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Microsoft Prepares Alternative To Apple iTunes

bmarklein writes "According to CNET, Microsoft is working on a version of its DRM software that supports expiration of files on portable devices. Combined with a subscription service like Pressplay (soon to become Napster) that allows unlimited "tethered" downloads, you'll be able to fill up your high-capacity player with new music for a flat monthly fee. Of course it will expire once you stop paying the sub fee, but which do you think is the better deal: $7500 to fill a 30GB player (7500 songs at $1 each) with iTunes Music Store, or $120 a year with the ability to swap in new music whenever you want? How much is it worth to you to "own" the bits?"

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  1. Own? by Remik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Watch the verbage. As far as the RIAA is concerned, you never 'own' a song. Unless the consumer has the right to rip, mix, and burn, you can't say they 'own' anything but the right to listen to it, and even then only if they pay a recurring charge. From the looks of this system the best you could call it is renting, and that's a stretch.

    -R

  2. Subscription does not work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Subscription services have already been done. They don't work. Period. iTunes works because you 'own the bits'. That, my friend is why they have sold more music to more customers than any other online pay service COMBINED, and it only took them two weeks.

  3. Stupid question by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Of course it will expire once you stop paying the sub fee, but which do you think is the better deal: $7500 to fill a 30GB player (7500 songs at $1 each) with iTunes Music Store, or $120 a year with the ability to swap in new music whenever you want"

    And if this subscripton doesn't have the music you want? What are you supposed to do - SWITCH and lose your existing collection.

    And when the price doubles what do you do then? Lose your collection or continue paying!

    and how about 5 times? How much can Gates raise the price before you give up your collection?

    What happens when the choice is crap and your paying just to play your existing music?

    1. Re:Stupid question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And what happens when MS releases the next version of Windows and stops supporting the old software. Upgrade or else lose your collection?

  4. Re:7500 songs in 30 GB = 4MB/Song?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, you don't own it at all.

    I've read articles which say Microsoft is getting Mp3 playing device makers to add "clocks" so that the music will be able to time out if you stop paying.

    Microsoft seems sure that consumers will find renting music more desirable than owning it. Personally, I think they're crazy.

    I'm not sure about quality, but I doubt Microsoft themselves would support Linux.

  5. Re:Why? by foolsdragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At the risk of sounding like someone who feeds trolls and replies to flame-bait, you're a scumbag. I for one am NOT a pirate, and have no problem paying for what I want. I'll admit that I have used services like Kazaa and was REALLY into Napster when it was new, but it still is and always has been theft.

    The incentive to buy is exactly the what you mentioned. If you like a band, you buy their music so that you can support them and they'll make more. It's just like potato chips or caffeine vendors, buy their stuff and they'll make more and continue to innovate. Don't buy it and they'll consider the venture a failure and stop doing whatever it was no matter what you thought about it.

    It's not about cluelessness about P2P, it's about paying for a product that someone else produces and you're enjoying the benefits of.

  6. Re:7500 songs in 30 GB = 4MB/Song?? by Radical+Rad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good points. With a tethered subscription service you will have to somehow authenticate from each device you want to play a song from. That means you must have internet access from the device and knowing ms they will make it a pita or completely impossible to play from any machine other than a ms windows pc with ie, wmp, and spylladium installed. And if they do succeed in sucking in a lot of customers, the terms of service will be modified accordingly to feed the beast.

  7. I prefer the freedom of owning by DavidinAla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Renting music is sort of like having cable TV. You can enjoy whatever the operator happens to make available at that time. But when you own the music (or DVD or book or whatever), you don't have to be concerned about whether the things you want to hear will one day be unavailable because of lack of demand or other reasons.

    How much music does a normal person acquire in a year (legally or otherwise)? I have every CD that I own on my 10GB iPod -- plus various MP3s from other sources -- and it's still only half full. The issue as it was framed in this question ($7,500 for ownership vs. $120 a year for rental) is absurb, because people don't buy thousands of dollars of music at once. The real question is whether you want to be committed to listening to whatever a subscription service wants you to listen to OR be able to spend a tiny amount of money on a song or album when you happen to feel like it. The subscription model does at least three bad things: 1) It takes away your ability to legally own music for as long as you want it, 2) It takes away your freedom to time your purchases to your own whims or budget, and 3) It takes away your ability to "vote with your money" to give the market feedback about what you want to buy.

    I understand the theoretical allure of a subscription model, but I believe it's one of those things that looks best when it's in theory. In practice, people want to buy what they want when they want AND they want to be able to own it. (You can argue about whether Apple's mild restrictions are too strict concerning what you can do with the file, but that's another argument. For me, Apple's approach basically means that I can do virtually anything that a normal music consumer wants to do with his music.)

  8. Re:I like owning my music by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    CD: $10.
    Song from iTunes: $0.99
    Not paying a cent to Microsoft: Priceless

    --
    I am TheRaven on Soylent News
  9. Re:7500 songs in 30 GB = 4MB/Song?? by luwain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd rather own the music for $7500 than be held hostage by Microsoft. I want to be able to move my music around, burn CDs, listen to it on my DVD player or stereo... I'm tired of technology developed for the lowest denominator in society, making it difficult to enjoy the primary purpose of having the technology in the first place. I don't mind paying for what I want. This is something that both commercial and "free" software proponents have to learn. Ironically, I was willing to pay for music downloads (from MP3.com, long before iTunes). If schemes like Microsoft's become prevalent, Kazaa and the like will thrive. iTunes proves that people are willing to pay to download music... that everyone who uses P2P software is not a pirate. I'm willing to pay for music to own it. Renting music is a stupid model. And I don't trust Microsoft.