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RFID Tags in Euro Banknotes

psychictv writes "CNET News.com is reporting that Euro notes could be embedded with RFID tags in the future. 'RFID (radio frequency identification) tags also have the ability of recording information such as details of the transactions the paper note has been involved in...'" The EU has been considering this for a while. You'll never even know they're there.

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  1. New mugging tool by maddogsparky · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Great. Now muggers and pick pockets will be able to use technology to identify prime targets.

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    1. Re:New mugging tool by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, same with salesmen! Goto the customers with large amounts of cash first. At casinos, they could tell who the high rollers are.

      Hey, while we are at it, lets put it on scanners at our stores, and we can detect if employees are leaving with more money than they came to work with.

  2. RFID tags that record? by jonbrewer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "RFID (radio frequency identification) tags also have the ability of recording information such as details of the transactions the paper note has been involved in."

    I think you'd be hard pressed to find an RFID tag that could record transaction information inside a bill. You'd need an external device to do the recording.

  3. Robberies by KDan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would make robberies pretty pointless. If your cash register knows what money is in it, you can press the button to say "it was all stolen" and then no other connected cash register will accept that money anymore unless you get it authenticated by the police or whatever... I can see many massive misuses, but there's also a lot of potential good uses...

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  4. Where's that bill been? by Red+Rocket · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Well, I see you picked up this 5 Euro note as change for your purchase of Zovirax on May 12th at the BogoPharm pharmacy on the South Side. You know, you really should be more careful about who you sleep with, Mrs. Zambezi."

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  5. Privacy by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It would, therefore, also prevent money-laundering, make it possible to track illegal transactions and even prevent kidnappers demanding unmarked bills

    Um, excuse me. What about the privacy factor in all this?

    If the government / police are able to track illegal transactions then what is stopping them looking at my normal transactions? I don't want just anybody having access to the information about where I buy everything from my lunch to my porn.

    This is cash we are talking about and they wanna watch it. Pfft.

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    1. Re:Privacy by heby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      what's your point? these are nothing but unique ids on your cash; and they've been there for a long time - unique serial numbers. for all i know, us$ bills have them as well (can't check since my us cash is at home and i'm at work), canada certainly has them. the only difference is that rfid tags will be somewhat easier to read for a machine (note that it's not impossible with the serial numbers, though, banks routinely record them already).

      while i agree that tracking of cash might become more widespread, it's not really a new thing.

  6. Kids, some of you are missing the point by Catbeller · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no valid reason for tagging the money, since anyone who wants a transaction trail could use an e-cash card.

    The Powers are going to eliminate the cash economy. Period. Nothing and no one escapes the net.

    We are entering a prison like no other in history, for it will be the entire world.

  7. Re:Nice. by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now people in the EU will know who to sue when they get testicular cancer from all the Euros in their front pockets.

    RFID chips are passive devices that respond when a reader transmits a certain RF code. The RFID chip uses the energy from the "ether" to respond. If anything, an RFID will absorb a small amount of radiation and convert it to heat, not the other way around.

    You'll probably get cancer from having a cell phone strapped to your waist long before you get it from an RFID chip.

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  8. Not Cash Any More by Euphonious+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Once the Euro gets tags that record transactions, the Euro will cease to have the attributes we associate with cash. After that, they're more akin to "negotiable paper".

    That would make US dollars a lot more popular in some important quarters, which the EU doesn't want. Therefore, I predict that the Euro will get these embedded tags only after the U.S. starts seeding them into its own currency. The desire to create a "cashless society" here, and eliminate untraceable commerce, has a long and sordid history.

    The problem with embedding these things is that they're easily fused, so banks would also need to start refusing fused notes, and people would have to start carrying detectors because they might otherwise end up with undepositable paper. The alternative is that fused notes are still negotiable, but then they would all get fused in short order.

  9. Anti-forgery? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Encrypt the bill's serial number with the treasury dept's private key?

    Seems like that'd be pretty effective...

    Of course, they can't possibly make this a *required* feature of all bills. You have to be able to microwave the money and still use it, otherwise y'all Europeans will start screaming bloody murder.

    The privacy invasion happens when you aren't paying attention: When you don't realize that your subway card placed you at the scene of the crime, or whatever. As they gain more and more surveillance techniques, eventually it'll be impossible to pay attention to all of them.

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  10. Re:Great... by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wonderful. Now how am I supposed to buy porn? Can't use credit card, it gets tracked. Can't use cash, it gets tracked. And with the price of porn these days, who's strong enough to haul around that much change?

    Why are you buying something that you're ashamed to admit you buy?

    I guess it's just me, but I have no problem going into an Adults Only Video and renting a porn in broad daylight, or buying a porno mag off the magazine rack at my local store. I also have no problem walking into a drug store to buy condoms, pregnancy tests, etc. If the clerk gives me a strange look, I just wink at her.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't parade it around the store for all the little kids to see, but I'm certainly not ashamed to buy it.

    Having travelled various parts of Europe, I also don't think most Europeans would be that worried about being "tracked" buying porn either. They're a lot more open with the idea of sexuality over there.

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  11. You made an error by Lurkingrue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This could destroy thieves and black markets.

    You misspelled "personal privacy of any kind".

  12. Next step toward TIA by JonTurner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "...the net could report that you've been mugged immediately and 'deactivate' all those notes..."
    and no doubt make an appropriate entry into your Total Information Awareness database file.
    Or, to look at it from the other angle, if you are engaged in any "suspicious" behavior, what's to stop the TIA/Dept of Homeland Security system from deactivating your money?

    I don't like this one bit. Nosir.