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Canadian Telco Telus Moves All Call Traffic to the Net

justice0x1 writes "An article on the Tornonto Star about Canada's Telus making a large scale motion to move all call trafic over to IP caught my eye today. 'Telus will become the first dominant phone carrier in North America to make the risky transition, a move much talked about and which Telus will make happen on a dramatic scale.' Since I work in the Telus Internet Service department, it will be interesting to see exactly how this new technology fares. Seems almost premature to me, but I guess it's all or nothing with telecomunications these days; you need to get an edge on the competition somehow. Why not start by moving youre entire long distance network over to IP?"

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  1. Bandwidth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What kind of bandwidth would this require?

    1. Re:Bandwidth? by AmunRa · · Score: 5, Informative

      In europe, traditional circuit-switched telephone networks use channelised E1s, which basically have 15 64kbit/s data channels, along with a 64kbit/s control channel, giving a 2Mbit/s channel.

      Using H.323 (the main VoIP standard) you can choose from a number of compression codecs, from 32kbits upwards, although there exists a couple of codecs which sound pretty good (coparable to a average analogue phone line) at 64kbit/s, to you can make the transition without effecting you capacity.

      I was involved in some trials here in the UK, and (IIRC) we were using about 90kbits, and that was _crystal clear_ - the thing you most notice is that when no-one is talking, it is actually *silent* - you don't realise it until you try VoIP howe much noise is in a normal analog call.

      This is fact one of the advantages of VoIP, you can have in effect variable bitrate encoding, as if no-one is talking, then you don't have any data to encode!

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  2. And So we move closer to integrated communication by SkArcher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Turnabout is fair play it seems. No more than 5 years ago, I was using a phone line to access the internet. Soon i'll be using the internet to make telephone calls.

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  3. A matter of time by RosCabezas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In fact it was just a matter of time. At last, telcos are realizing that technology is a helper and not a foe. Probably 3rd generation as designed is not going to generate the expected revenue and some side paths need to be found.

  4. Re:IP != The Net by 8282now · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just because it's VoIP, it doesn't mean it has to flow over the "public" IP network. They can simply point the VoIP over their own network and still see massive savings.

    For the VoIP/PSTN imparied, VoIP traffic can be optimized (that's compressed) down to 8K (or more, but a cost of clarity) as opposed to 56K for traditional circuit switched telephony traffic.
    And yes I have worked with the technology.

  5. Having read a little deeper by SkArcher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The benefits, however, are enormous and noticeable, particularly on a carrier's balance sheet. Telus stands to substantially lower its operating and capital costs with the new infrastructure, and will be in a position to offer customers new business services that can combine voice, video and data. "We literally have three infrastructures," says Pathak, explaining that separate networks exist today to carry phone calls, Internet and data services, and video. "The goal is to merge into one simple platform.

    So their ultimate plan is to have Video, Phone and Data linked into the same system? An Extreme bandwidth use, but one that would raise some hopes of breaking down the current 'methods of communication' fragmentation and simply leaving us with one single, integrated, communications method.

    Now that raises all sorts of possibilities in terms of remote conferencing, especially as the younger, technically proficient generations move into higher echelons of the decision making process in government and corporations.

    Any ideas on what OS is used to control this?

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  6. Hold the phone. by FreeLinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a few posts have already descibed, VoIP is not the same as voice over the internet. The VoIP that Telus is using is actually being carried over dedicated data circuits which offer, not only high speed (OC-12 +), but also end to end Quality of Service control. Indeed, these dedicated data circuits may well carry some internet traffic as well, but Telus is able to run the voice traffic at a higher priority than the less time sensitive data.

    In fact, this is already being done by several carriers including Sprint, MCI, Intermedia, Verizon and probably others.

    I have also installed numerous private networks utilizing Nortel or Cisco equipment to carry VoIP over dedicated private networks, usually frame-relay WANs. These VoIP calls are 100% reliable and are perfectly clear.

    In two cases standard internet connections (cable, xDSL, frame-relay) were used to carry calls between several different offices in the United States, Canada, Europe and Mexico. These connections are not always as clear as those running on private WANs but, they have proven to be 98% reliable and are indistinguishable from regular land lines, in terms of clarity, 85% of the time.