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Still More on Connecting Laos

Rackemup writes "A story on Wired has some updated information on the progess made by the Remote IT Village Project attempting to connect several isolated villages deep in the Laotian Jungle to the rest of the world using wireless networks, pedal-power and Laonux (customized Linux installs translated into the Laotian language). Power surges can be a hassle when the nearest computer store is hundreds of miles away, but they're shooting for a May 18th "go live" date."

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  1. waste of money by YllabianBitPipe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even Bill Gates knows this: you'll get more bang for your buck if you give people in third world countries food, water and decent health care, then decent places to live, then decent jobs, transportation, education, basic human rights, THEN television and the internet. Otherwise I fail to see the purpose of this other than a novelty act so some people can get their project in the paper.

    1. Re:waste of money by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      not true.
      You can educate yourself on how to do thse thing via the internet. WIring to the internet gives people the opportunity to make ther eown money. It enables them to set up a paypal account so more people can donate money for those things. IT allows the users to find orginization to help them get immunization. teach them proper water handling, and purifing techniques.
      They can fight for basic humn rights, they can orginize.

      Have people become so complacent with porn and mp3s that they have forgotten the real power of the internet is empowerment?

      OTOH I suppose this village could host a porn site.
      we got the same thing as all the other porn sites, but your 20 bucks a month helps feed our children. heh.

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  2. Re:802.11b? by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 3, Interesting
    802.11b can handle essentially infinite distances provided (line of sight anyway) if:

    a) you have large-enough antennas at each end

    or: b) you don't have any equivalent of the FCC hassling you if you go slightly above the power limits

    Distances of 70+km have been achieved.

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  3. It would be so much better if... by image53 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...these guys actually knew what they were doing.

    I first heard about these guys on slashdot last year. I went and worked with them in Laos. And, what I thought was a bad situation went from bad to worse.

    Sure, Laonux is cool -> anything to make technology accessible to more people. But the whole remote IT project was fundamentally flawed.

    No planning to speak of. No actual understanding of the conditions. No testing. No risk analysis. And a manager with a head so into marketing he couldn't get his nose out of it for long enough to realize that he was biting off more than he could chew. All he saw was an opportunity to make money off of it for his foundation.

    It was essentially conceived as a vehicle to do a couple of things:

    Obtain fortune for the techies working on it. Obtain fame for the JHAI project in lao to get it more funding. Turn into a business opportunity for everyone when it was hugely successful.

    The first launch was a complete sham (and a failure) -> there were invites sent out to everybody and their cousin months before the launch date. At that point, nobody'd even bothered to try out the software involved on the eventual hardware. It failed essentially because they hadn't bothered to test it out. And, because the "lauch date" was so all important, instead of finishing it, everybody went home!

    This would have been a cool idea if:

    It had been planned in an effective way by people who had a clue.
    It had been made to benefit the Lao people instead of the people making it.
    If it had been built as something to last, instead of the best that they could come up with.

    Now, they're trying to do it again. But, they still haven't spent the adequate amount of time planning and testing, and yet they're setting a launch date and inviting all the relevant people. And it's going to fail.

    My guess, is that they'll have the whole thing work, limpingly, on the launch date. Then, nobody will be around who can actually maintain it, and it'll all break down within 4 months. All that effort wasted, and everybody who's been a part can put it on their resume and say "look, I've been selfless." Because they've put no resources into training people, or into any kind of backup. They're just doing like the dot com's... waiting for the crash, but completely surprised when it happens. Either that, or it'll be so buggy that nobody will ever bother using it.

  4. Re:Censorship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's not quite true: cf Amnesty International's Report on Laos. http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/laos!Ope n

    "Freedom of expression, association and religion continued to be severely restricted. Strict controls on information prevented adequate international and local monitoring of the human rights situation. At least three prisoners of conscience and two political prisoners remained in cruel, inhuman or degrading conditions of detention. People continued to be arrested and harassed for their Christian beliefs. The fate of protesters arrested in October 1999 and November 2000 remained unknown. The death penalty was introduced for drug trafficking offences."

  5. Power surge? by NaveWeiss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The article didn't explain what kind of power surge was that.. I mean, I'd have understood if it was a normal power surge due to an electricity grid problem or a lightning, but the guys are using a bycicle as a generator. How can you make a power surge with that?

    I think that powering it with a bicycle is a silly gimmick anyway. They should use solar power like normal humans do.

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