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The Costs of Patching

prestidigital writes "vnunet has a brief but interesting article in which Craig Fiebig, general manager of Microsoft's security business unit, is quoted as saying "In dollar terms, patching is the most expensive security measures and keeping your antivirus descriptions up to date is the least." That seems like an important statement coming from a company who's patches are possibly responsible for 45% of traffic on some networks."

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  1. Patching has saved my hundreds of dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rather than throwing away an otherwise perfectly good pair of pants, patches have allowed me to fix them and extend their life. In some cases, patches can even be fashionable. Sewing is a great skill that all geeks should learn.

    1. Re:Patching has saved my hundreds of dollars by Ravenscall · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, it certainly is more socially acceptable than damning them

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    2. Re:Patching has saved my hundreds of dollars by iabervon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pants are easy to patch, and well worth it. All of the Microsoft systems I've tried to patch have gotten really screwed up as soon as I stuck the needle through them...

  2. Patches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Using the patch is about as expensive as smoking, but will be more benificial in the long run because after a while, you'll be done with the nicotene forevar and not need to buy patches no more.

  3. interesting debate by ih8apple · · Score: 4, Funny

    This document was part of an interesting debate over the last year and a half between MS and Novell over whose product was more buggy (measured in terms of number of patches.)

    (Google cache version in html.)

    1. Re:interesting debate by zero-one · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yup, that document was funny. I liked this bit: "Additionally, Novell has neglected to be clear about the fact that GroupWise runs on Windows NT and Windows 2000, so patches that apply to Exchange customers also apply to GroupWise customer running a GroupWise system on Windows systems". So Microsoft are arguing that Novel haven't taken full account of the security issues due to Microsoft in a report bashing Microsoft. I am not sure that is an argument that Microsoft should be shouting about!

    2. Re:interesting debate by pmz · · Score: 2, Funny

      (measured in terms of number of patches.)

      The number of patches must be the worst possible metric for measuring bugs. A better measure is: (several bugs per 1000 lines of code) X (40,000 thousand lines of code in Windows) = over 100,000 bugs in Windows. Thus, it follows that (100,000 bugs/installation) X (100,000,000 installations) = 10,000,000,000,000 Windows bugs worldwide.....OMG, the plauge of the apocolypse is upon us!

  4. Lamers by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    Pff.. you lamers with your fancy-pants Windows or your free Linux or *BSDs are all clueless. I haven't patched my Apple ][+'s DOS3.3 for 20 years and it still has yet to be 0wned.

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  5. The most expensive security measure is... by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Funny
    Relying on Microsoft products for your security.

    rim-shot

    Thank you. I'll be here all week. Tip your waitresses.

  6. Re:Lamers - Oh Yeah? by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Try to enter today's date in Appleworks.

  7. Re:ummm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Good to see that the subscription service kept the shit from rising to the top (or first, however you want to look at it).

  8. Re:Also known as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or "why buy the cow when you can get the sex for free?"

  9. Re:Well then... by Bendebecker · · Score: 3, Funny

    And maybe I should spend more time proofreading my own posts so that I don't mangle words so much!

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  10. Re:Lamers - Oh Yeah? by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Yeah and? Today is Thursday, May 1 10003.

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  11. Re:Wow...it took them this long... by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this going to be how they justify paying for huge license fees?

  12. Re:NEW MATH by clambake · · Score: 4, Funny

    responsible for 45% of traffic

    But spam is responsible for, what was it Taco, 60% of traffic on networks?

    I'm at 105% utilization already!


    Didn't you see that the article was about Microsoft? I'm sure there is at least SOME overlap in the spam/patch metrics.

  13. Re:Cost of not patching? by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny
    Fist a high level person
    Yeah! That's right! Fight the power!
  14. Re:NEW MATH by BrynM · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Bad code" is a patentless technique used ubiquitously.

    Quick! Get Bezos! We've got to file a patent on Bad Code before anyone else does!

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  15. patches hurt people too by dwgranth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, I can attest to this... patches... especially ones that screw up systems not only cost time/money/bandwidth but they cost HAIR.. yes thats right... admins lose their hair b/c of the stress this makes them go through..... ::looks in the mirror:: arrhhggghh..

  16. Re:Wow...it took them this long... by vsprintf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, I know, maybe Microsoft could do these new things called DESIGN REVIEW and CODE REVIEW, rather than trying to test out bugs.

    You must have missed it. After Bill declared a new focus on security, they did a code review -- one month of review for twenty years of code. The next code review is scheduled for 2022. :)

  17. Re:Cost of not patching? by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is just a simple fact that UNIX is less complex than Windows.

    Microsoft's R&D department is laughing at you.

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  18. But you forgot... by dorfsmay · · Score: 2, Funny

    apt-get moo

    I have to do it once in a while, I always get a good laugh !!