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Aqwon, the First Hydrogen Scooter

An anonymous reader writes "After 10 years of research and development, Josef Zeitler has developed the first hydrogen-filled two stroke engine scooter with technical approval from the German TÜV. In case of an accident, the tank will freeze and no fire or explosion would occur. Anyone can fill-up the tank on the scooter within 3 to 4 minutes, without being in any danger. The pressure sensor will transmit the data to a computer chip, which will then accumulate and send the necessary information, regarding the proper hydrogen mixture, to the injection jet. This process of refilling is possible with a newly developed system consisting of pressure tanks and a hydrogen generator. AQWON's top speed is about 50 km/h (31 mph), the power is 2.6 kWh and the weight is minimal. This is the same as a petrol/oil two stroke scooter. There is no extra maintenance service required."

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  1. Just like my Hydroge Powered Jeep! by GMontag · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well, just like it except my Jeep has the same maintenance in reality, this scooter has the same maintenance in theory.

    So, it's just the same except newer and different :-)

  2. motor insurance by romit_icarus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    hmm I wonder how much premium I'll have to pay to insure this baby

  3. hydrogen vs. electric for "scooters"... by ptorrone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this looks pretty interesting, i'm not sure i'm sold on hydrogen quite yet. i just got away from "filling" up by using electricity for my transportation needs.

    hydrogen requires quite a bit of energy to create, it's volatile, the only companies that really have the infrastructure to pull this off are the folks we get gas from now.

    i currently use electricity to charge my "scooter" i get the power from solar panels or any plug anywhere (at work, on the go, etc..) anytime. i can charge up anytime and the power from a power plant is far cleaner than hydrogen production at this time.

    i think hydrogen and electric is far better than petroleum, but hydrogen forces me to "fill up" electricity does not and it's everywhere and can be made with solar, wind, hydro, etc...

    it seems like hydrogen gets us to a more profitable proposition for companies, it's like printer cartridges and razors blades for shavers, we need to keep buying. with electricity, it's different-- we can plug in anywhere, but the gas companies do not make money off that. i think that's the other reason the auto-industry is moving away from electric cars and more towards hydrogen and hybrid, granted...batteries aren't perfect either, if the systems are not planned properly you won't be able to recycle the batteries.

    read more about my ride here at my site.

    cheers,
    pt

    1. Re:hydrogen vs. electric for "scooters"... by ptorrone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i have a solar array. i don't hate any oil companies at all, i do try to find other sources or power and propultion than are not oil based, but i'm not opposed to it. people need cars, we need gas, i'm interested in other methods, i can use those so i will. the power in my are (over 70%) comes from a hyrdo plant, they're not a big huge powerful company, this is washington state and it's not the same as the rest of the country, i do understand that.

  4. Re:Range by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if this would not make a good replacement for lawn mower engines and the like. They are already being singled out as major producers of pollution. Range would not be a big problem for the typical user. The fuel coudl be generated with a system that generates a trickle of hydrogen, such as solar or wind, with maybe electrical as a backup.

    Would be nice to see hydrogen get any kind of foothold in our economy.

  5. I'm thinking by Timesprout · · Score: 1, Interesting

    PRO

    Cant think of any off hand

    CON
    I might end up in a lot more pieces than I would like.

    Would anyone care to enlighten us as to the point of this scooter? Why is this a good idea, and were the fuck on the high street do I get hydrogen to fuel it

    --
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    What truth?
    There is no dupe
  6. Hilarious presentation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The presentation is just hilarious. Especially the picture where the blonde shows the tube locker. Really German.

    1. Re:Hilarious presentation by curious.corn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Last week I saw Bush driving a Japanese official (I think it was the Prime Minister) in a huge SUV, wearing cowboy boots and hat. Really American... (yes, I feel polemic...)

      --
      Mi domando chi à il mandante di tutte le cazzate che faccio - Altan
  7. Re:Range by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html

    This is an article talking about new technology to convert garbage (literally) into oil. So instead of buying oil from OPEC, we produce our own and are 100% self sufficient. Also it doesn't add any new CO2 to the atmosphere since it uses recycled materials.

    Oil/gas as an energy storage mechanism has proven safe, effective, dense + cheaper than all alternatives. Solar power--always 10 years away. Electric cars--batteries always heavy, don't store enough power, and wear out too quickly, not to mention incredibly expensive.

  8. Re:Two stroke? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Interesting
    uh. it has no emissions, its hydrogen powered dude.

    Well, it says that the engine is based on a conventional 50cc 2-stroke engine. These get lubrication by mixing motor oil with the gasline fuel. Unless they've figured out an entirely new way to lubricate the engine, you'd still get that nasty stinky blue smoke coming out from the burning oil.

  9. Re:Alternative-powered vehicles seem to be cripple by vivIsel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Alternative-powered vehicles seem to be crippled..

    Not this one.

    Dimensions: 3.84m, 1.72m, 1.75m
    Weight: 720 kg
    Maximum speed: 130 kmh
    Autonomy: 200 to 300 km
    Recharging: 4 hours (electric)
    Recharging: 3 minutes (air station)

  10. The American's caused the Hindenburg disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The American's were unable to deliver the German's the promised amount of helium, due in no small part to the Helium Control Act of 1927, which made it illegal to export helium.

    The Hindenburg was yet another FINE example of German engineering. The American's just couldn't back up their promises, and presto, you have a disaster.

  11. Re:As far as i know.. by GMontag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, that's why I get the hydrogen for my hydrogen powered Jeep at an Exxon station :-)

    Oh yes, a side topic, for those that don't know, most "solar cells" are made by the same firms that refine oil.

    I have stopped being puzzled by the folks that say they use solar cells because they will not support "big oil", since they have no trouble finding a conspiracy under every unleaded pump, but they are 'unaware' that solar cells are made by energy companies.

    Just thought I would mention that before the "solar power" folks swarm over your post.

  12. Lubrication? by jhines · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How is the engine lubed? Gas two cycle engines "burn" the lubricating oil, a not terribly environmentally friendly process.

  13. Hydrogen Is a Stupid Solution, Check Out BingoFuel by irishkev · · Score: 2, Interesting
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