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Defense Dept. Memo Explains Open Source Policy

TonyStanco writes "Big news. DoD issued a policy statement leveling the playing field for Open Source. We have the memo on the Center of Open Source & Government site." The requirements listed in this memo make me think of a company policy along the lines of "You can bring your baby or toddler to work, so long as it can talk, feed itself and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider." See this PDF for more information about National Security Telecommunications and Information Systems Security Policy (NSTISSP) number 11.

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  1. Eeep. Spider-babies by KU_Fletch · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can bring your baby or toddler to work, so long as it can talk, feed itself and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider." Thanks for that, now everytime the AC comes out at work I'm going to expect an army of spider-babies to pop out and steal my printer.

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  2. Explains Open Source Policy -- Excuse Me by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny
    Explains Open Source Policy

    Isn't that putting it a bit strongly?

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  3. True Story... by craenor · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is bureaucracy?

    This guy wants to clean out a room in the Pentagon, stacked to the ceiling with boxes labeled, "non-essential documents". So he starts a study showing how much space they can save by ridding themselves of all of these useless documents.

    A few months later they complete this study, and send it up for a review. A board determines that this is a great idea and they can in fact save tons of space by ridding themselves of all of these documents, with one stipulation. They must make copies of all the documents for their records...

    Craenor

    1. Re:True Story... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Funny
      I live in a military town, and hence know a lot of folks that work in the local military bases (from actual military personel to contractors to just plain non-affiliated civilians). I have heard many such stories.

      My favorate involves moving a set of offices (used by Naval training personel, my friend is an officer and IT worker in said office) from Windows 98 and 2000 to Redhat. Yes, it is happening in a few places withing the military. Anyways, the IT staff there has been utilizing Linux and BSD for years, and decided to write up a report to outline it's effectiveness and security so that they could obtain approval to use it for all of the desktops under their control. Needless to say, they got approval with the usual stipulations (such as: some workstations demand Windows for certain software that only runs on Win32, and emulation is not an option). But, the military wanted them to also keep on hand a collection of spare Windows 2000 workstations "just in case", because "Linux is not yet proven" - that was their honest answer (why they needed entire workstations and not just a collection of "ready to go" Ghost images was a point of laughter in itself). The total: 50 workstations for a network of 200 systems. The cost of paying for those workstations and then keeping them on hand, and then paying for the Win2k clients and licenses for the next year was nearly triple the cost of moving the existing workstations over to Redhat 7.x (which was the newest RH release at the time) and hiring outside training for whatever training they might need (which didn't involve a move to Open or Star Office, because they were planning on running Microsoft Office anyways).

      One of the people that "approved" the move was father-in-law for a local Microsoft sales person. Sure the plan got "approval" due to it's merits, but the contigency plan effectively killed the move.

  4. Hum.. by JFMulder · · Score: 4, Funny

    and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider
    Better start here then.

  5. I don't see the problem... by bethanie · · Score: 5, Funny

    My toddler can do all that. Can't yours?

    ....Bethanie....

  6. Re:Not the same memo by Repton · · Score: 4, Funny

    The PDF linked from the article is also dated Jan 2000, and also doesn't mention the GPL ...

    <shrug>

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  7. 'e's not dead, 'e's just restin' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    [n/t]

  8. Re:OSSis not a toddler. by iopha · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also known as the 'trainspotting' child policy.

    iopha

  9. Baby... Spider... What? by ryanvm · · Score: 5, Funny

    "You can bring your baby or toddler to work, so long as it can talk, feed itself and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider."

    Hi Timothy, we'd like to make you an honorary member of our organization - PIFCA (People Incapable of Forming Cogent Analogies).

    You belong with us like a marmot is comfortable with peanut butter.

    1. Re:Baby... Spider... What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      You belong with us like a marmot is comfortable with peanut butter.

      These Richard Gere jokes are starting to get tired...

  10. Re:Waivers by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny
    or where U.S. lives may be at risk
    Which pretty much rules out the use of any Microsoft software for any US military application, anytime, anywhere ...
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  11. In other news: by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can bring your baby or toddler to work, so long as it can talk, feed itself and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider."

    In other news, Safeco has been reported to have replaced all their acustic cieling material with velco in order that their company wide pre-toddler policy can be implemented. In order to prevent possible liability, they had to replace their traditional furnature with what can only be described as a rubber room.

    When asked about the subject, representatives of Safeco were unavailable for comment, but issued the following statement, "we are cleaning baby vomit out of our clothing".

    According to one district manager, "I can't tell if productivity is up or down, i'm stuck. Help!".

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  12. Earth Governments Are Fools by earthisfun · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why bother with OSS when you can simply pay $30,000 per Microsoft license? They paid that much for a toilet, they might as well pay that much more for something to flush down it!

    1. Re:Earth Governments Are Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Isn't the shitload supposed to go IN the toilet?

      Yeah, it's silly humor, but what the heck ...

  13. The Bird Report by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny
    Military culture has a lot of its own urban legends and stories. One of my favorites is The Bird Report (mainly because I've run in to this kind of situation several times in various gov't and private bureaucracies):

    A Sgt. had developed a habit of blowing off a few hours each day by checking out a GOV and driving a circuit around the outside of the flightline and along some of the base's back roads. To justify his routine (and provide additional entertainment), the Sgt. made an informal count of the base bird population as observed during his drive. On returning to the office, he would burn off some additional time typing out a Base Bird Population Report and sending it on to HQ.

    The routine continued for the better part of a year. The Sgt. did his rounds and made his submissions to whatever HQ blackhole the bogus report would end up. But eventually the whole scam lost its charm, the Sgt. lost his interest, and the Base Bird Population Report ended.

    Three months passed. The Sgt. had all but forgotten about the Bird Report until he received a memo from HQ. The memo informed him, rather tersely, that he was 3 months late on the Base Bird Population Report.

    It seems someone at HQ had created a job of filing the Bird Reports. What had started as a bogus exercise with no real reason had become a requirement.
  14. Re:Gawd. If code were written that way . . . by orangesquid · · Score: 3, Funny

    How else would you eval something :)

    Depending on the time period:
    "Is it IBM? If not, you're fired." or "Is it IBM? If so, you're fired."

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  15. What difference would it make? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you GPLed the software that controls your guided missiles, where are you going to get a platform to run it on? Meanwhile, perhaps some of the guidance algorithms could be modified into something useful to the general public. After all, they are *my* missiles too - my taxes paid for them.

    1. Re:What difference would it make? by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dear Mr Bush.
      thank you for disseminating the binaries to the missle guidance software to me via the onboard computer in the handily packaged LBU100 bomb which was delivered by US Military couriers today.

      I find, however, that you neglected to include the software to this device, especially the arming and control routines.
      Please deliver to me, within a reasonable time, said software as you are obliged to under the terms of the GPL, and I shall ensure that the delivery package is returned as soon as possible.

      yours Sincerely.
      O bin Laden (Mr.) :-)

    2. Re:What difference would it make? by spitzak · · Score: 4, Funny

      You only get the source if the executable is delivered to you. If the US government is delivering a missle to you you probably won't have much time or incentive to use that source code!

  16. Family Guy - Da Bomb episode by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can bring your baby or toddler to work, so long as it can talk, feed itself and stick effortlessly to the ceiling like a spider.

    Stewie?