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Prince of Pop-ups
Ric writes "From the article lead paragraph: 'If you hate pop-up ads, you might blame Brian Shuster. A long-time figure in the Internet pornography world, Shuster recently received a patent for the ad format and is now looking to make some money off the sites that use it. And that's just the beginning - Shuster has a long list of pending patents, including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off.'"
what the porn business needs are more ron jeremys. men with ethics, morals, and nicknames shared with sega mascots. i have no love for this popup chap.
"Life is great; without it, you'd be dead." -Harmony Korine
"You are WRONG. A VAST VAST majority, almost ALL people, DESPISE these pictures and websites. Slashdot's audience is totally typical, and they are ABSOLUTELY and totally OUTRAGED and APPALLED."
Wrong about what? I said THAT pic wasn't illegal. For that matter it is not even a "barely legal" pic as you label it. It is an innocent pic that you have put a very nasty, ugly spin on. Look in the mirror.
Are you now speaking for the 10 million people that watch this show?
"...almost ALL PEOPLE..." Where do you get the numbers to back this up?
I have said some sites are bad. Yes, some will be busted. You say ALL sites are bad. We disagree.
I appreciate your post. I did go back and read my posts. I am sorry to anyone who thinks I was attacking them or being cruel. Although I don't think any of my posts were deleted - so maybe I was not overly vicious :)
This may be a bit emotional to me also. I am a friend of the family of one of these girls. She is 17 and has been doing her own site for two years. She and her family are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life. I got involved to help her with facial expressions and body poses as I have some background in the theater. The young lady does not do webcam chats, auction clothes, but does receive email. When she does email one of her guardians is always there to screen the email first. It is funny, but when I look at her photo sets I always look at photo composition and her face for the expression. Maybe I am naive, but I see a teen who has increased her skill in front of a camera and grown tremendously through this experiance. It has never seemed "dirty" to me.
Why does this make me emotional on this board? I have read some of the posts, not all. There simply is not enough time. When someone posted more than a few times I tended to see what they had to say. I understand how people can be upset, and I understand the desire to change the law, I certainly understand the desire to protect children.
I think I have responed to a few who have called for new laws and/or Draconian legislation or who had a point that may have needed clarification.
My position has been and still is: -Put age limits on site. Pre-teen sites should be eradicated, but the age limit may not be as high as 18. -no auctions, webcam chats or interactive email -certify and license the phgotographers, webmasters, and owners of site. This would include background checks.
I simply do not believe that every site is evil. Some are bad, some are very well done, and there are a great many that fall inbetween. It is not all black and white.
For this stance and my posts I have been vilified as a child erotica promoter, an old man (ouch that hurts), a liar, an excuse maker, stupid, etc. No one stepped up to say 'wait a minute let's talk about this - tell me more' instead I was attacked and ridiculed. As you can see it didn't shut me up - I can be as stubborn as the next person.
I had exchanges with one mom who I thought we were just exchanging thoughts, I did not think she was offended by my posts. We simply agreed to disagree.
Flamebait? How the fucking hell is pointing out that people who engage in behavior such as blocking ads are STEALING content -- FLAMEBAIT!?
Good god damn cocksucking hell, just because I use colourful language, it doesn't mean what I am saying is a fucking troll or fucking assed flamebait!
Moderators, stick THAT up your ass and smoke it.
I am not saying that at all.
I certainly do not expect any or all content on the web to be free. As i am fully aware of the cost of operating a resource to provide to others - what I am saying is that my machine and bandwidth are not resources that I am supplying to marketers for ads and popups.
Its one thing to place a webserver and content on the web for people to see - and to seek and come to on a voluntary basis. Its another thing entirely to push your content to them and force them to see it - and to consume their resources (bandwidth and cpu) in order to force your content to them. Its also another level of that to do so in a manner that cannot be turned off.
Dont confuse a person/company providing content on the web - and having content forced down your pipe.
Take this example:
I pay SBC for $65 / month for DSL. I have a Yahoo mail account. SBC and Yahoo offer incentives for DSL users to sign up for DSL cobranded by them in a cheaper package. I have had my Yahoo account for almost 8 years now, and I have had DSL for 4. The SBC/Yahoo "partnership" now checks to see if I am logging into Yahoo from an SBC DSL provisioned IP - then redirects me to a full page ad before I have access to my yahoo account. Esentially hijacking my connection in order to FORCE me to watch or interact (close) an ad. I did not sign up for the Yahoo/SBC cobranded DSL - I certainly did not receive the incentive of a discount on the cost of DSL, yet - I am still subjected to push marketing - and both companies claim "too bad"
This is the type of ad force feeding that i think should be illegal or at least provide compensatory incentives for people. at a very *minimum* it should provide an OPT OUT. which currently it does not.
so, like I said - the content on the internet should not be free, but if you are going to force content on me - you damn well better make sure I want it, am compensated for it, and have a way to avoid it. permanently. period.
If I agree to get your crap push mind-waste, by EULA or otherwise fine, but if I do not then I should be free to enjoy a happy, ad free online experience.
Why do you call me a troll? Why not offer a simple reply to my statement rather than an implicit insult. I did nothing to you so why are you being rude to me?