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Linux Desktop Without X11

A writes "Rocklyte systems have announced the first version of their Athene Operating System. It is a desktop and embedded operating system built on the Linux kernel, but without the "aging X11". Instead, it uses the SciTech SNAP graphics system with which it is possible to completely re-theme the desktop to look like the famous AmigaOS GUI or another famous UI. For backwards compatibility, an X11 server is also available in the system. The system can run completely off the CD, without needing to be installed on the harddrive."

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  1. Old sztuff repackaged by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hmm, I've been using an embedded linux with a NON X gui for at least 2 years now....

    it's called picogui

    Plus you dont have to buy it, and it's much smaller.

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  2. Re:something i always wondered about by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do you realize that most of X being "slow" is really XFree86 being slow.
    In fact some X servers for Linux are FASTER than Windows.

    Check out the benchmarks

  3. Really? by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Informative

    With Windows, every version retains legacy compatability for almost all applications written for a previous version.

    When Rob Short, the vice-president of Windows Core Technology, was asked, "How many applications will transfer over from [Windows] NT4 or 2000 [to Windows Server 2003]?" he answered: "I'm not sure what the exact number is for taking an NT4 application and running it -- it's in the high 60 percent. It's not 90... Most of the time, if the application is following the [security] rules then it will run. But I must admit the rules haven't been well publicised."

    Full Windows backward compatibility is a myth.

  4. Re:something i always wondered about by tuffy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even Xfree86 isn't all that slow - so long as it's got decent drivers to work with. But people tend to load lots of Gnome/KDE stuff to get their machines to look/act more like Windows, then complain that their machines run at Windows-like speeds. But X11 is easy to blame because few understand what it is or what it does; kindof like a "not invented here" syndrome for the open source world.

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  5. Re:something i always wondered about by tuffy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Excuse me...but I run both Win98SE and Redhat 8 with Gnome, and I can truly say that Windows is the faster of the 2.

    That shouldn't be too surprising, since Win98 is 3-4 years older than Red Hat 8. Gnome (and KDE) has added *a lot* of stuff since then that'll make your system crawl. But to get an idea of how fast X11 itself is, try making a dummy account with a .xsession (or .xinitrc on occasion) file containing the lines:
    #!/bin/sh

    twm &
    xterm

    Make the .xsession file executable and then login to the dummy account. (The account will log-out when you exit the xterm) I think you'll find the speed faster than Win98, and I hope it'll demonstrate exactly where Linux's desktop slowness comes from.

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