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W3C Approved Patent Policy: Royalty Free Standards

Danny Weitzner writes "The World Wide Web Consortium has approved the W3C Patent Policy based on review by the W3C Advisory Committee and thanks to lots of input and cajoling from the Open Source community and slashdoters. Read the public Director's decision. We're the first major standards organization that sets the explicit goal of producing only standards that can be implemented without paying patent royalties. Our policy requires legal commitments from all who contribute to the development of Web standards that patents held by the contributor will be available on royalty-free terms. Both proprietary and open source software have been critical to the growth of the Web. With this policy, we intend to enabled continued innovation by both open source and proprietary development."

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  1. Unfortunately... by Waab · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, Bezos already has a patent on the use of a royalty-free patent policy. Though I'm sure he'd be willing to license it to W3C for a reasonable fee.

  2. Finally by KDan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some good developments in the great techno-legal world war. There had been too many bad ones lately...

    This one would have been a small disaster if it had gone wrong. Now let's hope the EU makes the right decision too!

    Daniel

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    1. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One would never guess from this article that this action was a few months ago considered to be a bad thing by most slashbots. Alan Cox even wrote of this plan that "He could smell the rot from here"
      The problem with a "royalty free" patent, is that it can be sold to someone who then charges you for it.
      This what happened with the jpg pattent. check the previous stories on this subject for more info.
      http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=450 91&cid= 4672042
      http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/savingeurop e.html

  3. It's a shame by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's really a shame that they have to allow patents at all. If they didn't they'd alienate most commercial contributors who'd then go to another standards body, or none at all. Since they do allow patents, though, it continues to promote the rediculous patenting of software processes.

  4. Does this mean the Web is GPLed? by Laglorden · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn that viral licensing ;)

  5. Good deal... by asparagus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhere, hopefully, a bunch of patent lawyers are groaning.

    Your own damn fault, guys. You got greedy.

    There's only so many people you can harass at the party before you won't get invited to the next ball. Have fun suing each other out of existance.

    1. Re:Good deal... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's where the technology buyers become important. When deciding on a particular platform, the PHB's may have a great deal to say about what vendor to use, but it's the tech people (the CTO, if the company is large enough to have one) that determines the basic capabilities of the proposed system. With a stated checkbox-item to use only published W3C standards where applicable, for instance, the buyers can greatly influence what technologies their vendors will support. Some vendor-specific formats nonwithstanding, this is pretty much what has happened in most areas of information technology.

      Vote with your money, in other words.

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  6. Why did it take so long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Might as well have said: "After much deliberation and comittee meetings, we have come to the decision that 15+1 equals 16. And therefore in all of our publications page 15 will be followed by page 16. We should all thank and congratulate those who contributed time, expertise, patience and a spirit of cooperation to this effort."

  7. Standards Org? by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We're the first major standards organization that sets the explicit goal of producing only standards that can be implemented without paying patent royalties.

    I could have sworn that, for some time, the W3C used to specificaly state that it did not produce standards, only reccomendations. That, apparently has changed, and I'm wondering just when that happened.

    Along these lines, just how does a vendor consortium such as the W3C become a standards body? Is it simply a matter of judging public acceptance and then declaring oneself to be a standards body? (I think that's basically what OASIS did.)

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  8. significant, but then again by rumpledstiltskin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is only one small battle won on the front of silly patents. there's still nothing stopping the USPTO from handing out patents like candy. In fact, this could encourage people to file patents, submit to the w3c committees, and lobby in the future to have that "outmoded patent provision" removed. It's a constant struggle, and while this is a good first step, it's certainly not the last

  9. billy by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    From: Bill Gates
    To:
    MS-Developers(all)

    Find out what these "standards" are that everyone speaks of
    and find a way to buy them out.
    Regards,

    Bill
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  10. Re:Bad idea. by KDan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't you think it's better if it develops more slowly but in the right direction (to bring people together in the greatest social revolution since the invention of writing) rather than really fast in the wrong direction (another method for people to make money)...?

    I mean, what's the big hurry?

    Daniel

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  11. this is the issue that made me join the EFF by pumpkinescobarsof2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this issue finally made me cough up the bucks and im damn glad i did

    should have done it long ago

    and i challenge anyone else who hasn't done so, to join now. its not a whole lot of money and they really need the support.

    very good news to hear it went our way this time

  12. What about inadvertantly patented standards? by elemur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So,

    What happens when a standard is produced in good faith by one or more parties, the W3 picks it up and ultimately generates a standard. Then everybody else picks it up and builds it into their browser, OS, application, tooth brush, and household pets.

    Then, a year later, SomeEvil Co (A leader in Evil Patents since 1899.) decides that there is infringement and sues everybody involved?

    The problem is two fold.. one is that there needs to be a process to search for applicable patents.. but the problem here is that too many patents are too broad. Secondly, if the search doesn't turn up any problems, whats to stop somebody from deciding that HTTP chunking infringes on their patent on, say, chunky peanut butter?

    Is there a process to find *potentially applicable patents* and going to those holders to ask for explicit approval of the use? Or would that just be begging for lawsuits anyway?

  13. Re:Bad idea. by jgardn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone else find it interesting that this post was made a few minutes ago and almost instantly got exactly 4 moderation points for being interesting?

    I'll tell you what's left when you remove royalties from the equation -- and it certainly isn't shills like you. It is innovation, freedom, and advancement for everyone. Why should I have to pay a guy a buck because he came up with the idea of a "shopping cart" on a website? Why can't I take the idea and move it forward? It is alright to patent machines and such, but patenting ideas is absurd. (And, on a lesser note, I wouldn't mind them patenting their code and only their code -- but what's the use of that?)

    And ask yourself this: did the internet grow by leaps and bounds because Microsoft came out with IIS or because a bunch of organizations decided to pool their efforts to make one solid web server that can be configured to do anything a web server should do? I personally think proprietary software is holding us back and costing us far more than the cost of licensing the software because we can't take their ideas and build on them.

    Then where do we get paid? Two ways: By implementing existing solutions in a way that people can use them, or by implementing entirely new solutions. For both instances, people are willing to pay money to have someone else do it. For both instances, it really doesn't matter whether the end result is Open Source or proprietary to them. We know that going the Open Source will allow us to satisfy more people with better products than the other case, because IT will constantly be evolving and building on the successes and failures of the past, rather than limiting the growth to one giant monopoly.

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