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Credit and Free Software

Hans Reiser - you're thinking ReiserFS, and you'd be right - has a proposal to slather Free Software with credits for its authors. Good? Bad? This is something the community has generally moved away from, but maybe Reiser has a good point. Newsforge is part of OSDN.

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  1. the purpose of free software for many IS credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I know quite a few people who have written second rate software under Free licenses for nothing more than a bit of prestige and something to write on their CV. Indeed, even some of the more major F/OSS contributors seem to take development as a career advancement/fame trip.

    I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this, mind. I just want to remind some of the zealots that writing Free software is often not the selfless idealistic cause some make it out to be.

  2. Re:Points not to be discounted lightly by usotsuki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Help\About

    Nuff said? Nuff said.

    (FreeGEM Desktop does about the same thing under Desk\Info)

    -uso.

    --
    Dreams, dreams, don't doubt dreams, dreaming children's dreaming dreams. Sailor Moon SS
  3. Re:Points not to be discounted lightly by UtucXul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Last I checked, the man pages of nearly all software show the authors' names. And most of the time, it is a program's web page that people need to go to for help pr useful info, and those are always filled with names of people who worked on it. I don't see why we need much more than that.

  4. Oh please by Fefe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reiser has already lost countless users for his software because he started polluting the kernel messages with "a message from his sponsors".

    He should be more concerned with the quality of his software, not with his ego problems. Personally, I find this disgusting. If someone wants to know who wrote the software, he can read the README or ask google.

    I don't even have the slightest reference in my free software source code that point back to me, I don't even use huge copyright comments in my software like the GNU project generally does, and yet people have offered me jobs and asked me about my software many times. In general, the people who want to know who wrote the software, do.

    Those who try to rub it in their face all the time will cheapen free software for everyone. It's like the "I'm so important!1!!" freeware movement from MS-DOS, and I barely remember a single author from all the software that rubbed their copyright messages it in my face all the time. In contrast, I even learned to know several free software authors personally!

    Hans, people are losing data with your file system. I know because I did. Twice. Then I looked at your fsck code and it stunk to the high heavens. You should be concerned with that, not with putting your name in the face of more people.
    And what would be the next step? To insert a few seconds delay so people have a chance to see your messages better? Puleeze!

  5. "Linux software" ??? by semanticgap · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: I propose that we as a community insist that all distros make the default screensaver be one that randomly displays a different detailed credit for one of the authors of Linux software every 60 seconds.

    Erm.. Is Python or Perl or Apache or Emacs - "Linux software"? What about FreeBSD or OpenBSD - that's hardly "Linux software"...

    I'm surprised to see someone as knowledgeable as Riser make such a blunder - or is it intentional?

  6. This is not about fair credit by John+Ineson · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "This is why distros drop the K from all the KDE programs: somebody else is trying to establish a brand name, and that is a market threat they want to cut off."

    Have no illusions -- this is what Hans Reiser is worried about, his business. The morality of giving credit-where-due is a red herring.

    The debate that sparked this off was Debian removing 20-something lines of crap about sponsors from mkreiserfs. That scares him, because it weakens his power in promoting his sponsors and his brand.

    To which I say tough. The GPL was written to ensure that users could make software serve them. If a GPLed program spews unhelpful messages, then anybody has the right to remove them. Incidentally, it's undoubtedly justified in this case, when there's a screenful of rubbish, and the program is regularly used in stressful, recovery situations, potentially on a terminal with no scrollback.

    Nobody, I imagine, advocates removing authorship credits entirely, but the GPL does not guarantee free promotion for your company, sponsors, or anything else. If that's what you wanted, you were plain stupid to choose the GPL in the first place.