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fvwm Turns Ten

Some Old Dude writes "fvwm, F* Virtual Window Manager, is celebrating its 10th birthday in a few days. This is the window manager I used when cutting my Linux teeth back in the last millennium, and the one I still use today (after trying many newer ones). If it's been a while since you've seen what fvwm can do, check out its features and screenshots."

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  1. speaking of old window managers by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was surprised to find twm when I installed X11 on OS X.

  2. Choice is good... by SpaceCadetTrav · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless all of the choices suck.

  3. Mummy? by GauteL · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does F* stand for?

    1. Re:Mummy? by David+Gould · · Score: 3, Funny

      What does F* stand for?

      I've always heard it explained as "Feeble".

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      main(i){putchar(340056100>>(i-1)*5&31|!!(i<6)<< 6)&&main(++i);}
    2. Re:Mummy? by krumms · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mummy what does F* stand for?

      It stands for 'fuck' - what do they teach you in school these days?

  4. Even THAT deserves a mention in slashdot? by mnmn · · Score: 2, Funny


    Nostalgically twm would be more cool. fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm95, icewm, sawfish are the 'other' window managers. The big ones are kde and gnome and friends.

    So tonight I will celebrate by switching from icewm to fvwm for a day.

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  5. Oh man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I forgot to buy it a gift. I'm so screwed.

  6. Cool screenshots... by Stalemate · · Score: 4, Funny

    and a catchy name too. It really rolls right off of your tongue about like a sawblade. ;)

  7. Happy Birthday! by MacOS_Rules · · Score: 4, Funny

    F* yes! Happy F*'ing birthday! (The BSD devel made me do it).

    Really, thanks and congrats to the developers of this great WM: this was my first Linux non-CLI, and it remains my favorite.

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    If a man's character is to be abused there's nobody like a relative to do the business. -Thackeray, William
  8. Reparenting window managers are for wimps by Raul+Acevedo · · Score: 4, Funny

    REAL men use the console. For those forced to use those silly window gadgets by their PHBs, there's NAWM: Not a Window Manager. Non-reparenting, non-eye candy, pure window management functionality and nothing more. Check it out.

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    1. Re:Reparenting window managers are for wimps by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Real men eat pancakes in the morning, fart in bed, dress in women's clothing, and hang around in bars.

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  9. birthdays by bongobongo · · Score: 5, Funny

    my hypercard stack "Escape From The Dark Cassel [sic]" turned 12 today... can we celebrate that too?

    1. Re: birthdays by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeaah. How old is Hypercard itself anyway? That's the birthday I'm getting a gift for. I remember my first Hypercard stack. Drawing of a naked woman; when you clicked her nipple it made noises and played screen effects. Immature and simple, yes, but it still beats the hell out of fvwm.

  10. Re:fvwm allowed me to make my perfect linux deskto by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > After trying out kde, gnome and xfce, I went back to fvwm and couldn't be happer with my current setup.

    <AOL>Me too</AOL^>

    "Mouse? Oh, you mean the thing I use to figure out what xterm I want to type in."

    (Cripes, even the FVWM screenshots on the almost-slashdotted page look almost too glitzy for my tastes ;-)

  11. Re:Real men don't use shells w/job control by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

    or tab completion, or inline editing, etc... Real men use SysV R3 /bin/sh on an old Wyse 60. For a real trip, try the Mashey Shell (predates the Bourne Shell).

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    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  12. Happy Freakin' Birthday? by suwain_2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is like a "Happy friggin' birthday" greeting. "It's your birthday, here's the Slashdot effect for your birthday." And they can't effectively return the gift if they don't like it.

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  13. You have a woman's window manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll wager you never had fourteen shipwrecked mariners tossing about in it, or never been used to plug up a leak on a ship.

    1. Re:You have a woman's window manager by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since you're clearly as mad as a mongoose, I'll bid you farewell.

      graspee

  14. Re:IMPORTANT!!! The Linux Gay Conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mr. Gates, the time you spend hating people that are cooler than you...

  15. Re:On fvwm... by PD · · Score: 3, Funny

    And if you'd quit pestering him about how ugly his fonts are he'd actually get that thesis done.

  16. It's about time! by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny
    I currently have a graduate student who is working part-time on a rewrite of fvwm in CWEB, the literate programming language.

    Finally. After 10 years of being written by illiterates, it's about time.

  17. Re:fvwm should be euthanized for the good of *nix by tarzan353 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You say that like the majority of WMs for X11 *are* good looking.

  18. Top 5 Reason to run FVWM by sflory · · Score: 4, Funny

    1)It was good enough 8 years ago.

    2)I've got nothing better to do than fuck with my .fwm*rc file

    3)My desktop doesn't look enought like ass yet.

    4)I've only got 12M of memory.

    5)What the hell X only holds up my xterms, and mozilla.

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  19. My very first experience with X, Penn State 1990 by The_Dougster · · Score: 4, Funny
    Somehow I managed to wheedle an account on the ultra-elite IBM RT, ostensibly to learn CADAM, and was pissing around with it and I found this mysterious "startx" command which looked promising. I was actually able to start an xterm! In fact I could start as many xterms as I wanted to... in fact there wasn't anything else I could do except start an xterm. But d00d, I had as many xterms as I wanted! Wow! And it was, like, fast! No click MS-DOS Prompt on Windows 2.1 and wait a minute for a shell where I couldn't do anything, instead I had the mysterious $ prompt, with its unlimited possibilites... and unlimited xterms! Wow!


    This was thirteen years ago, mind you. I was 3l337 just because I was _using_ the RT, nevermind there wasn't jack shit installed on it except CADAM :-)

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  20. fvwm by Requiem · · Score: 2, Funny

    So ugly...can't...concentrate.

  21. Windows 3.0 is dead and buried, so should fvwm be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Why would we compare anything to Windows 3.0? This isn't a history lesson people. Any window manager for *current use* should be compared to the state of the art *today*. fvwm sucks out loud. Bury it, its starting to smell.

  22. Go text! by Openadvocate · · Score: 1, Funny

    There's this new thing out called text screens. Even Windows XP has it!!! You can find it in XP under start->programs->accessories and it's called "command prompt".
    And, get this. Instead of trying to figure out alle the menus and graphics you can just TYPE commands to it! It is my understanding the most UNIX and Linux systems has extended version of this features. One of my friends even saw a machine running TEXT ONLY!! I am sure that once Microsoft wrap their heads around it, they will be all over it. In fact, I would not be surprised if the next Windows would be developed for text use, with backward support for those old graphic programs. Oh, btw, I managed to get the ENTIRE screen in XP to be ALL text!

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  23. I take offense to that by silvaran · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real men eat pancakes in the morning, fart in bed, dress in women's clothing, and hang around in bars.

    Ok, I don't eat pancakes, fart in bed, _or_ hang around in bars. What was that about clothing?

  24. Re:On fvwm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Step 1: Post using fake Donald Knuth /. account
    Step 2: Use another slashdot account to point out that your own Donald Knuth account is fake
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Karma Profit

  25. Re:fvwm allowed me to make my perfect linux deskto by Chundra · · Score: 2, Funny

    (Bonus points to those that have mucked around with X11 enough to know what greyweave is).

    Huh? You mean you can put images on the root window?

  26. Re:why didn't this window manager die LONG AGO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That should be "person with whom you disagree". Your mama must have been too busy sucking cock to teach you anything.

  27. Re:Esp. when you try to pronounce it by Bastian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Especially when you try to pronounce it.

    I've heard attempts at putting every imaginable vowel sound between the letters in FVWM, and never with good results.

  28. Re:Featherweight by cbiffle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yup, just as many of us have not forgotten that the K in KDE is for Kool, or was originally. I wonder why they didn't call it CDE...erm, wait....

    But, though KDE is still quite kool if your spelling is atrocious, FVWM need not necessarily be Featherweight in name or functionality. Acronyms can change. Take good ol' Personal Home Page.

  29. Re:Oh, you didn't hear? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This isn't fair. I'm Jewish, I didn't get in on the worldwide Jewish conspiracy. I'm an atheist, I didn't get in on the evil atheist conspiracy. Now I don't get in on the Gay conspiracys either? Life just isn't fiar.

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  30. Re:pager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    >I absolutely hated the pager, but I didn't know how to turn
    >it off. After about 2 weeks of it, I can't live without it now.

    Sound like smoking. At first you hate it, then after a few weeks you cant live without it.