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The Story of the tech.net.ru Crackers

tabdelgawad writes "The Washington Post is running a three-part story (Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3) detailing the events of the arrest of the two Russian crackers, Vasiliy Gorshkov and Alexey Ivanov, from a couple of years ago (See also Previous Slashdot Story 1 and 2). The writeup is light on technical details, but includes fascinating information about the crackers' socioeconomic conditions and motivations, as well as the competence and effectiveness of the FBI in combatting cybercrime."

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  1. Re:We still fighting the "Hacker" vs "Cracker" war by CurbyKirby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some of us are. Realistically speaking, usage dictates meaning. If everyone else in the world is going to think of hackers as malicious intruders, then so be it. Languages change over time, and computer jargon should be no different.

    I'm sure some people will fight for using the "correct terms." They are probably also zealots for their favorite text editor or Linux distro. I don't mind that they do it, but I won't do it myself.

    Fight the battles worth fighting for. Leave the H/Cr battle for someone else.

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  2. Re:socioeconomic conditions and motivations by theLOUDroom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    2. The Soviet Union dissolved in 1989. After 1989 there was no USSR, no repressive govt, no torture chambers for subversives or whatever else you might be implying.
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    The repressive state they were 'a product of' ceased to exist when these boys were 13 and 8.


    While the USSR no longer exists, it would be silly to think that everything that it had done was magically undone the day it ceased to be.

    I suggest you take a trip to Berlin, stand at Checkpoint Charlie (or anywhere else along the wall), look left and look right.

    I did this last Spring, on Spring Break. It's a very powerful experience. I was too young to understand the full implications of what was happening when the wall fell, but today I realize that the effects of the USSR live on and will for quite some time.

    Whether or not the grandparent post was trolling, it's resonable to consider the USSR's effects on the people it controlled. It made a lasting impression on many societies.


    Think about this one: How long did it take after abolition for the status of blacks in America to change? Where those born 20 years after abolition, able to live their lives blissfully unware that it had ever happened?

    Maybe societies don't change instantly, even if you'd like to think so. If you want an example of this in relation to the topic at hand, I suggest you do a search on the word "propiska."

    Here's a link from about a month ago.

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  3. Re:True Patriot Act! by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    terrorism spawns where political goals can't be met by other means (trying to get something into the public knoweledge or trying to force the majority into something else by terror, or by fighting the oppressing force using unconventional means that cause terror).

    common criminals spawn of poverty and possibilities, much like in usa too.

    however theres a very thin line between criminal and legal person russia.. chances are that to do ordinary business you will have to be at least partly criminal(bribe & etc).

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  4. Re:Short Version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one deserves to be raped. Shame on you for suggesting it.

  5. Parent should be modded up by Hobbex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What kind of a barberous place has America turned into, when people getting raped as part of their imprisonment is considered not only acceptable (a ha-ha-ha standing joke for Letterman and Leno) but desireable?

    What other humiliating physical violence do we think criminals should be subjected to? Should the women get raped as well? Maybe this should be institutionalized, so we can be sure that all inmates get raped and violated in equal measure?