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New Terminator 3 Trailer Released
An anonymous reader writes "Sony has just released a fantastic Terminator 3 trailer on the Apple trailer site. After several ho hum WB trailers I was feeling like this movie was going to be a re-tread, but the Sony trailer really raised my blood temperature. Also I checked out the official Terminator 3 website. Although it's flash only (major sin), it is full of good stuff. The time travel forum could use a bit of filling out."
Its also too bad not all trailers are savable. Sometimes I have to root through the browser cashe, and sometimes it still isn't anywhere to be found. Yes I tell quicktime to cashe whenever possible. Anyone know how I can save any quicktime movie from a page? I remember the years before apple.com hosted the trailers and there were sites devoted to serving trailers. These sites had no problem letting me save the trailers.
oh how altruistic, NOT !
They figure that the expense is worth the initiative it might provide for users to download windows version of their software. If it werent for trailors, i wouldnt have Quicktime bloatware on my machine.
Siggy Say, Siggy Do
Although it's flash only (major sin)
Why is it a "major sin" that it is Flash only?
The producers of this site wanted to make an impressive multi-media rich site to make people want to go see their film. The only way to really do that effectively is with Flash. The vast majority of people have the Flash plug-in, and won't really care (or even know) what format the site is in.
Yes, the world would be a better place if multimedia web sites could be practically developed using open tools and open file formats such as SVG. But they can't. So people use Flash. Live with it.
I still don't understand why SVG isn't default in all OSS browsers. You can complain about Flash or you can try to change the status quo. Many people in the OSS community like to complain...
Let's not forget the scene in Predator where Arnie and friends deforest all around them ! Longest gatling shooting scene I can remember :)
Can someone explain to me how Arnold is back in this one? I thought he melted himself in the last movie.
Remember? "Nowh Ie nouw wiey you kry..."
Ok - when you look at the page, you want to find the EMBED tag that holds the movie, so try the following command:g elsfullthrottle/large_trailer.html | grep EMBED
curl http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/charliesan
Looking at the embed tag, you will see that it references two quick time movies, one as a SRC argument, and one as a HREF argument. If both are given, you want the HREF, otherwise, you want the SRC.
here is the link from the HREF option. It is the reference file for the movie.
Now, download it and run strings on it. You will see several instances of "url" on one line, and a url on the next line. These are the movies that the reference movie points to. Almost always, the first several will be to inform users that they have too old of a version of quick time (they usually have a quicktime version embedded in the name. ) skip over them.
at the end of the file, you will see this: ca2_fullthrottle-tlr_m480.mov - that is the relative path to the real movie file.
Take the URL for the reference file, and replace ca2_fullthrottle-tlr_481.mov with ca2_fullthrottle-tlr_m480.mov, and you will have this - the url for the actual movie data file.
This technique should work, even if Apple changes their convention of just adding a m before the size of the movie, to indicate the real file.
This also only works if the movie is being served over http. If it is over rtsp, you will need some extra tools.
I hope this helps. If you get confused, here is a decompiled version of the reference file, so that you can see in plain text what all of the embedded urls are for.
Yeah, I hate downloading that free version of their software to watch a movie that can be played on almost any platform. Now, I don't have a linux box, but it's been pointed out by several people on slashdot that there is software available that will play quicktime movies for those boxes.
/don't watch the trailer/. Jeez, you people act like their taking away your first amendment rights.
I'm so sick of seeing comments like this whenever a new movie trailer comes out. Its quicktime because its on Apples effin site and its a good way to promote quicktime technologies which they would like to see adopted because its their job to make effin money. If you don't like quicktime then
That's Austrian, and believe me, you would notice. HIs voice would sound a lot less open-mouthed ("ahhhnold") and odd if he were German.
OK, without getting into a geek pissing contest over who the most obsessive Terminator fan in existence is, I've spent a frightening percentage of my life collecting, studying, and pondering all things Terminator. It doesn't speak well about me actually having a life, but having consumed every script rewrite, novelization, production note, and version of both films that's available to the public (as well as a bit or two that isn't), I do feel that I'm qualified to speak on this subject with some authority.
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First off, there is no firmly established cannon for the Terminator series, and there are enough conflicts between differing versions of each movie to prevent one from being able to point to the movies as being the final say. With that said, the most internally consistent tellings of the Terminator story seem to be the novels by William Wisher and Randall Frakes.
Both are very close to the films, but with much more background detail and making a bit more logical sense. The T1 novel is based on the shooting script for the movie, while the T2 novel was based on a pre-production version of the script that had a couple of last-minute changes and edits before it became a shooting script- mostly for budgetary reasons and to make the final scene a bit more climactic on screen.
That having been said, here's the reason why there are multiple Arnies (in more detail than you probably ever wanted. Sorry.)
Skynet patterns the terminators to look like normal (albeit somewhat large) humans. Whether it uses real humans as the pattern (as indicated in the "Infiltrator" novels) or makes up original designs on its own is never firmly established- probably a bit of both. Regardless, it clearly can't make them ALL look just like Schwarzenegger- it would be way too easy to spot them. (In T1, Reese mentions to Sarah that he couldn't ID the terminator until it made a move on her.)
For the sake of efficiency (and to allow Arnie to be both movies), Skynet compromised- it made 10 copies of each "flesh persona", which would then be scattered around to different locations to prevent identification of duplicates. The terminator that was sent back in the first movie was the first of it's type, leaving 9 more just like it in the vault when Skynet was shut down. The human resistance came in, grabbed the next one off of the rack, and programmed it to be John Connor's protector in the second movie. Again, this is all detailed in the T2 novel, as well as in the original script for the movie. (Originally the future war scene at the beginning was supposed to be much longer, with more exposition and featuring a few new pieces of Skynet hardware (glimpses of which can still be seen in the T2 arcade game and pinball machine), but it would've broken the budget of the already very expensive movie.)
Of course, the writers are really under no obligation to keep the story consistent for the third movie, but I certainly hope that they do so.
As a side note, in the novel they DID pull the wrecked arm out of the machinery and melt it down also. I don't recall if that was actually part of the original script or not.
As an additional side note (sorry, I'm obsessive), the full nomenclature of the Arnie/Terminators that we've seen is the Cyberdyne Systems 800 Series Model 101 Version 2.4. (Watch the deleted chip-switching scene from T2 on frame advance when he reboots and you'll see what I mean.) The 800 series refers to the basic endoskeleton type. We know that the 600 series had rubber skin, and that neither the 600 series nor the 700 series was well armored- either could be taken out with a few well-placed shotgun blasts at close range.
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Model 101 is probably just that- the hardware model version (possibly general body type), and v2.4 is most likely a software/firmware version. I don't imagine that Skynet would encode the flesh persona's ID into the BIOS, particularly since a significant percentage of endoskeletons had no flesh at all, and were simply the foot soldiers in Skynet's army.
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OK, I'm off the soap box now. I'm gonna go take my meds.
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