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Earthlink Deploying Challenge-Response Anti-Spam System

deliasee writes "The Washington Post reports that Earthlink is preparing to offer new spam filter technology that requires sender authentication. AOL is still concerned that such technologies will put too much burden on consumers." The day after it's deployed, every legitimate mailing list on the planet will get challenges from all the Earthlink subscribers...

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  1. Nice moves by hendridm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was hoping more ISPs would adopt the challenge-response system, like MailBlocks, previously featured on Slashdot. Way to go Earthlink! If I was interested in dialup, this would be a big selling point for me. I'm still waiting for a service that offers the challenge-response feature of MailBlocks but allows me to forward to my existing provider. I mean, a 12MB inbox is pretty lame. There are free providers that can give me that much space...

  2. Michael's comment by Rev.LoveJoy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is true, but perhaps it illustrates an opportunity for developers of mailing list software more than it exposes a flaw in Earthlink's plan to thwart spam?

    As a network admin, many of the remote users I support (sales reps, on-the-road types) use Earthlink dial-up while travelling. At times, some of the program's that Earthlink has used to stop people from using their services to spam have make my job harder. However, I do not begrudge Eartlink for these inconviences, at least they, as a major ISP, are doing *something* about this problem.

    My two cents,
    -- RLJ

  3. Re:Correction by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Spammers seem to be sending a whole bunch of crap from my address (ed@membled.com) even now. At least, I keep seeing what appear to be genuine delivery failure notifications of Russian spam sent from my address. Any system which trusts individual email addresses, without relying on some real authentication such as PGP signatures, is broken.

    A simple rule is: Headers can be forged. Don't trust anything in the headers for antispam purposes. This includes the sender and recipient.

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    -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
  4. Adaptive teergrubing anyone? by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Instead of challenge-response (putting the burden onto the end user), why not put the burden on the inbound mailserver?

    A residential broadband customer mailing through his ISP's mail server is whitelisted (most stuff from that server is nonspam). An rr.com luzer with an open proxy is tarpitted into oblivion (everything else in 24.0.0.0/8 is spam). Yes, Joe Linux running (non-relaying) Sendmail on his Linux box is also tarpitted, but he's not trying to send a million mails a day. So he's not hurtin'.

    I can see a scaling problem in that you'd have to run some sort of adaptive filtering process on the receiving end, which might be prohibitive CPU-wise. OTOH, if you only scanned 1% of all inbound mails for "spamminess", you'd still rapidly figure out that for a US ISP, 24.0.0.0/8 is an ocean of spam with a few islands of real email, and 200.0.0.0/7 is a shitstorm of spam. You don't need to analyze every inbound mail - you only need a statistically-valid sampling of the inbound mail queue to figure out which netblocks are teh sux0r.

    Having it be adaptive would be cool - because a South American ISP (which probably has less of a problem with 200.0.0.0/7 than, say, Earthlink does, because they have legitimate users emailing each other from within those netblocks). So an ISP in .mx would end up with a different set of teergrubing weights. They might end up letting most of 200.0.0.0/7 in, only tarpitting the worst /24s, and teergrubing all 24.0.0.0/8 because so few of their users get anything but spam from rr.com netblocks.

    Think of it as combining the best part of SPEWS (naughty netblocks are noticed semi-automatically), without as much collateral damage (if you're an ISP, a 10 second delay to anyone emailing one of your customers from a naughty netblock will never be noticed, but it'll *kill* some dirtball trying to spam to 10000 of your users through an open proxy.)

  5. Re:How do two people with C/R communicate? by 1729 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You can't have an automated challenge/response system, because that defeats the point.

    That's not true. There is an approach where you show a "proof of computational effort"; that is, your computer spends 10 or so seconds computing the response to a challenge. Here's a paper on the subject.

  6. Um, the blind? by cnoocy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So does this mean that if you're blind, you don't get to send mail to C/R users? Another hurdle for blind users is just what the net needs.

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    This sig is not the Zahir. Lucky for you.
  7. Blindness by druske · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If the challenge is based on an image ("please respond with the fuzzy word in the subject line" or somesuch), where does that leave vision impaired email users? How do they respond to a challenge to get their email delivered?