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Projector Torture Test: LCD versus DLP
An anonymous reader writes "A ten month torture test of five LCD and two DLP projectors shows LCD images deteriorate during extended use." Not surprisingly, if you run an LCD projector for 4000 hours, it deteriorates... of course, if you're staring at a projecter 8 hours a day, for 500 straight days, maybe you should go outside ;)
The LCD isn't deteriorating after 4000 hours, your eyes are.
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Does this happen with LCD monitors as well?
> if you run an LCD projector for 4000 hours, it deteriorates... of course, if you're staring at a projecter 8 hours a day, for 500 straight days, maybe you should go outside ;)
But there are plenty of applications for these things where the display is permenantly turned on - think of a store display - or an airport information system - or high end adverts. In those cases, running 24 hours a day is very likely - and having the damned thing fail after a mere 166 days would suck badly!
It would have been nice to see the lifetime of large plasma panels in the survey too.
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If I leave one image sitting on my LCD projector too long, yes, it will burn in a bit. But the burn in goes away after other images are shown. Typical desktop use gets no burn-in, while long bouts of Shadowbane will leave little yellow pock-marks when the fixed menus are. This goes away after browsing the web a while.
The problem with DLP projectors like the one my roomate bought is the "screendoor" effect that makes it look like you are viewing the image through a screendoor: little black boxes around every single pixel. This is an effect that is there from day-one and never goes away!
Will my LCD eventually get permanent burn-in? Perhaps. Still it's better than the screendoor.
we also have a DLP project or aswell.
the company, actually the whole industry would like to switch from film to digital projection to save cost.
Guess who is pretty much the only player in HIGH powere digital technology, you guessed it TI. TI makes the DLP projectors we all enjoyed watching StarWars/Disney animation on. Now you say that some project running for more than 5000 hrs is never going to happen at your housse, or maybe at your office but consider this.
our current project with bulbs, can go for about 8000-10,000 hours before the bulbs needs replacement. so we got through about 2/3 bulb a years per projector.
but only switch the bulb.
now the problem is that if after 8000 hours we have to switch more than just the bulb
(which is the case when a digital project goes bad if you ever owned one)
then this could really hurt TI in getting the theathres to switch over.
and the "bright light" is really the paramedic's flashlight as he checks your ocular dilation.
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According the to article, "TI and Munsell ran the projectors continuously 24/7, replacing bulbs as needed. Each projector was stressed continuously for thousands of hours."
There really wasn't much information provided on the methodology in this article. Did they leave just the one image or did it shift thru? Were any of the projectors shut off at any point (besides changing bulbs)? What were the conditions of the room/area in which the projectors were stored - ventilation, sunlight, etc.?
How many purchasers of projectors are going to use them non-stop? Just imagine such a stress-test of your Intel or AMD processor - 8000 straight hours of 100% CPU activity. I'm sure that could burn out a processor that would survive 8000 hours of activity without a hitch. The longevity of the LCD monitors may be much better than this implies -- which could be better tested under "normal" conditions.
My last thought is that I don't completely trust a "scientific" test done by a company to show the advantages of their own system.
I was taking one day at a time, but then several days got together and ambushed me. (from a Rhymes with Orange comic)
And, they are right.
The lamps degrade over time, as well as the panels.
I see so many projectors fail due to non-cleaning.
panel overheats are an issue... because no end user really owns a projector, they usually use one at work and none of these people bother to clean the units filter.
This just adds to the speed of the failure. most projectors I see have failures of the lamp and ballast units before the panels, probably because I get these downed projectors, find them filthy, clean and repair them before it kills the panels.
I have seen many, many kinds of projectors in both LCD and DLP, and the ones that seem to last longer are DLP units.
LCD units start biting the bullet after 3-4 years and usually after 2 years the image quality is starting to degrade.
My recommendation to anyone that has ant of these projectors is to clean them regularly, allow them to cool properly (another BIG problem) and, replace the lamp after the recommended usage.
some are 3,000 hours... some are 2,000...
If you do not replace the lamp after the usage limit, you risk an exploding lamp, damaged ballast, or main power supply. if its a DLP unit the color wheel can be shattered by an exploding lamp. I have had to replace quite a few of these because of this.
The projectors I find that fail the LEAST are made by Sharp and Toshiba. these are well made units that have lifespans of 10 years or more.
I see 10 year old sharps all the time. altho, the panels are about wasted.
Remember, keep the filters clean, allow the units to cool properly and change the lamps when recommended, and your unit should function for many years before needing service.
I hope that someone finds this infoarmation informative and useful.
The short answer is that there's a small panel (DMD, digital mirrored device) with one tiny mirror per pixel (aka, over a million). Each mirror is individually motorized and flutters back and forth. One position reflects the light from the bulb down through the optics and to the screen. In the other position, it reflects the light into what's basically a light absorber.
Total light output is modlated by how much time the mirror is in the on position. The can each litterally flutter on and off over a thousand times a second. On dark areas of dark scenes you can see little scintelations of when individual mirrors flutter to the on position for a fraction of a second.
The fancier projetors have a light beam that's broken into red blue and green which then bounces off of three DMD panels before being recombined. The cheapie (less than $15K) ones have just one light beam that passes through a color wheel.
The color wheels typically have either RGB, RGBW (white), or RGBRGB. Better projectors have the RGBRGB wheels and spin at a higher rate. The result is that the projector winds up displaying a red image, a blue image and a green image in sequence. On fast moving items certain people (like me) are suscepible to seeing the different colors individually unless they spring for a higher speed color wheel, a triple DMD projector, or some other technology like LCD.
One last tidbit on the color wheel is that there is a new scroll color wheel coming out where at any given time there is a red, blue and green section being displayed over one third of the screen. They look like a pinwheel or one of those swirly lollypops. The trick to them is that the colors are actually dichoric mirrors so that only one given color light passes through while the other colors are then reflected back and hopefully recycled through one of the other two colors. It should more than total brighness while also lessening the effect of a slower speed colorwheel. Should be interresting.
Big displays run continuously in control rooms and advertising applications. There's thus a market for long-life displays. Unlike home and conference room environments, silence isn't as critical. So aftermarket cooling solutions might actually sell.
Fucking bullshit. Even if you watch TV (yes *gasp* in color) 12 hours every day, this amounts to a yearly dosage of about .5 uSv. Just for comparison, the average natural radition dosage (sun, cosmic radiation and incorporation of radionuclides) at sea level is about 2400 uSv/yr and travelling in an airplane for 50 hours a year would give you an additional dose of about 300 uSv.
Did you know you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil?
http://www.optomausa.com/DLP_demo/example_third_pa rty.htm
Basically a square of very tiny reflective mirrors with a spinning colour disc to colour the light they reflect.
DLP = Digital Light Processing.