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DeCSS Arguments in CA Supreme Court Case

scubacuda writes "According to News.com, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer called DVD-cracking software DeCSS a tool for "breaking, entering and stealing" during a hearing before the California Supreme Court on Thursday. "The program DeCSS is a burglary tool," Lockyer told the judges, adding that the movie studios lose millions of dollars because of piracy over the Internet. (CopyLeft offers this "burglary tool" on a t-shirt)" If you've forgotten what this case is about, see EFF's page about it.

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  1. I just made the worst mistake of my life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There's no real easy way to talk about this so I'll just let what comes to my mind blurt out... forgive me if I sound distressed but I feel like I'm going to puke.

    A few nights ago I heard my parents fighting in their room. This isn't unusual for the weekend (especially Sunday before memorial day) because they usually have a bit to drink and tempers tend to flare. This time it was particularly bad though. I heard some loud thumps, I was worried about my mom... I didn't know if my dad was hitting her or not. Apparently it was just door slamming and throwing stuff around, no physical abuse. My mom told me they were fighting about how my dad never spends any time with her, she said he spends way too much time at work (he is a software engineer for a major company) and that she didn't know if he loved her anymore. I helped my mom through it, let her vent, she doesn't have many friends so I'm glad to be hers. She's been my best friend all my life. We went out to eat and stuff the following day after the fight, and she told me she was thinking about a divorce.

    This kind of scared me because I've had both parents since birth and it would be pretty shitty to lose them now. I told her that the computer industry isn't exactly the best thing to be in right now, and that the company probably just expected a lot out of him right now and that it would pass. She agreed that she might be over reacting and we left it at that.

    Fast forward to Wedsnday night, my parents are fighting yet again, this time sober and when dad got home from work. I don't know what sparked it exactly but it was worse than the last one. I was in my room playing Windwaker when it happened. After about an hour of listening to it, I came out of my room to catch the last bit of it from the top of the stairs, my dad said that there was no reason for him to be here if she thought he wasn't in love with her still and he slammed the door and left. My mom starts crying and she tells me everything that's happened, I sit with her and try to talk her through it. It's not looking good at this point. She decides that the best way to feel better is to get wasted. So she goes in the kitchen and gets some scotch and starts knocking them down. I hated to see her do this, and the bad part is that I gave in when she asked me to drink with her so she wouldn't feel like an alcoholic.

    After about two hours of talking and drinking we were pretty messed up, and so begins the real problem. We were sitting on the sofa and she jokingly started to kiss me. I didn't know what the hell to think, maybe she was just too drunk. Then she got serious and tried to stick her tongue in my mouth, and I was a fucking idiot and kissed her back. After a few seconds of kissing she stuck her hand down my pants and started massaging my penis, she did this for a while during this horrible, disgusting makeout session and soon my pants were around my ankles. She started to give me head and something in me, thankfully, finally, snapped. I got up really fast and kneed her in the chin knocking her over, luckily my penis had exited her mouth by then or the situation would have been worse. I think I knocked her out or she had had it from the liquor because she didn't get up for a few hours, I made sure she slept on her side though.

    My dad came back at about 3am and I just told him that she got drunk and we talked about it, and she felt better now. Today was really fucking awkward to say the least. My mom is trying to pretend like nothing happened and I have a hard time looking her and my father in the eye. I'm really stumped as to what I should do. I mean how the fuck do you go to a shrink with something like this, this is fucking weird and I'm sure somehow it would get out with the nature of the problem. Ugh, any advice would be much appreciated.

  2. frist pist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    i fuckin doubt it with the 20 sec wait shit.... Important Stuff: Please try to keep posts on topic. Try to reply to other people's comments instead of starting new threads. Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page) Problems regarding accounts or comment posting should be sent to CowboyNeal.

  3. I say.... by TyrranzzX · · Score: -1, Troll

    We should get a P2P DDOS type of program going, get everyone on the current P2P apps to sign up for it, and assassinate the the major recording label companies 1 by 1.

    Can't do much without an accounting system or internet access, now can you?

  4. KY Jelly should be illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Rob Malda used KY Jelly to "break, enter, and steal" my ass cherry!

  5. A true story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Once upon a time whilst walking in a park I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and inquired, "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only! What planet are you living on?!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, pocket protector etc), and explained, "A girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship." He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing. I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say."

    My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if he was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing that you should strive to give pleasure to." The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then, quite geekishly, skipped off down the path.

    I walked back to my house feeling rather disheartened. 'Why don't they listen to me' I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.
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  6. A story of truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Once upon a time while walking in a park I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and inquired, "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only! What planet are you living on?!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, pocket protector etc), and explained, "A girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship." He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing. I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say."

    My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if he was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing that you should strive to give pleasure to." The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then, quite geekishly, skipped off down the path.

    I walked back to my house feeling rather disheartened. 'Why don't they listen to me' I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.
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  7. guten poop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Once upon a time whilst strolling in a park I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and inquired, "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only! What planet are you living on?!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, pocket protector etc), and explained, "A girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship." He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing. I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say."

    My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if he was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing that you should strive to give pleasure to." The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then, quite geekishly, skipped off down the path.

    I walked back to my house feeling rather disheartened. 'Why don't they listen to me' I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.
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  8. Re:teh story of a lifetime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
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    Because the perineum is so rich in nerve endings it often feels pleasing to have it touched or stroked. If one is comfortable with being touched on the perineum, its stimulation can be incorporated into a couple's lovemaking to further enhance sexual arousal.

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  9. Re:Doesn't it seem odd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Thanks for clearing that up, buzzkill.
    For an encore, I suppose you'll denounce Santa Claus? ;)