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Mars Rover: Tumbleweed Models

An anonymous reader writes "A North Carolina State project has prototyped a wind-blown Mars exploration rover. It draws its inspiration from the lowly tumbleweed, to cover large distances with low-power requirements. For collecting atmospheric, thermal or geological samples across great distances, the 'single-wheel' tumbleweed has some advantages over the usual four-wheeling approach to tough terrain."

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  1. Re:How do they steer? by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dont think steering is an issue with this sort of project. Its simply to collect data from as many wide ranging sources as possible for trend analysis at a later point as opposed to the majority of past/current efforts which can only focus on a few square metres of the planets surface. I imagine they dont really care where it goes if it broadens the sample pool.

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  2. Re:How do they steer? by porksodas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A possible explanation may be that they don't want to steer. A device this simple, and with these kinds of power requirements, may be deployed on a far larger scale than a single, expensive explorer-cart. They might not be able to provide positional data, but that may well be compensated by their range and numbers. Imagine hundred of these rolling around Mars, for a year or so, continually transmitting usefull measurements... Besides : they might be able to detect their positions from down here - most likely not as accurate as GPS, but still...

  3. Re:Control? by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I would guess that as part of a systematic approach it would work: you target some fixed or limited mobility probes at areas you are interested in and let other blow around where they will. If they are cheap you could get limited data about a wide area, rather than a lot of info about a very small location.

    Besides, there stands a chance that interesting things may be blown to the same places as the probes. Don't forget that the Earth was explored by wind power in the days of sail.

    Plus you can get data on the wind from where they end up!

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  4. Dont need controls by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, you don't need to control it. After all, you would get much more data if this thing would last for years being blown in random locations then say....the rover having limited access next to base an only lasting for a short period of time. In the end, it amounts to data and cost effectiveness of getting it. I'm all for this concept.

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  5. Off the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is smart, off-the-wall thinking.
    Exactly the kind of thing NASA needs these days.

  6. "Re:I don't know..." you sure don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if bacteria can survive in space then it would already be there. the earth is already "contaminating" the solar system with spores. What, you think a bacteria spore is actauly stuck in our gravity well? No. stuff is leaveing our planet all the time. Now I don't know if it would grow on mars or any where else....that has yet to be discovered.

    So please take you psuedo space enviornmentalism and shove it where the sun don't shine.

  7. Getting Ideas from Mother Nature by MikeyNg · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Once again, it seems that Mother Nature is providing us the inspiration for some design challenge.

    Consider the environment that a tumbleweed grows in: the desert - lots of open space, the ability to roam, and the need to traverse alot of ground with minimal energy. Sounds like Mars to me!

    And yes, this is all a cheap pop so you can check out my .sig.

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    1. Re:Getting Ideas from Mother Nature by thasmudyan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think there is a slight problem, because the Mars surface isn't really that flat like the deserts on earth. There are lots of cracks, mountains and just bottomless pits. Not that ideal a hunting ground for a probe that essentially can't be steered in any predictable way.
      So I imagine they would either have to choose the landing site very precisely (even if successful the rover probably wouldn't have much room to travel until it gets stuck somewhere) or the other approach might be to deploy not one but more of those probes so you can count on the probability of at least one getting far enough to be efficient.
      Keep in mind, we're talking NASA here, it would be ridiculously expensive to put anything up there. So why not build probes that can really be controlled (or at least be able to control themselves) while youre at it?

  8. Re:Control? by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is an interesting idea.... but its entire basis for movement -- the wind on Mars -- seems to limit its usefulness to gathering data only on the areas of Mars where winds blow the strongest.

    Mars has worldwide sandstorms. Also, we don't suffer from an excess of data about "windy parts" of Mars. We've carefully analyzed about the same surface area as a couple of teepees would occupy. At this point, anywhere is fine.

    I agree that Imperial probe droids would be more precise, but I don't think the War on Terror can spare the money, especially since blowing the probe thirty feet downrange doubles the scientific sample size we've enjoyed since 1976.