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What Subnotebooks Work Best w/ Linux?

elliotj asks: "With the widespread adoption of WIFI, I'm finding more and more places where I'd like to use the Internet on the road. All I really need is a linux command line to run SSH, links, and a few other things. What I'm looking for is a very lightweight subnotebook with a long battery life, quick sleep/wake times, that can run Linux and WIFI. I've looked at the Sony picturebook line and the Toshiba Librettos. Both are sweet machines, but have more features and are more expensive than I really need. Are there any cost effective options out there?"

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  1. The Zaurus? by nemui-chan · · Score: 5, Informative

    i know the Zaurus isnt really a subnotebook, but it falls between the subnote book and the pda category. It already runs linux, is easy to develop for, and is easy to port existing linux applications to. If you know QT, its also easy to integrate existing apps with the GUI that comes preinstalled. Best of all, there are open source projects to replace the OS of the Zaurus with an open source version. Also, sharp's technical support is very good, and the staff very friendly, and they usually hang out on #zaurus on irc.freenet.net

  2. As I said before by Apreche · · Score: 4, Informative

    I gots a friend who has a fujitsu lifebook. He runs Debian, and it is mad crazy.

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    1. Re:As I said before by Longstaff · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'll have to second that. I picked up a Lifebook P2120 just under a month ago. The thing rocks. 6 hours of battery life with the high cap batt - 12 hours if I swapped out the DVD/CDRW for another batt. Integrated wireless. 5.1 channel digital audio. To top it off, it only weighs 3.4lbs. Makes my 12" ibook look like a big, bloated beast.

  3. iBook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Get yourself an apple ibook... it has a very efficient battery. OSX is BSD based... if you don't like that then run over to yellowdoglinux.com and pick up a copy.

    1. Re:iBook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Too expensive? The 12" iBook starts at $999. And another thing, why run yellowdog on it. I know the original poster said he wants Linux, but OSX does all of that just as well as Linux ever could.

      SSH - Got it!
      Links - I've got it running on my powerbook right now courtesy Fink
      Quick sleep/awake times - 1 second flat. I've never seen any other laptop sleep/wake that fast
      Long battery life - I get at least 3.5 to 4 hours out of my powerbook
      WIFI - Oh yeah, that's built in.

  4. OpenZaurus by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Informative

    OZ 3.2 just came out, and has a slew of features that rock vs. the standard ones, such as:
    variable RAM vs. storage allotment
    writeable flash
    new SSH installed by default
    ability to sync to anywhere, not just your local USB

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  5. Used Libretto's by mcSey921 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can be had on Ebay for $100-200. This is the solution that I went with for a WiFi subnote to test our network.

  6. Along the lines of the Zaurus... by pr00f · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I run Familiar on my Compaq (now HP) iPaq handheld. Very sweet. Get a PCMCIA sleeve, a wireless card, and you're all set. For those of you doing wireless security work, Kismet runs beautifully. There's also a GTK or Qt base available for you developers.

  7. more details by zogger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    probably people need two more criteria. What is the budget in terms of $$, top end, and do you need a real keyboard integrated?

    Without knowing those things, I think that any notebook or subnotebook (really no industry cutoff point there I think, it's a matter of taste) used that has a known track record of running and installing linux easily will narrow it down, then look at that list for best battery life. Virtually all decent used notebooks nowadays accept pcmcia cards, so wireless is just a matter of putting the appropriate card in.

    Also, you have to ask yourself, is one or two lbs difference really a deal breaker? You might be able to get a pretty decent machine if you are willing to lug around 2 more lbs in gross weight. It seems like every pound subtracted from a "normal" laptop costs another 500 bucks or something like that and makes it harder to see and use. Me, I'd just as soon hump the extra weight and have a bigger screen and bigger battery, etc, for cheaper cost. For your needs, the older and slightly heavier used laptop would be cheaper to buy, then you could spend the savings on more ram, the wireless card, etc. Anything 200 mghz or larger runs linux in graphics mode just fine with enough ram, so text mode should be a piece of cake.

  8. Sharp Actius MM10 by dhwang · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out the Sharp Actius MM10. It's basically a 10.5" screen and keyboard with integrated wi-fi. Just over 0.5" thick, 2.1 lbs and fanless. I saw it at Fry's for about $1300, but if you just want a machine that is basically a wi-fi terminal, this is the one for you.

  9. Re:OQO by OwnerOfWhinyCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While those are very cool, and I want one just for that reason, there is no keyboard on that toy.

    Since the poster specifically mentioned:
    All I really need is a linux command line to run SSH, links, and a few other things.

    Then I'll wager no-keyboard is a deal breaker.

    If you really want to run a command line comfortably, I'd suggest you bump up to the "small notebook, of previous generation processors" category. I just sold my Armada M700 series laptop, and I think it's lesser brothers might be a good match for your needs. The M700 was a true platform in that they had a large range of processors and ram that fit it. So compatible accessories abound on ebay.

    Since they were targeted at the corporate types they have good docking station integration, and most importantly although there are an abundance of modern slip in peripherals (like a DVD/CDRW combo drive) the ones with the 400Mhz processors run XP like slugs so the corporate types are getting off them quick. This gives you a rare combination of "older laptop prices" but modern laptop battery and peripheral capability.

    This one here. Will probably sell for $270. It's PII 400Mhz processor will run a LowProfile Linux very well, and then you get multiple xterms per screen (which is always cool when your admin-ing). Cooler still you can slip out that nearly useless DVD drive and slip an additional battery in, and get excellent run times. Which you'll need for 1500 .ogg files you'll still have space for.

  10. Averatec 3120V by prostoalex · · Score: 4, Informative

    This baby has been selling at Best Buy for $550 after rebates, which means that a lot of those items would be popping up on eBay brand new and sealed. It's a subnotebook from Sotec, a good Japanese brand, that's apparently trying to wage a price war on the US market.

    I was able to boot up Knoppix CD with no problems, brought networking up and was capable of playing MP3 and MPEG video files. Have not tried installing Linux on it, but the assumption is it would go fine, since everything worked in bootable-CD version of Knoppix.

  11. Linux Laptops by mcelrath · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you intend to run linux (and only linux) on this laptop, I strongly encourage you to buy from a vendor that will sell you and support linux on it. Do not send any of your hard-earned money to the monopoly in Redmond for a product you will not use. Vote with your dollar or there will be no linux laptop vendors.

    I have collected a list of vendors and some other information on the subject. Unfortunately this information is rather difficult to find. If you know of other vendors not on my list, please reply!

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