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Hubbard Asks FreeBSD Hackers To Rename EDOOFUS

MobyTurbo writes "Jordan K. Hubbard, on instruction from Apple, had to inform the freebsd-hackers list that the error, pointed to by the error message number named EDOOFUS, must be changed. Several interesting suggestions have been made in the resulting thread."

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  1. Article in case of slashdotting by icemax · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Now, before I start here, let me just acknowledge up-front that what
    I'm about to raise is prime bike-shed material of the first order. It
    is a matter so trivial that it's not at all unreasonable to expect
    every man and his dog in this project to have a strong opinion on it,
    so in the name of bandwidth conservation and all that's holy I merely
    ask you to honestly ask yourself "do I really, truly care about this?"
    before sending off your personal 500 word screed on the subject that's
    to follow. Finally, and just for the record, I'll note that two of my
    dogs pretty much agree with me on this and the third, a small white
    poodle with an attitude problem, honestly doesn't give a damn and
    indicated as much by merely showed me his teeth when I asked him about
    it.

    With all that out of the way, I'll get on with it. Here at Apple we've
    been merging this and that from FreeBSD, as is our usual custom, and
    today several engineers saw something go across in a cvs merge commit
    which raised more than a few eyebrows and led to various queries as to
    the origin of the following new errno in FreeBSD:

    jkh@freebsd-> grep DOOFUS /usr/include/sys/errno.h
    #define EDOOFUS 88 /* Programming error */

    Doing a little digging, I also see that a certain Dane is responsible
    for both the original commit on 2002/08/09 and a spelling fix to it on
    2002/08/21 (I guess the OED is pretty clear on the spelling of
    "doofus"). Most of you who know me at all will also know that I'm
    hardly the most reverent or humor-impaired person you'll ever meet and
    I certainly got a chuckle out of this when I first saw it, just as I've
    gotten a chuckle out of various man pages and function names in FreeBSD
    which showed that the programmer responsible for them was at least
    enjoying his or her work at the time. I'm all for that, particularly
    in situations where a developer or user has to go well out of their way
    to get offended by something and therefore isn't exactly an object of
    sympathy.

    This, however, is a little more in-your-face than something like the
    infamous "die_you_gravy_sucking_pigdog()" function in shutdown (which I
    successfully defended when it came up) since it sort of makes an
    implied statement about the developer's competence, rightly or wrongly,
    and is far more likely to propagate into other code since if there's an
    errno value returned by something then it also needs to be checked by
    the client code. From the corporate perspective, and corporations are
    infamous for not being particularly inclined towards humor, this is one
    particular little "easter egg" in FreeBSD that sticks just a little too
    far above the ground to lend a professional image.

    So, to make a long story short, this is one small area where Apple's
    going to have to gratuitously diverge from FreeBSD if it remains this
    way and I frankly hate that idea since it just makes diffing things
    that much more annoying and for reasons which could be best and most
    accurately described as "silly." That said, I'm sure the reactions
    of the various people reading this will still vary between "who gives a
    damn what Apple thinks of our errno values?! Get a life, Apple!" and
    "yeah, that's a pretty silly errno value and in rather colloquial
    english at that, let's pick a more descriptive name like ``EUSERERR''
    or something which makes any code using it more clear."

    I'm naturally hoping that more people will be of the latter opinion and
    we can just change it and move on, one more gratuitous and unnecessary
    code fork thus averted, but if the group consensus is that we should
    get bent and simply change our own value to one which potentially
    offends our developers less (or remove it entirely) and not bother the
    FreeBSD project with such requests, I'm willing to live with that too.
    I had to at least ask, however, rather than just making the change
    unilaterally on our side... Thanks, and let the bikeshed building
    begin!

    --
    Jordan K. Hubbard
    Engineering Manager, BSD technology group
    Apple Computer

    --


    __________
    Love conquers all... except CANCER
  2. do I care about this? by martin · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No I don't but I do care about the next story with SCO spreading FUD about use of linux...

    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/14/ 20 53236&mode=thread

  3. Anyone else? by rumpledstiltskin · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anyone else initiallly read the blurb as the scientologists trying to worm their fingers into yet another issue?

  4. insulting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From what I have heard of Steve Jobs, this is quite a bland insult compared to how he has insulted his staff.