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Fizzer Worm Uninstalling Itself

boredMDer writes "According to a recent update on the Dshield.org mailing list, apparently the Fizzer Task Force has gained control of the Geocities webpage from which Fizzer updates itself. From an IRC-Security mailing list: 'We have also postted a Fizzer cleaner to the actual URL that the bot downloads its updates from, as a self extracting and running executable.' The Fizzer-uninstaller posted there creates the file '%WinDir%\uninstall.pky', which then causes Fizzer to remove all of its registry keys. Looks like the Fizzer worm will soon come to an end."

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  1. Full Text of Article by insomnike · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just a quick note to say that we (we as in Fizzer Task Force/IRC Unity)
    now control the update page, and have posted a mirror of the
    http://www.debugoutput.com/fizzer.php site on the geocities website that
    fizzer uses to update itself.

    We have also postted a fizzer cleaner to the actual URL that the bot
    downloads its updates from, as a self extracting and running executable.
    We're crossing our fingers that the bots are looking for an executable
    to update themselves..

    We'll keep you updated..

    Regards,

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    1. Re:Full Text of Article by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

      How is automatically downloading a antivirus any more legal or ethical than automatically downloading a virus without user permission?

      I applaud the sentiment, but do the ends justify the means? I don't think Joe Slashdotter would be too happy with the idea of enforced antivirus affecting _his_ PC, for example if the government mandated it, because you can be sure that that precident would soon be followed by anti-piracy, anti-crypto, anti-free-speech, anti-everything-else in short order.

      I suppose you could argue that 'we aren't inserting the data ourselves, we just made it available' - but that's little more than sophistry.

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  2. Re:Huh? by Albanach · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not really, the worm initiated the connection from the user's machine, downloaded the software and executed it - it was pulled by the client not pushed by the server. So they don't run any software on people's computers, just some people have installed (intentionally or otherwise) a program that chooses to download and run this executable.

  3. No, this is different by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    The worm chooses to go and update itself form this site, this code is an update that tells it to die. So, fi you choose to run the worm, conciously or not, that worm will go get updates regularly, unless you do something to stop it. This particular update just disables it.

    Also, intent does factor in to laws. What you intend to do can affect whant kind of crime you are guilt of, or even if you are guilty at all.

  4. Re:Hacked into Geocities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    We now control the update page because a particularly observant FTF member noticed that geocities had deleted the page, and registered it for themselves. No hacking involved.

    Next time try doing a little research (like asking in the IRC channel) before posting.

  5. Fact Checking by Brightest+Light · · Score: 5, Informative
    Nicely done, Slashdot!

    Had anybody bothered following the link to the geocities page before posting the story, they would have seen that the file was "removed for the time being, until further testing on Fizzer's update routine can be done." There has been a great deal of argument in #fizzer as to the legality of such things, and I do not believe that the Fizzer Task Force as a whole decided to do anything of that sort.

  6. Re:Huh? by UnderAttack · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. You are not running the code. The worm downloads
    it from the site and runs it. You are just making the code available.

    On the other hand, according to a more recent report, this method does not seem to work for far for the fizzler worm :-(

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  7. Re:wtf? by Kingsly · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah considering the worm never really got anything from that site in the first place. because the geocities account never existed.

    From http://www.livejournal.com/users/kalyan/84241.html

    Pretty Interesting because this site does not exist and the username was never created with Yahoo!.
  8. Re:wtf? by Xformer · · Score: 2, Informative
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  9. Re:Ansivirus companies' advice by httptech · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why not just create the Uninstall.pky file? Seems like it'd be harder for a luser to screw up...

    That's actually what the de-fizzer executable was designed to do. Unfortunately, it looks like there are timing/logic issues with the update that haven't been worked out (different threads of the worm are run conditionally, at different times)

    Another vector that people (including myself) are working on is using the "PING" buffer overflow to launch the self-destruct mechanism from the IRC server.

    My submission:

    2003-05-15 16:36:12 Fizzer Worm Self-Destruct Sequence Triggered by Fizzer Task Force (articles,security) (rejected)

  10. Re:wow by vDave420 · · Score: 2, Informative
    just like if a fireman pulls a victim from a burning building s/he's a hero, but if John Q. Passerby tries to help he's arrested for tresspassing. Want to show a case proving this? Even vaguely?
    Withint the last two weeks here in Miami Florida, there were two seperate instances of this on the news.

    In one, a man jumped up(!) to a burning second story building to rescue a trapped dog that was barking for help.

    In the second, a man rescued a person.

    In both cases, they were arrested, and it made the local news. Now admittedly, they may (and probably will) be aquitted, but this is not the point.

    -dave-

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  11. Re:wtf? by clarkcox3 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Likewise, if these guys installed a hard-disk erasing program, KNOWING that infected computers would download and run it without the user even being aware of it, it would be a crime

    They didn't install anything on anyone's machine. They put something on a website. End of story.

    Good intention does not turn an illegal act into something legal.

    Yes it does, if I kill someone because I dislike them, that's murder. If I kill them because they were trying to kill me, that's self-defence. The only difference here is my intent.

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  12. Re:wtf? by enjo13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    More interesting, that guy is simply wrong. He lists the page as being:

    http://www.geocities.com/spkyupdate/upd1.jpg

    when in FACT the page is:

    http://www.geocities.com/updatesparky/sp1.7ls

    Of course, the detective work I had to do to locate this information consisted of READING THE COMMENTS from the actual page you linked to.

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  13. Fizzer is not Curious Yellow, but it's close. by nounderscores · · Score: 3, Informative

    as secolactico (UID:519805) pointed out, Fizzer could be upgradeded to a Curious Yellow class worm.

    And I worked out how to kill it in a post in the Curious Yellow Discusion.

    subsequent posters suggested that designing a worm using crypto and a truly distributed archetecture would make us a lot less smug in future.

    we've been warned folks. What are we going to do about it?

  14. Re: by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 4, Informative

    • All they're doing is putting a file on a webpage. It's not their fault that the infected machines run whatever is on that page.

      Generally, have illegaly used someone else's computer, you have to have defeated some sort of access control mechanism. At least that's how it is in NYS.


    Except that the "access control mechanism" is already broken. The [illegal] virus has already set up shop on that PC. The "fix" merely exploits the behavior of the virus to get a file onto you PC.

    Put another way: Just because you didn't create the *original* hole, doesn't give you *any* right to crawl into it on your own.

    Put another way: If your software ends up on my machine, ends up *running* on my machine, and I didn't agree to have it there, or run it, you're still in the wrong, no matter your intentions.

    So, for the sake of my argument, and because it's what the fix really is, I'm going to call it was it is: an EXPLOIT.

    Those infected with the virus are pretty fortunate that the folks who posted the exploit to the Geocities site were well-intentioned folks, instead of someone with more destruction in mind.

    Had a black-hat type gotten to the Geocities page first and posted an even _more_ malicious exploit, I have a feeling the opinions here would be very different. If it Were RIAA or the MPAA?!? Look out, man! The bitching and moaning would never cease.

    But, it's the whole road to hell/good intentions pavement thing. Eh.
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  15. Re:how is this ok and code green wasn't? by dougnaka · · Score: 2, Informative

    FYI, Code green was more like code red in that it actively scanned for vulnerable servers... but there were other ones that listened for code red attacks then counter-attacked and patched... can't find any now... work and all...

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  16. Re:Seems similar to RIAA requests... by dnoyeb · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those who missed the point, the issue is their access to the Geocities webpage, nothing more nothing less.

  17. Re:wow by budgenator · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is one documented case of HIV transmition through mouth to mouth. the carrier had severe periodontal disease,(bleading gums)

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