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Transmeta OK'd for Mira Displays

viewstyle writes "eweek is reporting that Transmeta's Crusoe chip has been approved by Microsoft for use in the Mira smart displays -- a move that further edges out AMD and Intel from the mobile processor marketplace."

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  1. Interesting by Zebra_X · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft has been showing less and less interest in being an exclusive "partner" with our good friends at Intel... Maybe MS is taking the Tel out of WinTel.

  2. Intel's Not Out Yet by rsmith-mac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't count out Intel quite yet. The Pentium-M is still one of, if not the best mobile pure x86 processors out there. The rumor that Intel is additionally working on an ultra-ultra low-power version of the chip(600mhz, smaller L2 cache) would further prop themselves up in the Mira market, with their brand name tagging along for the ride. Transmeta has had a lot of problems so far breaking in to the US market, and I don't see them winning that easily so soon, especially with Chipzilla on the lookout.

  3. Re:Funny how... by Sheetrock · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Essentially, they're displays that you can tote around the house/office that maintain a wireless communication with your PC. I imagine it's kind of like VNC on a tablet PC.

    What they're talking about here is giving the display some processing power of its own, so that it's more like a laptop that runs a terminal off of your main computer. If you're doing something on it, it won't cause your main computer to slow down (much), whereas the smart display uses a lot more of your computer's resources. Doesn't sound like a huge deal to me, except that it should be cheaper and more portable than a laptop.

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  4. Dumb display by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't get this "smart display" business. It sounds like a display with a CPU, some memory, and a wireless network interface, and a battery. In other words, it is a full-blown computer. Maybe (probably) the operating system is crippleware, but it sounds to me like you could put some proper software on there and use it like a wireless X11 terminal. Bonus: remote X11 users don't "monopolize the PC while they are running".

  5. Transmeta earnings show stability, success by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The net revenue for Transmeta in 2002 was $14.1 Million (1.5 Q1, 6.4 Q2, 6.3 Q3).

    So far in 2003, Transmeta has reported a net revenue of $6 million. (these numbers taken from Transmeta press releases)

    These numbers are paltry compared to the industry giants Intel and AMD (especialy Intel), but they do reflect stability and massive growth since Q1 2002. No, Transmeta is no direct threat to Intel or AMD, but they deserve to be taken seriously nevertheless. The underdog is always forced to innovate, and market hype can swing an extra $2 to $3 million in revenue towards a company like Transmeta. Remember, we all laughed at AMD, too.

    As for all of the negative comments, cmon, what do you expect? This is Slashdot afterall, and the creator of Linux works in a rather prominent role at Transmeta. This is exciting and encouraging to us Linux geeks.

  6. I know the feeling by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    At my old job, the entire web design, programming, and graphic design departments exclusively used Macs. I hated them for a long time (they were tough to integrate solidly into Netware networks back then, and some of our custom software ran like a dog on them - I know, that was our fault, but hey). However, after working in research for a while and getting to know OS X, realizing it's solid stability, and getting the hang of the interface and configuration, I really respect it's designers and can see the potential that the next generation of Mac operating systems hold. I love the dual G4 we have in the office now.

    The price gouging of their hardware, however, is just too much to bear. They are great for people that need them for very specific purposes (much like Linux, as a matter of fact), but the price of the hardware is just way too much for me.

  7. Re:My coworker is getting a free upgrade over AMD by SwellJoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Compaq just has a habit of making laptops that overheat, and attempting to beat the customer into submission with sluggish support people who make you go through the whole rigamarole every time the box breaks again.

    I had a PIII laptop a few years back that went in for service five times (and cost me about two man-weeks of support phone calls). I finally gave up, and sent certified letters to the president, and VP of the laptop division. A couple of days later (I lived in Houston at the time), the laptop division guy called, apologized and sent us the next model up (with DVD upgrade, faster CPU though it was a Celery that ran cooler) the next day.

    I won't complain too much, because I'm still using that same laptop. Though the battery life is slightly less than 23 seconds, on a good day. (Ok, seriously, the battery lasts about 20 minutes, and never did much better than that, even when new.)

  8. Overpowered? by mrklin · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While Transmeta Crusoe is lower powered (both in terms of electrical and processing), isn't it an overkill to use it to run Windows CE when a myriad of lowerer-powered chip (MIPS, StrongARM, etc) will do?

    By the way, the C3 chip produced by VIA Technology will do the same job just as well.

  9. VIA has more CPU market share than Transmeta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But... Linus works for Transmeta so lets get excited about Transmeta... and compare them to Intel and AMD...,

    VIA @4% market share

    Transmeta less than 1%

    Lets try to remember that despite all the good intentions, design wins and Microsoft approvals won't keep Transmeta afloat... sales will.

    VIA will probably knock Intel out of the desktop market before Transmeta knocks anyone out of anywhere :)

    Transmeta is hemorraging cash far faster than their revenue is growing. If they don't pull something out of their sleave but quick, they won't be around long enough to realize any of their code morphing dreams.

  10. Re:Not exactly. by cookd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, this is still true.

    Transmeta is now "edging out" (or perhaps more accurately "edging in on") Intel's StrongARM processor, not Intel's x86. Transmeta is putting the x86-compatible Crusoe in places where previously only embedded chips like ARM and MIPs were thriving. (Though the NS Geode has already made some inroads...)

    To boldly go where no x86 has gone before... :P

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  11. Value chains and commodity goods by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    When you have a value chain, such as the one that goes into a PC (processor, mobo, memory, video card, OS etc) then there is a specific amount of money available per final unit sold. If you are in that chain then you want as much of that money as possible. The more that the rest of the chain takes, the less there is available for you. So you, along with everybody else in that chain, want two things:
    1. You want your component to be a high-priced proprietary item with no alternatives.
    2. You want everybody else's components to be low value commodities so that their prices go down and their profit margins get squeezed.

    In the case of Intel and MS, both Intel and MS want there to be active competition for the other. Hence MS will support competitors to Intel in order to drive down CPU prices, and Intel will support Linux in order to drive down OS prices. Both will support a multiplicity of mobo makers, hard drive makers, video chipset makers and anyone else in order to keep those areas as low-priced commodities. I suspect that the current duopily in the graphics chipset market is causing both of them some concern. If either Nvidia or ATI win the bulk of the market then they will be able to start charging proprietary prices (to some extent they already are at the higher end) and thereby take away money from both Intel and MS. From the POV of ATI and Nvidia of course they want lots of competition for both Intel and MS, which helps to explain why both of them are taking the trouble to support Linux when the Linux share of the desktop graphics market is still under 1%.

    Paul.

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