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FCC Approves Media Consolidation

evenprime writes "You can expect more media consolidation in the future. CBS is reporting that the FCC has approved the media deregulation that was previously discussed on Slashdot. Expect Clear Channel, Viacom and their kin to get bigger, and the radio to have even less diversity (a situation that some people think is responsible for falling CD sales)."

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  1. One channel to rule them all by Colonel+Panic · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and no rules to bind them...

    1. Re:One channel to rule them all by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...and no rules to bind them...

      Gee, and why should they? After all, companies know what's best for the consumer, right? Hey, I want all of my news and entertainment to come from just a couple companies who can disseminate their news, products and viewpoints, that way we are not so confused by different sides of reality.

      I'll tell ya folks, the truth is about to become muddier to the average citizen, and yet much more difficult to discern for those that actually are interested in the truth.

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    2. Re:One channel to rule them all by BDew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "they never bothered to even cover many of the anti-war protests that occured."

      Then where did YOU learn about these protests? Did you attend all of them? Or did you learn about them someplace other than FOX?

      It doesn't matter how many independent voices there are if you only use a sample size of one to form your opinions. FOX had very little on the demonstrations, MSNBC seemed embarrassed to be covering them, but did a bit. CNN at times seemed downright cheerful to be showing them, while NPR felt almost as if it was out and out participating. At least, that was the impression I got as I WATCHED THEM ALL. (well, listened in the case of NPR).

      The media giants are not one large monolith most of the time. I think the FCC is wrong because this ruling will make it *more likely* for stations to stifle minority opinions, and there is no appreciable upside for the public to offset this potential problem.

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      "Fifty million Americans can't be wrong," said Rep. Billy Tauzin. Gore - 50,999,897 Bush - 50,456,002
  2. I honestly don't care.. by OutRigged · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I gave up watching TV and listening to the radio long ago. There's simply nothing good on anymore, and the radio has been crap for years. I'm sure many of you feel the same way.

    --
    RaGe
    We're all just noise on the wires..
    1. Re:I honestly don't care.. by DeltaSigma · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can count me amongst those who feel that television and radio are worthless.

      Companies have completely forgotten that there are SOME customers who absolutely do not make impulse buys and will come to them when they are good and ready, and only if they have a superior product.

    2. Re:I honestly don't care.. by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I couldn't agree more. The only reason I don't have cable TV is because in order to have HBO I have to sign up for 254 channels of crap first.

      NPR ROCKS

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      "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
    3. Re:I honestly don't care.. by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I gave up watching TV and listening to the radio long ago. There's simply nothing good on anymore, and the radio has been crap for years. I'm sure many of you feel the same way.

      I feel exactly the same way. However, it still matters, whether you or I choose to watch it or not. More power in the hands of fewer people will affect you regardless. They will have more power to control elections; more power to sell wars; more power to do anything they want. The crappy music that gets pumped over the airwaves is the *least* of my worries when talking about media deregulation.

      Time to get a new sig I suppose... :(

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    4. Re:I honestly don't care.. by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't watch TV anymore, nor do I listen to much radio except to and from work. It is a vast sea of crap with only a few spots of non-crap to break up the monotony.

      That said, this is still important, because many people do still tune in to mass media, and they use it as their primary source of news and information. Whoever controls that information can to a large degree influence what the public is thinking or talking about, and to a slightly lesser degree, what they think about what everyone else is thinking or talking about.

      Democracy requires open debate and open information in order to be viable. Consolidation prevents this by choking off divergent points of view.

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  3. Interesting by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "If I were a record seller, I'd lay heaps of blame on radio, which used to be 80 per cent of the reason people bought music. ..... Today, that figure is closer to 20 per cent, insiders say."

    I know the radio sucks, but I had no idea that the record industry felt the same way. Seems like everything to do with music needs a remodel.

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    "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
    1. Re:Interesting by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know the radio sucks, but I had no idea that the record industry felt the same way.

      The music industry hates radio monopoly for the same reason consumers do -- if you own all the stations, it's a lot easier to demand more payola^H^H^H^H^Hmarketing support from the record companies, since they can't shop their product around to other stations as easily.

      But don't worry, someone *cough*Disney*cough*AOL-TW*cough* will figure out that if you own the labels and the stations, it's an even better deal.

    2. Re:Interesting by jdunlevy · · Score: 4, Informative
      This whole line of thought (more diversity in radio airplay --> more records artists/songs exposedt to the public --> more demand --> more sales) is why it's so strange that the RIAA came out so opposed to making it easy for alternative radio stations to enter the webcasting race. More diverse webcasting could partly offset reduced diversity in over-the-air broadcasting, and drive sales.

      I'm forced to conclude that the RIAA knows that more diverse, alternative radio stations are also more likely to play independent artists and are (maybe) less likely to accept payola, so the RIAA is afraid that the increased sales won't necessarily be of major label releases, and that is the explanation for their opposition to webcasting.

  4. BBC by agrounds · · Score: 5, Informative

    Neo-conservatives strike again! Thanks Mr. Powell!

    The continuing decline of the overall quality of US radio has been my primary motivation in finding alternative music sources. I tried shoutcast and spinner as well as some of the smaller webcast groups. Eventually, I just started listening to Radio 1 from the BBC. This now streams into my home 24/7 as well as my laptop at work. I have never looked back. Hopefully as folks start becoming more disgusted by the dumbed-down and monotonous crap that Clear Channel pumps into Everytown, USA, folks will start to look abroad for entertainment. The music is out there, you just have to look beyond the borders.

    Here ya go!
    Radio 1 - Rock and Pop
    Radio 1 Xtra - Rap and Hip Hop

    Some of the music is exactly what you hear in the US on Clear Channel stations, but there is a hell of a lot more music-base to generate the playlists.

    While you're there, be sure to read/stream the news. CNN has been becoming even more remarkable selective in what they post lately. Another symptom of the disease that infects the deregulated media industries.

    Enjoy!

  5. Strange days by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's strange indeed that the over-the-air broadcasters successfully complained about the threat of cable, when GE, Disney, Viacom and Fox are hip-deep in cable properties themselves. Gotta love them lobbyists!

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  6. There's plenty of diversity on the radio by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like all kinds of music.
    As long as the radio plays both top-40 and pop, it doesn't really matter to me.

  7. Whoo-Hooo! by ambisinistral · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now I'll be able to get even more Clear Channel stations on my radio! My motto is: you can never have too much gruel.

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    deserve's got nothing to do with it...

    1. Re:Whoo-Hooo! by jamesoutlaw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      haha! exactly. Here in Memphis there are about 4 different stations with similar playlists. The really funny thing is that you can start on one station and hear a particular song... switch to any one of the others and you will hear the same song within 10 minutes. Sometimes you can flip through all four stations and you will hear the exact same thing playing on one or two of the other stations. I've pretty much stopped listening to the radio because of it.

  8. PBS anyone? by atallah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps it will be up to PBS to step up and become a real news source much like NPR is on the radio. (True NPR as its own biases, but they seem much less pronounced than any of my alternatives.)

    1. Re:PBS anyone? by atallah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >It's overly biased liberal bullshit.

      I keep hearing that, but i find nothing to back it up. The only explanation i can come up with is that those who make that assertion are so blinded by the ultra-conservative mass media that they can't tell the difference between super-liberal and just not ultra-conservative.

    2. Re:PBS anyone? by atallah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      True... bias is unavoidable. The trick is to identify the bias and compensate.

      I think that NPR offers a more well-rounded perspective that helps limit the bias factor. Of course there are situations that have me pulling out my hair and screaming even on NPR, but far fewer than some shit like FOX or NBC.

      BTW... NPR has been covering this story (FCC deregulation) for weeks rather than the tiny comments of the last couple days that the rest have.

  9. Explanation? by JayBlalock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has Powell, at ANY point, actually outlined how he thinks that allowing for further broadcast television consolidation will help it compete with cable? I could have SWORN the main reason people get cable was for the diversity of the programming.

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    Bush: He's Liberal in all the wrong ways.
  10. A list of the small guys by eludom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like it's time to start maintainin
    a list (web site, blog...) of the
    non-alignend radio & TV stations....vote
    with your tuner.

  11. How much difference will it really make? by abcxyz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It increases the ownership from 35% to 45%, but prevents mergers from the big 4 (Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC). I'm not sure the % increase would make a huge difference anyway, but by not allowing the big guys to merge will keep some semblance of diversity in programming. That's assuming you think there is currently any diversity in OTA offerings.

    Also the radio markets are still limited to a max. of 8 in markets of 45 or greater stations. Same issue as above, if there is no variety now, how in the world are they going to make it much worse?

    -- Rick

  12. Breaking News: Colonel Panic is a Thought Criminal by burgburgburg · · Score: 3, Funny
    All units converge on the last known location of "Colonel Panic" for prompt, efficient, friendly reeducation.

    All those found conversing with the thought criminal will be treated in the same manner. Have a nice day. Or else.

  13. No small cities, and abuse of first amendment by Brians256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With media conglomerations owning local channels, there is no incentive to provide news with a local slant. Thus, no one will hear about local issues. Since (thanks to the incredible human intelligence) nothing exists unless we see/hear it, small cities will cease to exist. I say that only partially in jest, but think about how many local issues that get squashed because it conflicts with a more profitable (in the minds of the corporate master) slant? Local environmental impact? Oh, no. Mustn't give that airtime lest it impact the profit machines in the big cities. Also, how about this for a twist on the first amendment? Condider offensive material. People in different areas have different standards, and THAT'S OK. If your city believes that the Golden Girls are the harem of Satan, it should be able to keep Golden Girl re-runs off their local stations. More power to'em. We shouldn't force global culture to be homogenous, even in the name of "Free Speech" and equal access. Ahh... yet more reasons for rejoicing in our household. We have taken our media budget (TV, movies, etc...) and plowed it into books and other activities.

  14. How soon until by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    somebody sets up 'public access' style internet TV? IPv6 has great multicast handling, and we're getting more and more bandwidth at home. We essentially have all the tools, and millions of potential channels. Anything you want to watch, when you want to watch it, all for the price of cable or dsl.

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  15. Welcome to HELL. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Soon, there will only be a single, united group of consolidated conglomerates, where it will be impossible to discern if what you are watching is entertainment, news, or just a clever marketing ploy. The saddest part of all is that the average citizen doesn't know or care. From American Idol to soundalike "Gangsta Rap," -trademark used by permission of ClearChannel - it is a seamless integration into our culture, where we are being trained by the richest 1% to be complacent with whatever is produced. The ultimate goal is to turn our lives into an MTV frenzy.

    And it is working.

    During the Iraq war I heard it said that the Iraqis had state run media, controlled entirely by the government.

    We have corporate controlled media. Which is worse, I wonder?

    Like figuring out which dildo hurts least going in...

  16. What isn't mentioned by smoondog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What isn't mentioned is that there is growing bipartisan distaste for this ruling. Trent Lott and several democrats have spoken out against it and are talking of bringing the issue to congress. Hopefully more republicans will jump off ship and support Lott and the others.

    -Sean

  17. In Reguard To The Falling CD Sales Article... by aerojad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jukebox Jihad

    That whole comment and the "What would Elvis do to stop piracy?" really annoys me to death. The Jihad comment for taking the word of the month (you know, terror, evil people, so on, so forth), and appling it to something that doesn't relate in the least.

    Why doesn't the industry start talking about real leaks in their profits? Bad press for suing kids for $97 billion comes to mind, a price fixing scandal in the mid 90's gets on that list too, but above all, the state of music, the state of repetative crap that continues to be put out... it's like if 31 flavors determined that most people liked choclate and vanilla. You could get those two and only those two flavors at the counter. The others were still available, but you would have to go to black-market 31 flavors to enjoy it, all the while being called a criminal for spending money you never would have spent if you never made the effort to look for more flavors in the first place.

    The industry must nevertheless also content itself with conducting business on a more modest scale, painful though the process might be. No one needs to spend in excess of $40 million on a record, as Sony did with Michael Jackson's 2001 flop, Invincible, for instance, when the White Stripes can muster a hit record for $10,000.

    That's because the White Stripes is good, and Michael Jackson is getting old. By the way, I like how they skip mentioning that the "flop" sold many millions of records, just not on the same scale as previous, and I don't believe that "Elephant" (latest White Stripes) has cracked 1 million sold anywhere yet...

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  18. In Other News... by crazyphilman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oceania is now allied with Eastasia. Oceania has ALWAYS been allied with Eastasia.

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    Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
  19. Rolling the dice too often by zptdooda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The agency was also six months behind on completing its biennial review. Under a congressional law, the FCC is supposed to revisit its media rules every two years. ... and some urged the agency to ignore its deadline.

    Revisiting the rules so frequently gives too much opportunity for rules to relax to quickly.

    It's like continually asking the question "were we right?", then rolling the dice.

    It's a complex issue, requiring lots of information to be collected and assessed. If this is rushed, it makes it too easy to make a bad call.

    To badly paraphrase "the progress of a society cannot be increased just by speeding it up".

    I think the Ents had it right.

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    Esteem isn't a zero sum game
  20. One possible interpretation by anomaly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is that this is a good thing for content producers. Think of it this way:
    When consumers major media outlets completely cease to produce anything other than plain gelatin in terms of content, who will fill the void? More and more media choices are available every day. Even through the mainstream channel of cable and satellite options, there are more choices and more content produced.

    When people find something creative and appealing, it will give a leg up on the regurgitated reality fare offered by the major players.

    Anyone who thinks that they get the straight scoop from any major outlets - NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, slashdot.... - needs to have their preconceptions evaluated.

    The future of broadcasting is not to be found in the major media outlets. They will be left behind by the next generation of media. It's coming, and making programming more mindless will only hasten the death of TV as we know it.

    This could be a great thing.

    Respectfully,
    Anomaly

    --
    But Herr Heisenberg, how does the electron know when I'm looking?
  21. Dan Gillmor's comments by Big+Dave+Diode · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dan Gillmor wrote a column in advance of this decision, worth a read at http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/598 9915.htm

  22. Re:Welcome to life under the Republicans. by Kamel+Jockey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Welcome to life under the Republicans.

    Do you even know what you're talking about? The current FCC Chairman was appointed by Bill Clinton. The fact that Bush made him chairman doesn't change the fact that Clinton was the one who brought him on board in the first place.

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  23. Re:Time to move to Canada. by Strike · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except that the FCC is required to review the diversity of media every two years and decide whether or not ownership limitations need to be opposed or lifted (this was result of the 2 year anniversary from the last review). So if the media really did become a monoculture and the FCC actually did serve the public interest ... then we'd be okay.

    Oh yeah, you know where I learned that? NPR :)

  24. Re:Shit. by bricriu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, there were the married people making between $10,500 and $26,000 who thought they'd be seeing the increase in the child tax credit... but aren't. Sucks to be them, huh? Hah-hah!

    Ooh, ooh, or those single parents filing as head-of-the-household who won't see a drop in their tax rate. Serves them right for not living like normal God-fearing people!

    I say, hand me another Benjamin, Jeeves: I need to light my cigar.

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  25. Outlived its usefulness by cfulmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, there are going to be two possible things that can come of this: One, the media companies will be effective at giving people what they want. In this case, both consumers and the media companies win.

    The other option is that media companies are not effective at giving people what they want. In this case, people will stop listening to them and the media companies will lose. Consumers will lose a little in that the radios in their cars will become pretty much useless. However, they'll be able to branch out into other forms of entertainment -- DVDs, video games, independent music, web surfing, and so on. The real winners will be the companies that figure out how to give consumers what they want.

    I think that one can make a pretty good argument that the media ownership rules have outlived their usefulness. When each city only had 4 TV stations, a dozen radio stations and one newspaper, the rules made some sense because it guaranteed a wider variety of information and entertainment. But now, if I don't like what's on my local radio station, I can stream music from some independent station across the country. If I think the news from my local ABC news/newspaper/6 favorite radio stations is biased, there are a thousand options for me on the internet.

    I'd argue that local broadcast media (TV/radio) and local newspapers are something of an anachronism anyway, for everything but the local stuff. I don't receive the local paper, because I can go online and read the news (for free). I rarely watch network TV because I have 50 cable stations and I'd rather watch Comedy Central than ABC.

    To me, this seems to be equivilant to complaining about how few choices we have in bus and train transportation, while ignoring the fact that we have so many choices in cars, motorcycles, scooters, bicycles, airplanes, taxis, rollerskates, subways and so on.

  26. Media Consolidation might kill you. by lindner · · Score: 3, Informative
    So, expect to see a big decline in local content, especially if you live in a smaller market. Check out what happened in Minot North Dakota in January 2002.


    In Minot, North Dakota, a train derailed in the wee hours of a cold January morning in 2002. After the accident, Minot was covered in a toxic cloud of anhydrous ammonia fertilizer that killed one person. But when local law enforcement officials tried to warn the community by calling radio station KCJB, they couldn't get through to anyone. Finally, local officials reached station staff by calling them at home, but the snafu lost valuable time.

    Media giant Clear Channel owns all six of Minot's radio stations. Local news for the radio public in Minot is now served by one full-time news employee staffing all of the city's stations. So when an emergency struck, local radio in Minot struck out.


  27. NPR by loomis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just a friendly reminder to try your local national public radio stations. Although these stations aren't typically going to play current new music, often they do indeed run programs which feature new artists in various genres. Their website's music section, which lists upcomming scheduled music radio programs, reviews, and other things, is here.

    At NPR's website, one can enter their zip code and your local NPR frequency will be shown to them.

    On a side note, Clear Channel. Good Lord. Anyone here from Cleveland or familiar with the once-mighty WMMS? It was, during the late 60's and throughout the 70's and 80's, a great station. After several takovers and a seeming going-off-the-air-forever-stunt, Clear Channel picked them up. Today it is this pop-metal station that is the same format in every city. It is a really sad skeleton of a once-revolutionary radio station.

    Loomis

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    "The television is the retina of the mind's eye" - Videodrome
  28. Will this change anything? by niola · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this story at Yahoo, News Corp and Viacom are already in violation of the 35% reach rules as a result of mergers:

    News Corp. and Viacom Inc., which owns CBS and UPN, stand to benefit from a higher national TV ownership cap because mergers have left them above the 35 percent level. Those companies, along with NBC, persuaded an appeals court last year to reject that cap and send it back to the FCC for revision.

    Basically they merged, never divested some stations to become compliant, and have tying up the courts with appeals.

    All this FCC decision does is take it out of the courts and make the mega-media companies happy. They have been breaking the rules all along and instead of punishment, they get rewarded. This decision does nothing good for us, the consumers, who OWN the airwaves.

    Let us not forget that airwaves, just like public lands, are owned by all of us, the people.

    There was a time that in exchange for having a broadcast license, a radio or television station used to have to file reports to show that they were airing programming in the public interest. Now they simply fill out a postcard for the FCC every 5 years or so. Basically they use OUR airwaves for THEIR profit and we get LESS options as a result.

    If you want to make change, get out and vote. Call your senator or representative and let them know you are displeased. Believe it or not, they DO listen. They may not respond to every message, but they do keep a tally on how may letters they receive per a given subject and with enough letters, they will do something.

    --Jon

  29. Re:Welcome to life under the Republicans. by Globe199 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not necessarily talking about the FCC chairman. The vote today was along party lines. It is controlled by the republicans, 3-2.

    I don't care who brought the chairman on board. It was still the republicans who voted for this.

    Globe199

  30. Re:On the otherhand... by GlassHeart · · Score: 3, Informative
    Are we, the general public, capable of sending the right messages to the large corporations, or are we cattle, following where we are led, buying what we are told to buy.

    In a recent interview, Lowry Mays, CEO of Clear Channel, made the following remark: "We're not in the business of providing news and information. We're not in the business of providing well-researched music. We're simply in the business of selling our customers products."

    Therefore, whatever you think Clear Channel is today is whatever the consumers wanted.

  31. ...And Nothing to Watch by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny

    10,000 radio & TV stations
    1,000 channels
    100 years of broadcast history
    10< owners
    And still nothing to watch.

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  32. Re:Bad example by MKalus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    [...] since they stand for what we are NOT wanting to happen to US media.

    Why? As you can see the "free market" thing isn't working that well.

    In fact chances are you get a more balanced view of the world by a government funded news agency (that is as long as same is in a "democratic" state) than you will get from commercial news media.

    Why? Because the people who work for example at the BBC are very much aware that people think of them as the voice of the government and they will try very hard not to act as a propaganda instrument.

    Now private companies like Fox don't have that trouble because everybody seems to think they are independent, when in fact they rely way more on politics than say the BBC, Deutsche Welle or the CBC.

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  33. The Future of Media in the US by Tenebrous · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Double plus good, that! Looks like news, sounds like news, but there's no news in it.

    He who controls the media, controls the people.

  34. And yet... by smcv · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The BBC do have the advantage that they're a government-funded public service, rather than a profit-making business. In the worst case, that'd make them as bad as you describe, but they seem to have avoided that.

    (They do have pretty serious competition on mainstream TV from the commercial ITV and Channel 4, although commercial radio is bad enough here that the BBC wins by default)

    They're often rather critical of the government, actually, and in many disputes they're accused of being biased by both sides, which might well mean they're uncomfortably close to being balanced.

    It's amusing to see the grandparent post commenting on Radio 1's larger playlists though, since some of the Radio 1 DJs have been known to complain (subtly, of course) about the commercial crap they're made to play. I hate to think what Clear Channel must be like if that's an improvement :-)

  35. Re:One Channel My ASS by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with liberalism.

    Market consolidation is just a pretty way of saying COMMUNISM.

    The whole point of capitalism (for those of not Robber Barons) is the beneficial side effects of competition that arise out of multiple players existing in the marketplace. Eliminate choice and diversity from the marketplace and you are left with the unacceptable choice of either putting up with the crap or stop participating in the market.

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  36. Re:Bad example by aborchers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the record, I believe the poster merely advocated the BBC as a source with wider variety on the entertainment content and reporting of news that is, for one reason or another, neglected in the major US media.

    Nonetheless, comparing the BBC to an unregulated corporate convergence in the US media is similarly stupid. The forces involved are just too different. A service that answers to the government (nominally the public) and one that answers only to the bottom line are two entirely different things. The BBC has much more in common with, say, NPR than it does with Viacom or News Corp.

    Take the FCC rule changes as a case in point. I have known about it for months because I follow things like slashdot and NPR, but the first mention I heard of it on NBC was a week ago, and on CNN just this past weekend. Gee, I can't imagine why these corporate news sources that stand to benefit most from the rule changes didn't bother to mention them until it was too late for anyone to react and they were just an aside for a foregone conclusion. This above all other things has me thinking these rule changes were a seriously bad idea.

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  37. Silver Lining by shivianzealot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Look on the bright side, kids; people in my area can, between two stations, watch The Simpsons four times on the average weekday, and soon maybe six or ten!

    I for one, am quite pleased with this decision. It is a great day for Sienfeld re-reuns.

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    Bored with karma, be a fan/freak

  38. Re:One Channel My ASS by b-baggins · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, I didn't realize the FCC just banned anyone from owning a radio station except those five evil corporations. What is the timetable in the FCC regulation for the police and military to storm the independent radio stations, nationalize them and then give them to the "big five?"

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  39. and the FCC actually did serve the public interest by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    and the FCC actually did serve the public interest ... then we'd be okay.

    What exactly have you seen/heard/read during the administration of the FCC by Michael Powell that would indicate to you that any decision they've ever made was done to serve the public interest?

  40. NPR against community broadcasting? by msimm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget NPR along with National Association of Broadcasters has vehemently opposed community microbroadcasting. That coupled with the advertising is enough to keep me from supporting them ever.

    As much as I enjoy (some of) their content I think its sometimes better to let something die to give something else the opportunity to fill the vacuum. Or we continue to limp along with the steady Clear Channelization of public radio.

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    Quack, quack.
  41. Re:One Channel My ASS by snilloc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As a person with solid conservative credentials, I am against this further deregulation. Some media diversity is very important. I watch my fair share of FNC, but MSNBC reported (I think Joe Scarborough did it) that no Newscorp/Rupert Murdock station would accept a PAID ADVERTISEMENT that was against this deregulation.

    That's fine for Fox to refuse certain ads, in the current environment anyway. Now imagine a future where Newscorp or clearchannel or disney owns 98% of a market - they will control all info. You won't even know what the issues are because you will never hear about them.

    The internet is inadequate for solving this problem. Start looking for the "friendly cooperation" links - like the WashPost/Newsweek/MSNBC cluster. Nice, eh? The truth is that Big Media controls a lot of the internet too. Popular exceptions are rare - Drudge Report, for instance - but often lack "credibility" in the minds of many.

  42. Wrong by missing000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    On at least one point...

    ...this was result of the 2 year anniversary from the last review

    The FCC is supposed to review every 2 years, but the last review was actually 8 year ago. In another 8 years things will be pretty awful if the critics are right.
    Also, if the media becomes one great big company, who is really going to go up against it? That company would effectively control politics in this country.

    I'm keeping my eyes on the boarder for now.

  43. They do have one rule that binds them... by Pollux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...the Golden Rule. You know...he who has the gold makes the rules.

    It's rather sad, really. Here's a good example why: My home state is North Dakota. When Grand Forks and Fargo had a three-day ice storm during the winter of '96-'97, there was a radio station in town which 24-7 covered every single piece of news or announcement related to the event. Even with the phone lines down, our high school speech team was able to use the radio to tell everybody back home that we were alright.

    On the other hand, a little more than a year ago, Minot (town of about 38,000 people in central North Dakota) had a train carrying anhydrous ammonia (cheap fertilizer) that derailed in the town early in the morning. Everybody instinctively turned on the radio (either after hearing the crash, seeing a huge white cloud of ammonia coming their way, or feeling the smoke burn their lungs) to find out what was going on, only to hear music. Six of the seven radio stations in Minot are owned by ClearChannel. Afterwards, when asked for a comment, ClearChannel said that they were in the business of playing music and selling advertising, not 24-7 local news coverage.

    It's about the money.

    1. Re:They do have one rule that binds them... by Pollux · · Score: 3, Informative

      there are plenty of non-locally-owned radio and television stations that are staffed at all times, and can break into local programming with news flashes, even if most of their operations are centrally controlled.

      Yea. Too bad none of them are owned by ClearChannel.

      ClearChannel has over 1200 radio stations. They also have 200 employees. You do the math.

      And, as this poster said, there is only one full-time employee manning those six stations. But I'm sure that ClearChannel is responsible enough that they have that one employee man those stations 24-7.

    2. Re:They do have one rule that binds them... by spurious+cowherd · · Score: 3, Informative

      according to reports from local authorities they tried, nobody answered the phones

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  44. Re:Time to move to Canada. by praedor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All well and good, but no doubt they will be just as open for public comment as they were on the ruling itself. Let's see, most human beings were against the rule change while monsters like Big Corporations were all that mattered.


    The FCC will have a massive blindspot for the tremendous deficiencies in the media as long as Bush and buds are in power. They are NOT interested in furthering dissenting voices' (anything other than conservative Republican cheerleaders) access to the airwaves. They are NOT interested in ANYTHING that doesn't further pad the pockets of rich corporate heads in the media. They are NOT interested in anything that might produce news media that isn't 100% behind the current regime.


    Unless there is a new Administration in 2 years, the rules will be a priori assumed good regardless of public comment or real evidence to the contrary.

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  45. Huge by moc.tfosorcimgllib · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Newspapers, TV Stations, and Radio stations will soon have the same parent company.
    In reality this will hurt in that Newspapers will be bought by bigger corporations (clear channel), and the content will be dumbed down, local personalities will be "Right-sized" to control profit margins in place of Market researched personalities.

    This hurts, and you will notice the difference. Right now newspapers and newsstations keep each other in check by double-checking facts. Soon you will have one person double-checking facts for the radio, newspaper, and television. You get one slant, one idea, and one perspective from all three. That is where the diversity will be lost. I hope you like reading BBC newspapers over the internet, because soon that's where the best news you get will come from.

  46. Re:and the FCC actually did serve the public inter by missing000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    To make matters worse, the review is anti-consumer.

    If you look at the Media Access Page, you will see that the federal courts force the FCC to "re-justify every major ownership rule or strike it from the books" every time there is a review.

    The problem here is that the same corporations that want the relaxed rules also are among the largest soft-money donors. They buy the legislators and then demand favors.

  47. Re:Welcome to life under the Republicans. by szquirrel · · Score: 4, Informative

    The current FCC Chairman was appointed by Bill Clinton.

    That means nothing. No FCC commission may have more than three members from any one party. On top of that, Powell was appointed in 1997 when the Senate (which must approve appointees) was controlled by Republicans. So not only was Clinton required to appoint a Republican, but any choice not approved by the rest of the Republican party would have been shot down.

    You and all the people who modded you up Insightful are just repeating the same tired, meaningless defense of Powell's ultra-conservative deregulation binge.

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  48. Re:Time to move to Canada. by Matrix272 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is with the bias against large companies? It always amazes me that almost everyone on Slashdot is against any large company simply BECAUSE it's a large company. What's so bad with a large company controlling more of what you see and hear? Think about it logically... which might be tough for some of you government-school-educated youngsters...

    A company is concerned with profit. Profit comes from customers. Customers come from people that are pleased with what you provide. If you don't please people with what you provide, you don't get customers, and you don't make a profit. If you don't make a profit, you go out of business, and someone else takes your place. The Big Corporations aren't the enemy... the public is the enemy. If the public is diversified enough to demand more variety in their television and radio, then the Big Corporations will create more programming to suit those needs. If those needs aren't being filled, a new company will be formed to fill them (and at worst, the Big Corporation will buy the small company when it becomes a menace to their profits, but the Big Corporation will keep the programming that made them successful, thus increasing their profit).

    I don't see how politics has anything to do with the FCC's decision, but as long as you bring it up, nobody said anything when ABC, CBS, and NBC were the only stations in the market, so why worry now that Fox (and Rupert Murdoch) are becoming successful? Again, the law of supply and demand kicks in.

    Step 1: Demand conservative-biased news reporting.
    Step 2: Supply conservative-biased news reporting.
    Step 3: Profit!

    Why is this so difficult to understand? With all the coverage it's getting, you can hardly say that the "current regime" is "NOT interested in anything that might produce news media that isn't 100% behind" them. It's the simplest of economic rules and it's been working since the dawn of time, yet you continue to put the political spin on it. Why are you so afraid of a little competition from someone who obviously understand economics?

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  49. Re: limitations need to be opposed or lifted by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Except, I don't see the option to put limitations back in. So if it does become a monoculture, there isn't much the FCC could do.

    It takes a partisan 3 to 2 FCC vote to relax regulations so the conservative CEO's of Fox and Clearchannel can have yet more power, but it would take a huge (think ma-bell proportion) congressional act to cut them back down if they ever get too big.

    I really wish the FCC had to explain (and justify) why they think it's in the public interest to allow mega media companies to expand further. So far their reason is, "well, we couldn't think of any good reason not to!", even though thousands of americans emailed and called in plenty of reasons against deregulation.

  50. Re:One Channel My ASS by cgreuter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    but MSNBC reported (I think Joe Scarborough did it) that no Newscorp/Rupert Murdock station would accept a PAID ADVERTISEMENT that was against this deregulation.

    This surprised me not at all.

    A few years back, when Murdoch was a Canadian citizen, he tried to get British Peerage, which is illegal for Canadians and so was blocked by the Prime Minister. This did not please Murdoch and so the issue became front-page news on the National Post, the Canadian national newspaper he'd founded not long before. That's right--he used his newspaper chain as a venue for a temper tantrum. (IIRC, Murdoch eventually gave up Canadian citizenship so he could get his lordship. Good riddance, I say.)

    More seriously, he also ordered all of his papers to run editorials opposing a particular major land-claim settlement with various First Nations groups.

    And then, there was the town that got so pissed off at him that they started their own local newspaper.

    Anyway, y'all had best start investing in printing presses and broadcast licenses. The only way you'll get decent media now is if you make it yourselves.

  51. Nope by missing000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Republicans get just a bit more than the Democrats.

    Both sums are really sick though.

  52. NEITHER OF YOU GET IT!!! by alizard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Who "sponsors" major PBS programming? Most of the time, it's Fortune 50 companies like ADM that the general public has never heard of, but the upscale demographic PBS caters to have.

    The Limbot is invited to tell me just what kind of "ultraliberalism" a Fortune 50 company is likely to sponsor. He is also invited to tell me about how liberal Warren Buffet is (owner of Berkshire, owner of whe Washington Post.

    The whining about the "ultra-liberal" mass media used to come from conservatives.

    The mass media isn't ultra-conservative, they're the same people who promote and broadcast and sell the entertainment content that the Religious Right whine about.

    The proper description for the agenda of both PBS and the mass media is corporatist. The agenda is about social control via news management for the benefit of the people who buy advertising, and that isn't your average "progressive" group and that isn't the average limbot.

  53. Wrong media baron by hawkestein · · Score: 3, Informative

    A few years back, when Murdoch was a Canadian citizen...

    You've got your media barons confused. You're thinking of Conrad Black. Rupert Murdoch's an Aussie. Black owns lots of newspapers, whereas Murdoch only owns one (New York Post?). Not sure if Black owns any TV stations.

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