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Yoda, Gollum Take MTV Awards

zoobaby writes "MTV has given the LoTR franchise credit for spectactular work with Gollum. After being snubbed by the Academy Awards, it is nice to see recognition given to one of the most expressive and best acted roles in recent films."

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  1. Oscar... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's myy precioussss, it is... Nasty Yoda can't haves it, Noooo....

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  2. Uhm.... by Eyston · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is obviously keeping up with the 'shiny things' network.

    Giving Gollum some recognition is great and all, but when he wins it jointly with the little guy who jumped around like sonic the hedge hog wielding a light saber, it is lacking credibility. It is obviously the 'digital characters are cool' award.

    -Eyston

    1. Re:Uhm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      it is lacking credibility.

      >>> mtv.credibility

      AttributeError: class mtv has no attribute 'credibilty'

      (no class either, but Python fails to recognize that)

    2. Re:Uhm.... by Achoi77 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Giving Gollum some recognition is great and all, but when he wins it jointly with the little guy who jumped around like sonic the hedge hog wielding a light saber, it is lacking credibility.

      Yoda didn't win for virtual peformance, he won an award for 'best fight scene.' So him spinning around with a lightsabre was what got him that award in the first place.

      Personally I didn't think that lightsabre scene was as sacreligious as people claim it to be. If you take a real close look, you'll see that Yoda doesn't do as many blender-style-720-degree spins as his lightsabre movements imply. While he is spinning, he's also moving the lightsabre in the same direction, giving him more speed and force. I've seen enough Kali/Eskrima classes and demonstrations to be convinced that sometimes even the most simple movements can look overwhelming.

      On a side note, I've also heard stories about an 80 year old Kali master who was able to hold his own against 3 young men in their 20's.

      Basically Yoda's movements aren't necessarily impossible - difficult yes, but not impossible. If you wanna see impossible, wait for that scene where you see Neo spinning around like a top with that pole when he fights those Smiths. And flies away at the same time. And accelerates his spinning.

    3. Re:Uhm.... by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny
      If you wanna see impossible, wait for that scene where you see Neo spinning around like a top with that pole when he fights those Smiths. And flies away at the same time. And accelerates his spinning.
      But if he jumped really hard while spinning and holding the pole out at arm's length, he could bring the pole in close to his chest, thereby in order to preserve the angular momentum the rate of rotation would need to increase. Or, uh... I guess it could be done on computers. Ahem.
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  3. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...it is nice to see recognition given to one of the most expressive and best acted roles in recent films.

    Its probably a lot easier to be yourself when you know its never going to hit film (your face).

    Perhaps acting could become even better in the future, still done by humans, but mapped over with different faces?

    With acting you have to let yourself go. I think actors still hold something back though and aren't 100% of what they could be.

  4. besides.. by TCM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eminem got awarded for best male role and said: "I can't believe I beat Mariah for 'Glitter'".

    While I can't believe it either it still puzzles me.

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  5. WTF? by JiMbOb_ka · · Score: 5, Funny

    First the Aimee Deep Story and now this MTV story...if this turns into a Teeny Bopper website, I am so out of here...

  6. Sarcasm? by Telastyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see how recognition by a network known for not knowing the difference between art and a hole in the wall is in any way complimentary...

  7. Re:No SPOILER WARNING!?!? by Eyston · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bit of advice. Next time use AC to post that you wanted to watch the MTV awards.

    -Eyston

  8. Strange thing it is! by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Funny
    Yoda appeared on a giant screen to accept the honor and spoke in his signature circuitous manner.

    "Hmmm ... grateful am I to this award receive. To win, I did not expect," he said. "Promise myself cry I would not."

    He went on to thank supporters ranging from "Star Wars" creator George Lucas to Wookie Chewbacca, Vin Diesel, space monster Greedo and actor Steve Guttenberg.

    He didn't expect it? Boy, that rendering farm and the voice actors sure must work in a hurry to produce a rendered imagine complete with voice acting in such a hurry! You'd almost think this is a huge show, a spectacle aimed at enriching those with the largest marketing/SFX budget! Almost like the gollum thing further on in the article:

    Then, the emaciated Gollum clamored over to snatch the trophy from Serkis' hands.

    "You're a liar and a thief," Gollum hissed. "It's mine!"

    Gollum went on to deliver an expletive-filled tirade against the filmmakers, actors, MTV and audience, while Serkis stood by looking embarrassed.

    Come on people, we're talking about the MTV awards here, brought to us by MTV; the epitomy of modern pop and hype culture. We're talking about something hosted by a TV station aimed at 14 year old girls who faint at the sight of $current_hip_boyband and wish to be like $cheap_spicegirls_knock_off while flooding the rest of the market with artists like $random_teen_chick and $overhyped_guy_who_looks_gay ...

  9. Indeed by tomakaan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gollum was a great character. Yeah, the camera work back and forth may have been a little too much, but I think that's a great way for Gollum to be depicted. His split personality was shown greatly and that is the one thing I am actually looking forward to in the third movie since they already messed with the storyline so much!

  10. Re:Sure... by SamBC · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ah but he does very much exist... Andy Serkis is a graduate of my very own Lancaster University and did a very marvelous job of portraying gollum.

    The animators used actual footage of Serkis acting out the role in a silly skintight body stocking, and the voice is all him. I am particularly impressed by gollum's dialogue with himself

  11. Huh? What about Jar Jar!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    *runs*

  12. Re:I'm afraid if Yoda is passed over. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, there is another...

  13. Gah! Spoilers by jtkooch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well take this!

    Vader is Lukes father
    Soilent Green is people
    XXX Sucks
    And the third LOTR and the third Matrix are actually the same movie!

  14. Re:Gollum sucked by Goldfinger7400 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't know about you guys, but I still don't think CGI is ready for the big time. In every movie it looks so obvious that there was CGI used that it almost ruins the movie for me.

    It's not that you can't tell that it's CG, it's that it's done in a way that you don't care that it's CG. It's obvious from the looks of him that Gollum doesn't really exist, but then again, hobbits don't exist but we're willing to accept them as characters. It was the natural nature of Gollum's movement that allowed someone to accept him as a character, to the point that (some) people cared about him. You can put people in costumes in front of a bluescreen, but if they can't convey a sense of their characters (through acting) then they're no better than Jar-Jar.

  15. Yoda speak is Latin, dammit by mr_tenor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I cannot _stand_ people who think Yoda speaks in a fashion that just randomly rearranges words. The times I've watched Star Wars (tm) movies, it's always seemed to me that he speaks in a classical Latin word order

    eg.

    "Strong you are" (Yoda) or whatever, as compared to
    "mangus es" (Romans)

  16. Re:Bored of the Rings.... by sylvester · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, right. Reloaded was sure stingy on the effect. Like, geez. Only $100 mill. wtf.

    Choice snippets:

    o A 17-minute battle sequence alone cost over $40 million.

    o The 1.4-mile, three-lane loop highway was built specifically for the chase scene on the decommissioned Alameda Point Navy Base at a cost of around $30 million. It was destroyed when filming was complete.

    o It was reported that Keanu Reeves volunteered to give up a claim to a share of ticket sales amounting to around $38 million when producers feared that the film would never recoup the cost of the special effects.

    o The special effects cost $100 million U.S.

  17. Re:fuck cgi gollum by Catnapster · · Score: 5, Funny

    I disagree.

    Nobody wants to see Christopher Walken dressed only in a loincloth.

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