    • 1 goatse post
    • 1 goatse post with a URL redirect claiming a Bittorrent download of the movie
    • 1 predictive post post. Whoa!
  12. WARNING! IMAX vs Omnimax by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've seen and enjoyed many IMAX features, including a few 3D titles ("Across the Sea of Time," a NYC travelogue, was just amazing).

    Last fall, a local (Portland, Oregon) science museum advertised a super-large screen version of Attack of the Clones. WOW! I wanted to see the movie again, and here it was being presented in 70mm format on a BIG SCREEN! Golly, how could I lose? I gladly paid the ten dollars and . . .

    Cripes . . .

    It turns out that the Portland OMSI theater had an OMNIMAX screen. Not IMAX. The latter is a gently curved, huge, conventional movie screen. The former is basically hemispherical.

    There was NO correction for the curvature. Everything was BENT. Ships travelled in curved lines.

    It was SUCKY experience. To rub things in, it was a CUT version of the film. Nothing crucial was cut, but it was noticiable.

    My experience might have been totally different in an IMAX theater.

    So . . . beware.

    Stefan

  13. Re:Gah! by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw AOTC in IMAX, and it completely sucked.

    Actually, you can remove the "in IMAX" from the sentence and it's still true.

    GMD

  14. IMAX is different cinematography altogether by green+pizza · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe I'm too picky, but my biggest complaint about upconverting 35mm movies to IMAX is the mismatched cinematography, not the technical gotchas. The whole idea behind an IMAX film is to give the audience a window into a different world. Think about the "native" IMAX films you've seen... rather than use a mixture of camera angles to project a story on a screen, an IMAX film treats the audience as a camera and the screen as window. Slow, wide pans... a large, detailed screen... conservative transitions. IMAX filmmakers want you to feel as though you're truly inside the new environment, actually being positioned to see the action in front of you... not just watching a story on a glorifed TV. A good, native IMAX movie does this -- it makes the audience feel as though they're truly hovering around the subject matter. A bad IMAX movie makes the audience tired, confused, or sick.

    My other beef is with the public's misconception of the IMAX film format. Traditional (non-dome) IMAX uses 15/70 film. That is, 70mm film with 15 sprockets per frame. This is not plain "70mm film, which dedicates only 5 sprockets per frame. 15/70 IMAX has 3x as much film surface area as plain 70mm and nearly 10x as much as plain 35mm. (Plus other benefits, such as double the framerate and generally better audio. Though 35mm is catching up with some recent films being available in 48fps and new 7.1 channel audio from Sony SDDS and DTS).

    For more information on the IMAX format, check these out:
    http://www.superspeedway.com/eng/imax1.html

    http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/imax1.htm

  15. Re:I was underwhelmed by IMAX by Lev13than · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because you probably saw an OMNIMAX (aka ""IMAX DOME") as opposed to an IMAX. The OMNIMAX has a round screen & more immersive experience, but there aren't as many screens or movies out there. Most OMNIMAXes usually just show IMAX movies w/o taking advantage of the larger screen. Same company though, and essentially the same technology.

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  16. Re:Oh wow! Yes! uh oh.. by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The new Matrix films, awesome...

    The new Matrix films in IMAX... whoa... oooh... ahh...


    I don't know, personally I wish films like this were given a chance to breath first. Hollywood puts so much wieght into financial success at the box office, it's almost like insider trading now. Bet on the success of whichever movie has the best marketing crew, and you'll get good returns on your money.

    When the matrix first came out, it had very little fanfare. The experience of seeing the film itself is what drove people to tell thier friends and families. Word of mouth has always been the sincere means of measuring the value of a movie. The best thing to do with a film like this is wait. Maybe it doesn't belong on an IMAX screen because it's not worth seeing period. Or maybe, it's even better than the original. There's no way to know.

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  17. er, other uses for imax theatres by Pyrosophy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A friend and I once had what tycoons describe as a shining glimpse of outrageous fortune:

    IMAX Porn

    "Like-you're-there", motion enhanced nakedness. The perfect format, the only route porn can take other than virtual reality. Theaters all across the country and after a tricky patent, the profits in hand. One might say with the gnomes:

    1. Invent IMAX Porn.
    2. Profit.
    3. Profit.
    4. Profit.

    No question marks needed. But I have come to realize that the gains would be ill-gotten, so I hand the idea to you, oh world.

    1. Re:er, other uses for imax theatres by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 5, Funny

      5. Use your profit to pay someone ELSE to clean the seats

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