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CIA and Military to Have U.S. Snooping Powers?

Mr.Intel writes "The NY Times is reporting that 'The Bush administration and leading Senate Republicans sought today to give the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon far-reaching new powers to demand personal and financial records on people in the United States as part of foreign intelligence and terrorism operations.' Although the measure was beaten back in committee, it appears that the administration is not satisfied with Patriot or Patriot II type powers..."

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  1. Where's the well armed militia? by Rares+Marian · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The second amendment has been neutered by uses against purely violent threats.

    I thought it was supposed to help us defend against a corrupt gov't.

    I say the hell with the guns. Every home should have a legal counsel fully loyal to that home's interests with local, state, national, and global expertise.

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    1. Re:Where's the well armed militia? by knobmaker · · Score: 4, Interesting
      What the hell does anyone think a bunch of rednecks with guns can do against that?

      A bunch of peasants armed with little more than rifles kicked us out of Vietnam. Furthermore, studies have predicted that only slightly more than half of our soldiers would obey if ordered to fire on their fellow Americans. The remainder who aren't good Germans would, presumably, mutiny.

      Read up on what a few urban Jews with small arms did during the reduction of the Warsaw ghetto. Had the European Jews of the late '30s been armed as well as the average redneck, there might not have been a Holocaust.

  2. some nice inside info on CIA dirty tricks by bodrell · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The title is: The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence by Victor Marchetti and John D. Marks. New York: Dell Publishing, 1975. 397 pages.

    Very interesting, because so much of it was censored, and the authors chose to leave blank space in the parts that were censored. Sections that the CIA wanted to ban, but a court ruled had to be allowed, were printed as boldface. Next time somebody tries to give you bullshit about how our government does what's best for the people, refer them to this book, written by former CIA operatives. Most interesting is the connection of Latin American coups with US business interests (e.g., United Fruit Company).

    Oh, and if you're looking for a politician who stands up for his principles, and for civil liberties, read up on Russ Feingold (Winconsin senator, Dem.), co-author of McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill, and ONLY senator to vote against the Patriot Act. I'm no Democrat, but if he runs for pres., I'll throw my vote his way.

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