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Old Hard Drives = Free Electricity

tylernt writes "You know all those old hard drives you have laying around? (Raise your hand if you still have RLL or MFM drives... yeah, I thought so.) Well, now there's something useful you can do with them (besides my personal favorite, shooting them): make electricity! While you're at it, you could do something more productive with that old lawnmower, too."

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  1. Re:Say, I use an electric lawnmower by c0dedude · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know this is intended to to be funny but no, it can't. See the law of conservation of energy. You can't produce energy from a hard drive from mechanical means without energy change. You could try chemical change though. (burn it and use that to power mower).

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  2. Oops. Mirror here. by dsanfte · · Score: 4, Informative
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  3. Re:RLL or MFM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unfortunately for you, you have either far weaker magnets or none at all (of this type) in your older drive.

    I've harvested parts from lots of old computer equipment. Very old hard drives, like 10-30 mb drives, use stepper motor head drivers--like a floppy disc drive. Early voice-coil drives used large, but relatively weak, magnets. Newer ones use tiny, but incredibly strong magnets.

    Jim

  4. Whole Earth Catalog by handy_vandal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of course, the hard thing, as in all electric generation, is getting the generator to spin, which isn't done with the hard drives.

    True; the article doesn't address the issue of spin, other than the author used a small metal lathe to bench-test the alternator.

    It's not a ground-breaking invention, I'm sure this sort of thing has cropped up periodically over the decades in science fairs.

    And the author is selling magnets online -- let's not overlook this motive (though I think it's reasonable and I might do the same).

    But the article is engaging, and for those (such as myself) who don't know the details of building an alternator, it's a good introduction.

    Furthermore, the author states, right at the top:

    In the effort to build my own low RPM alternator for small wind/water power applications ...

    It's this laudable motive that makes the article worth SlashDot's time. We are (on a good day, anyway) the successors to the Whole Earth Catalog ....

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  5. Re:why on earth would I make my own generator by onomatomania · · Score: 3, Informative
    This guy enjoys tinkering around. If you read through his pages he's got all sorts of really old generators (1920s vintage) and you can tell that he enjoys rebuilding them and playing around. His projects are all geared around the idea of "what can I get for little or no money and some tinkering." For example:
    Here is a 1941 military "M-3" 3 phase 120 volt AC machine with a 4 cylender Hercules enging. I found this one about half buried in a hill-with trees growing through it. It wasnt seized, so I gave $25 for it. About 10 work on the carburator had it running well. I got 6 years of so of good service out of it-and gave it to a neigbor-who used it a bunch for a while-now its got a bit of a rod knock-probably and easy fix.
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    A good gas generator is critical to any remote power system. Portable generators are designed to be portable-not permanent. A good generator should run slowly, quitely, and efficiently. This page is devoted to some classic gas generators.
    He is obviously not the target audience for cheapo, portable, light-duty cycle generators. Sometimes it's fun to have a hobby, and he likes playing around with natural-power related junk.
  6. Re:New Zealand by Johnno74 · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you NOT following events in NZ, we're facing severe power shortages this winter.

    Down here we've not built any new power plants for many years, we've just had a severe drought over summer causing our hydro lakes to be nearly empty, and just to top things off our largest natural gas field has just started running out - several years earlier than expected.

    We've been asked to save 10% power, or we'll likely face brownouts, just as it gets freezing cold here. Yaaaaay.

    pass me the sheep.

  7. Ballistics correction by The+Tyro · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe you would be referring to a penetrator round, in the black or green tip.

    Incendiary rounds (sometimes referred to as explosive rounds) are generally used to detonate/set fire to something, and contain a core of some energentic, explosive substance (eg. fulminated mercury). The US military issues such rounds, in the .50 BMG caliber, to Explosive Ordinance Disposal folks to clear mines and other ordinance from a distance (by inducing deflagration of the explosive contents of said ordinance). Incendiary rounds are distinctly different from armor-piercing (AP) rounds, and are likely to be less effective on hardened targets, at least as compared to AP.

    To penetrate any substantial thickness of steel, a higher velocity round is typically required... preferably with a hardened steel penetrator at the core of the projectile. Note, however, that an AP round is not always required... a standard jacketed round of sufficient velocity will sometimes cause failure of the barrier steel through a phenomenon known as "plugging," but a hardened steel core greatly increases penetration. As a side note, armor piercing "teflon" bullets are not aided in their armor-piercing ability by their teflon coating... they are AP because of the hardened steel projectile, NOT because of the teflon. The teflon coating on such rounds acts as a barrel lubricant, and is designed to prevent the hardened steel projectile from damaging the rifling (land and grooves) inside the barrel. A standard steel-core AP round has a soft lead jacket around the steel core, obviating the need for a teflon coating.

    Depending on the composition of the steel, 3/8" may well resist an incendiary 5.56 NATO round.

    Just my ballistic $.02

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  8. Obsolete Alternator Experiment by Otherpower · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just logged in here for the 1st time ever. Someone posted about this webpage I made years ago (almost 4 years) here on this.... seemingly busy discussion forum! (and we had to bolt our server down!!!) This page is obsolete, I'll try to find the time to update it today. My new experiments with "homebrew electricity" are located at otherpower.com. Ive read a few of the comments and it seems many were thinking that alternator was a perpetual motion experiment. It was NOT!!! - the idea was wind power all along. But the alternator was impractical and ... even more badly designed than my more recent ones! (My more recent ones are very simple, but reasonably powerful and somewhat effficient considering their simplicity I think. The problems with that alternator were many... The coils were too long, and the flux from the thin magnets through the long coils was very weak, meaning more wire and high resistance. It was basicly too small to create useful qty's of electricity. The steel cores in the coils (there were 7) lined up perfectly with the the 14 poles in the magnetic rotors, so the machine cogged very badly - the blade for a small wind turbine could've never started. This also caused severe vibration. The plexiglass stator was not nearly strong, or heat resistant enough. Those were the main things... Although I think hard drive magnets could surely be used in this application, the alternator design is poor.... I do many things differently now. Again - my later efforts are on in the "experiments" section at otherpower.com. More recent, simpler, and

  9. Recognizing pollution sources... by Orne · · Score: 4, Informative

    So let me get this straight. You're going to take one of the most polluting combustion engines, and convert it into a 24-hour operating generator. Lawnmowers don't have anywhere near the filters that larger engines do and no catalytic converters to reduce emissions.

    "In the Swedish testing, the researchers used regular unleaded fuel in a typical four-stroke, four horsepower lawn mower engine and found, after one hour, that the PAH emissions are similar to a modern gasoline-powered car driving approximately 150 kilometers (93 miles). A typical push-type lawn mower is run for an average of 25 hours per year, according to the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute."

    So, running a lawnmower engine for 1 day is equivalent to the pollution put out by your average car in 2200 miles, about 2 months worth of standard driving.