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North Korea's School For Hackers?

Makoto writes "How do you launch a cyber-war with no IP infrastructure? South Korea claims that North Korea is training about 100 "cybersoldiers" per year in electronic warfighting tools and techniques, including writing viruses and hacking. But according to a story at Wired News, North Korea can barely keep its electrical grid up - not to mention feed its people. Even the Pentagon says North Korea's hacker academy is probably just propaganda by South Korea."

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  1. that's true. by twitter · · Score: 2, Informative
    People from South Korea have told me about all sorts of nutty things the Commies do. They send commandos into South Korea to plant weapons and explosives. You hear about it every now and then where a group gets caught, but the "objective" western media miss many damning details. North Korea gets up to this kind of stuff despite their own people not having enough to eat.

    It may be just for "propaganda". Propaganda is very important to them. Blocking legitimate communications, astroturfing and sabotage are not just popular in Redmond.

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  2. Quoted from... by Gheesh · · Score: 2, Informative

    This User Friendly strip :-)

  3. Re:Well, c'mon... by jericho4.0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This site, the Federation of American Scientists, has a comprehensive look at DRK's nuclear program. They're a lot more real than Iraq's WMD. It might be debatable if they have one today, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.

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  4. Re:Why Not? by RealAlaskan · · Score: 1, Informative
    ... we still have not found any weapons of mass destruction In Iraq ...

    Why would this matter, to you or to anyone else? Whether or not Hussein was able to successfully build stuff to kill us, he was still able to kill his own people, and we put a stop to that.

    Do you think that it really doesn't matter what the wogs do to each other? I think that the people there are human, and it would have been terribly inhumane to leave them to suffer from Hussein and the Baathists.

    There were three entirely adequate reasons for the US to attack Iraq:
    1) Its government appeared to be trying to build weapons which it could use against us, and would surely have used them against us if it could.
    2) Its government was surely sponsoring terrorism.
    3) Its government was murdering its citizens to stay in power.

    Points (1) and (2) might seem doubtful to you, though not (before the invasion) to anyone who didn't have contracts there. Point (3) has never been disputed, before or after, by even the most rabid Baathist or French propaganda minister.

    If we DO find some WMD there, we can all shiver a delicious shiver and say: ``Wow! that was close!'', but it won't matter. Saving the Iraqis from their own government was far more than reason enough.

    I think that the only question remaining about the invasion of Iraq is: ``Which tyrant is next?''

  5. Re:Why Not? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Informative

    Point of fact, there are some countries, France chief among them, who base their entire foreign policy on automatically opposing the United States. You can bet that these opponents would surely attempt to thwart any U.S. interventions in Africa. In addition, France in particular considers large regions of Africa within its spehre of interest, and would rabidly oppose a great increase in U.S. power anywhere near those areas.

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  6. Re:Training by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have to agree. I learned on DOS on a 286(I'm 15) and I'm a hell of a lot more dangerous than my friends who had the latest Intel chip(a 486 with win3.1) at the time.


    The 486 was only the latest intel chip for 3 years: 1991-1993. If you are 15 now in 2003, this means you were 3 to 5 years old at the time.

    There is a difference between learning how to USE a computer and learning how to "hack".

  7. Re:North Korea - a picture is worth a thousand wor by Alsee · · Score: 2, Informative

    LOL. If you want to ridicule a post by echoing it and "reversing" who it talks about, you have to make sure the reversal maintains atleast a smidgin of truth. Otherwise you just make yourself look like an idiot.

    That black hole of a country

    On that map North Korea is in fact a "black hole". It looks like ocean. The United states is by far the brightest region, with "the whole of euorpe" coming in a close second.

    the world's LARGEST ARMY and LARGEST NUMBER OF NUKES.

    You are demonstrating pure ignorance. China has the worlds larget army, 2.9 million servicemen, more than double the US's 1.4 million. Russia has the most nukes, well over twice as many as the US.

    They are diverting their entire economy (what little there is of it) to supporting that army and building weapons.

    North Korea spends somewhere between 20% and 30% of its GDP on its military while approximately 10% of its population has starved to death in recent years. The US spends somewhere between 4.3% and 5.7% on its military, and the US spends a higher percentage of its miliary spending on RESEARCH, compared to all western nations. The US provides food (food stamps) to anyone who needs them.

    The North American government is incredibly isolationist

    LMAO! Isolationist?? The usual complaint is the exact the opposite.

    and paranoid.

    The US thinks that there are terrorists trying to blow up Americans and American buildings. Americans and American builings are in fact blowing up.

    In this document North Korea accuses the UN and the International Atomic Energy Agency of conspiring to harm North Korea. Part of the "proof" of this supposed conspiracy is the fact that North Korea is reffered to as "North Korea" rather than as "DPRK". They take a "serious view" of this "insult to their soverignty". This document is fairly typical of North Korean perception on international relations. Not to mention their constant fear that at any moment the 38,000 US personel and South Korea's half million servicemen are going to charge head-long into what is undoubtedly the most heavily forified border in the world, against the third largest army in the world.

    As for Liberation, Iraqis were in fact dancing in the streets and toppling Saddam statues. Somehow I don't think you are going to find many South Koreans welcoming North Korean forces.

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