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Xbox Hacking Book Prepares to Fly Off Shelves

SecurityFocus posted an article today about a new book that covers hacking the Xbox. The book's author, Andrew "Bunnie" Huang, reports that it's selling well, even though the release date has not yet arrived. Presumably, this is because the book covers soldering techniques and adding features like blue LEDs and modchips to Xboxes, most of which violate the DMCA. If this stuff is interesting to you, you can order a copy from Huang's site. It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores.

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  1. The heart of the debate? by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I find it amusing that the open source crowd shows such great interest in a closed piece of hardware, hardware that is defended by DMCA-supported lawyer jargon and manufactured by "The Great Satan" of digital freedom. It goes to show you how strong and creative this community is, and highlights upon some of the beneficial fundamental values that the open source crowd holds: freedom and expression in computing. Sappy huh. =)

    At the heart of the modding debate (or very close to it), I think that Microsoft wants to prevent hacking and modding of the Xbox because it reveals to the consumers the true identity of the Xbox: a PC that is being sold far too cheaply; an entry into the console market that would be completely unsustainable if Microsoft were not a monopoly (I.E. able to sustain gross losses in many other markets in order to direct/force attention back to their OS and Office suite).

    1. Re:The heart of the debate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

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      You may settle this case out of court by agreeing to pay us an unspecified sum of our choosing and signing a non-disclosure, indentured servitude agreement. If you refuse, I remind you that our legal staff is large enough to fill a football stadium but smart enough to know better than to go out in public together.

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    2. Re:The heart of the debate? by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find it amusing that the open source crowd shows such great interest in a closed piece of hardware, hardware that is defended by DMCA-supported lawyer jargon and manufactured by "The Great Satan" of digital freedom.

      I find it even more amusing that after 5 years under the DMCA, someone still has the cojones to basically thumb his nose at "The Great Satan" of digital freedom.

      I think that this only helps further the idea that if the various media/software companies do not provide what the user wants, the user will figure it out for themselves. When the bottom line of company Y starts to really shrink, they will provide the customer with what they want to maintain the revenue stream on related products (think IBM and SUN selling and supporting Linux so that they can keep selling servers).

    3. Re:The heart of the debate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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    4. Re:The heart of the debate? by pjt48108 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I do not find it so amusing as all that, simply common sense. It seems to me that a closed-source system, to an open-source zealot, is like an unreachable itch: the longer it itches and the less reachable it is, the more tantalizing it becomes. Also, on a fundamental level, the Xbox is just a fancy-schmancy basic PC with artificial blocks on it to prevent anything but limited use of it. All told, the above adds up to a very enticing temptation to open-source muckers-about.

      What I find amusing at best (and sad at worst) is that the DMCA was passed by our "Elected" representatives in DC. These same people who are telling YOU (and me, actually), the American voter, not to pay "...any attention to the man behind the curtain," are the same ones you BLITHELY allowed to attain their post, either in an act of omission ("I forgot to vote" or "I was too busy") or comission ("I voted for Congressman X, but I didn't know that a kneejerk fundie neoconservative would actually FOLLOW THROUGH on the slow REPEAL of the First Amendment!).

      Suck it up crybabies: you let Congress take away your toys, now you have to play with the leavings.

      Ok... setting cynicism to off...

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    5. Re:The heart of the debate? by nathanh · · Score: 4, Funny
      I find it amusing that the open source crowd shows such great interest in a closed piece of hardware,

      Hi, this is just a reminder that a crowd is, by definition, more than one person. The concept of different people having different opinions must be new to you. Please learn more about this concept. Thank you.

    6. Re:The heart of the debate? by ibsteveog · · Score: 5, Informative

      The old "all consoles sold at a loss" myth... The best truth is told here: acts of gord, proclamation 2!

  2. R-Type by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Funny

    $6,000 worth of R-Type stickers, racing stripes, sparkling paint jobs, loud exhaust pipes, and annoying Chinese characters that most likely mean "Stupid Round-Eye" serve no beneficial purpose to a $5,000 Dodge Neon either, nevertheless, they adorn the vehicles of 17 year olds everywhere.

  3. Heh. by numbski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only part that violates the DMCA is the part that describes how to circumvent copy protection schemes.

    That's the reason Microsoft will want him to hang over this.

    It's also the reason someone has to do it. Someone has to stand up and show how insane this all is. Too bad someone has to martyr themselves in order to get the point across. This guy will ruin his fiscal life in the united states.

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  4. Wait a minute by s20451 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the book banned, or the techniques the book describes? There's a big difference.

    Clearly, the book is not banned, since it is being published directly by the author. However, from his site, the book was not picked up by a publisher for fear of lawsuits. That's somewhat alarming, but it's not equivalent to outlawing a book.

    Actually, there are plenty of "survival" manuals and whatnot out there that describe all kinds of illegal activities, so I would be surprised if tort law could be used to terminate publication of a book (because if it could, it would have been done already in other contexts). However, this doesn't mean that the threat of lawsuits could not be used as a scare tactic.

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  5. talk about political corruption and errosion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    of consumer rights. If i want to buy an XBox and void the warranty, it's my right to do so. On the other hand, if I was being unreasonable, like modding an XBox and then demanding Microsoft provide support for it, the manufacturer would be right.

    Microsoft has every right to void the warranty if I purposely modify the box. What they don't have is the right to demand I don't violate the EULA and void the warranty. I hate to say it, but corporations should be banned from donating money to political parties or candidates. If a company wants to push their own agendas, they shouldn't get a free write off. Instead, they should have to pay their employees, who then donate the money. This means, for every dollar a company spends to buy votes, they have to pay taxes on it. I have no problem with companies like microsoft buying influence in the white house as long as those purchases are taxes at 33%.

  6. re: censorship by scubacuda · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores.

    If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all--Noam Chomsk

    Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself--Salman Rushdie

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  7. DCMA, what's next? by deathcloset · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is modding your X-Box illegal under the DCMA? I don't doubt that somehow it is (Frankly I wouldn't be suprised if having a dream with a top 100 song in it is illegal too) but is it only illegal if you actually use it for infringement purposes, or is the modification of the device itself illegal?

    if the actual harware mod is illegal then WTF? I should be able to do whatever I want with my hardware (physically). I bought it, I own it. I can hit it repeatedly with a bat If I wish. I can dunk it in a bathtub full of milk, I can throw it through any window in my house I so choose (That is if I own the house, but If I have enough income to fill a tub with milk then I think I would have enough money own the house (maybe in this example I own a barn)).

    1. Re:DCMA, what's next? by Bendy+Chief · · Score: 4, Informative
      Modification of an X-Box, namely, with a modchip, constitutes a form of copy-protection circumvention, which is an offense under the DMCA. By installing your modchip, you circumvent bootup routines contained in the BIOS ROM which prevent you from playing pirated games, installing Linux, etc, etc.

      The proprietary Microsoft BIOS ROM is what this whole DMCA spectre revolves around. You own the box but not the ROM inside. It's not your right to modify it. (As dictated by law. I'm all for mods)

    2. Re:DCMA, what's next? by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had that circumvention thing done to me when I was a baby... And *now* they make it illegal?!...

      Damn...

    3. Re:DCMA, what's next? by Bendy+Chief · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IANAL, but as I understand it, any act preventing their BIOS from running in exactly the way they intended is a violation. It doesn't matter what you do afterwards. (Unless that's further criminal activity)

      Furthermore, I am not a US citizen (Canuck), so I haven't researched the DMCA as exhaustively as I might otherwise have. Still, I believe it's as draconian as I implied above.

    4. Re:DCMA, what's next? by Lochin+Rabbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The notion that the restriction of which software you can run on the X-Box is a red herring designed to divert attention from what, in the EU at least, is an illegal restraint of trade. The BIOS protections are there too ensure that no software producer can sell software that runs on the X-Box without handing over a significant proportion of its revenue to Microsoft. By the time the distributor and the retailer have added their markup to this extorted sum the end customer is paying a lot of money for the game, and the profits of the games manufacturer are being squeezed. The piracy issue is irrelevant.

      As to the ROM I have every right to modify it long as I don't do so for the purpose of copy-protection circumvention, since the X-Box is designed to run software not to copy it this is a non issue. What I don't have the right to do is to distribute copies of the modified ROM, though I can distribute patches for it.

  8. Auto Makers by kUnGf00m45t3r · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just wait, pretty soon automakers will start using the DMCA to keep you from repairing your car yourself. That way you have to take it to an "authorized repair center".

    1. Re:Auto Makers by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I saw on TV a few weeks ago where a car shop somewhere installs MOD chips that turns kittens into tigers.

      The chips apparently modify the fuel injection system, pollution control, timing, etc.

      It used to be to hot rod a car you installed goodies like NOS injectors, turbo chargers, Holly four barrel, etc..
      Now you replace the factory chip with a "HOT" mod chip..

      I don't see the car companies invoking DMCA to stop that..
      What the hell is the difference?? mod chipping a car to run better vs. mod chipping the xbox to run better (replace M$ w/ Linux) ?????

      Screw them...

    2. Re:Auto Makers by jpetts · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see the car companies invoking DMCA to stop that..
      What the hell is the difference?


      Perhaps because Joe Sixpack would easily be able to understand that his rights are being violated in this case?

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  9. Bans and Stuff by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores.
    If GM or Ford had an automotive equivalent of the DMCA, they certainly could ban service manuals. The fact that they don't have oen and don't want one should be a lesson for media and software companies.

    American auto manufacturing started out as a small, boutique industry. Henry Ford changed all that by assuming (correctly, as it happened) that ordinary people would buy cars if he made it practical for them to own them. Part of this was inventing more efficient manufacturing techniques, so he could sell cars more cheaply. But he also specifically encouraged the aftermarket car parts industry, even going so far as to choosing his own manufacturing techniques so that they'd be easy to copy. Thus somebody with a broken Model T didn't have to send away to Michigan for parts. This relationship extends to this day.

  10. Nope! by Erwos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores."

    I'd argue this is more like a book about how to defeat car alarm systems. If it was "how to repair your X-Box", I don't think we'd see this controversy.

    -Erwos

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  11. Illegal Acts by Detritus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I own several books that give step-by-step instructions on how to commit acts that are felonies under federal law. The authors and publishers have a first amendment right to publish this information, even if acting upon it would be a crime. Why should a book on hacking the xbox be any different?

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  12. BOOKS CANNOT VIOLATE THE DMCA by autopr0n · · Score: 4, Insightful

    God damnit people, if you're going to rail against something, you should at least learn what it actually is. The DMCA explicitly excludes speech from being outlawed. The issue with DeCSS was wether source code should be considered 'speech' or a 'device'

    A book is obviously not a device, and it is protected by both the 1st amendment and the DMCA itself!

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  13. "Ban" is relative by fm6 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Clearly, the book is not banned, since it is being published directly by the author. However, from his site, the book was not picked up by a publisher for fear of lawsuits. That's somewhat alarming, but it's not equivalent to outlawing a book.
    Well, in the strictest sense, there are no book bans in the U.S. The First Amendment doesn't allow them. (Well, mostly. There have always been exceptions. But these have gotten few and farther over the years.) But if you can make it impossible for people to buy something, you've banned that item, no matter how you go about it.

    You refer to tort law. That's certainly a factor. But the DMCA provides for criminal prosecution of violators. If nobody is willing to publish, or even self-publish, books on hacking this or that because they don't want to go to jail -- well then, that kind of book is banned, whatever you call the process.

  14. uh by autopr0n · · Score: 5, Interesting

    None of it violates the DMCA. Books are not devices. They do not violate the DMCA. Ever.

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    1. Re:uh by zurab · · Score: 5, Insightful

      None of it violates the DMCA. Books are not devices. They do not violate the DMCA. Ever.

      It's easy - DMCA - Sec. 1201:

      (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof that--

      `(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological protection measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;

      Emphasis mine. Books qualify as products, don't they? I think free speech violates DMCA - that's the problem.

  15. Flying Off Shelves by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Flying off shelves? How can it fly off shelves if it's being sold direct by the author? Wouldn't it need to be sold in bookstores to be capable of flying off of shelves?

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  16. Wrong, the DMCA does not outlaw information by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Informative

    > the issue is distributing information about how to bypass copyprotection which is very illigal just ask the poor guy who made decss.

    No. 2600 got in trouble for distributing the source code for DeCSS because the source code (while information, at some level) is a "circumvention device" (according to the judge). The functional aspect of the code (once run through a compiler) was key to this. It would be difficult to argue that a book is an actual "device," and the DMCA does not ban anything (relevant) other than the act of circumvention and circumvention devices.

  17. Freenet by someguy456 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So how long before it appears on freenet? Not only would it be pirated, but it's content might not even be illegal (sorry, no time to read article). This would be a perfect opportunity to use freenet. Free speech! Free Books!

  18. Dead Tree Publishing Get Mo Bettah Rights by cmholm · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Mr. Huong will do just fine with his book. That the publishers he's contacted won't publish is a roll. I think they just don't want to deal with such a limited printing, and the fear of lawsuit is a good excuse.

    While the DMCA makes it easy to shut down a web site, the US Judiciary is VERY leary about restraint of dead tree writing and publishing. IMO, Mr. Huong getting a pro-bono defence would be easy, since any attorney should/would know that a form letter with a law office header is about all that's needed to fend off anything short of a libel suit or national security issues.

    For instance, printing and selling a magazine with DeCSS source code is no big deal, but if the same people put links to the electronic version on their web site, it is. As long as the "Anarchist's Cookbook" is still on the shelves, "Hacking the Xbox: an Introduction to Reverse Engineering" hasn't got a problem.

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  19. Car repair manuals by saihung · · Score: 4, Funny
    It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores.

    What the...no! No! I was only adjusting the carburetors! Nooooo!!!!!

  20. Car service manuals don't tell everything by bagofbeans · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned, yet car service manuals can be sold in most bookstores."

    Not really. The Haynes manual for my Chevy Malibu does not even admit there's a harness for the seatbelt alarm (and other alarms), so I can't disable it without trial and error.

  21. Re:War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is. by Minderbinder106 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Liberal Democrats??? How about the entire Senate. Link

  22. Banned books... by djupedal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It amazes me that a book such as this could be banned,

    I guess you're too green to remember Abbie Hoffman's "Steal This Book"......and a bit too charming to know that this kind of 'publicity' helps to sell such books.

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  23. What if Ford did this? by bear_phillips · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The car service manual analogy is interesting. I wonder how the public would react if Ford sued Chilton, using the DMCA? There are plenty of aftermarket carbs, cam shafts, mod chips etc for cars. What would prevent Ford or GM from applying the DMCA on aftermarket parts manufacturers?

    Ford has a copyright on the engine design and wants to control access to the design. By taking an engine apart you can thwart their control and get the engine design. They bolt the engine togther pretty tight, so that is their copyright protection.

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  24. Why I won't purchase an X-BOX by diabolus_in_america · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've seriously considered buying an X-BOX, and I almost did on a couple of occasions, but I've decided against it for now. Here's my reasoning.

    I am not an open source zealot, but I do have serious concerns about many of the projects that Microsoft has on the horizon, such as Palladium, the whole Trustyworthy Computing scheme, and Microsoft's push toward their proprietary Windows Media format. I see the purchase of an X-BOX as a $200 endorsement of Microsoft. And that's not something I am comfortable doing.

    The whole DCMA debate leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I follow most of the discussions pertaining to the DCMA on Slashdot. In fact, it seems like the X-BOX is the focal point of much of the DCMA debate on this site. And while I agree that the DCMA is a terrible piece of legislation, I don't see the logic of buying and modding an X-BOX to protest the DCMA. It seems like the easiest thing to do is to avoid the DCMA entirely, or at least, to avoid the corporations that use the DCMA to prosecute consumers. I can render Microsoft's enforcement of the DCMA moot by not purchasing an X-BOX. If I want to hack around on a console, I think the best choice is a Dreamcast. I can run NetBSD on it, and since it is no longer a revenue stream for Sega, they are not going to go to legal expense of throwing the DCMA at enthusiasts who hack around on it.

    Microsoft is making it difficult to buy an X-BOX without also making additional purchases, namely X-BOX Live! Some of the newer games, and especially many games on the horizon and in development, will simply not be playable without an X-BOX Live subscription. There is also at least one game out now for the X-BOX that virutally requires the purchase of an additional controller which costs nearly $100.00. It seems that this is a trend that Microsoft will continue. And it's a trend I have no desire to endorse.

    Simply, I can write all of the vehement arguments I want against Microsoft and the DCMA. But if I were to open my wallet and plunk down the cash to buy one, I'd feel very hypocritical because the best way for me to protest the DCMA is to avoid the X-BOX altogether.

  25. Free pre-testing of Palladium by hargreavesd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Xbox hacking is funny, but it just shows microsoft how to make the secure PC truly secure - the Xbox hackers are gradually teaching them about all the glitches, so they can produces something uncrackable in the future.

  26. What about by Stonent1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you unsoldered the bios chip that contains the boot code and mailed it back to MS. Does that mean you have the legal right to do anything you want with it at that point? Since there is no licensed software in it?

  27. Re:Read it again by zenyu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it says nothing about your rights of free speech or the press concerning publishing in a dead-tree format.

    I used to think so too. But then 2600 got blocked from publishing decss, and then even linking to pages publishing decss. There was a reason the new york times spoke up for the magazine, I assume it's the same reason they no longer link to related sites in their stories, but instead inconveniently write out the URL as if it were text. The DMCA ended 'free' speech in the USA. The party is over, all consumers please return to your assigned duties, we've got a war with the Canadian aggressors to organize.

  28. Why they don't want anyone to know the deal. by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because then they'd realize they could use it for things and in ways that don't make Microsoft money. As long as Microsoft maintains the illusion that the X-Box is only good for playing Microsoft approved games, it can make up the initial loss off the games, and the X-Box doesnt compete against regular computers, another Microsoft revenue stream.