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AzrealAO writes "Futuremark and nVidia have released statements regarding the controversy over nVidia driver optimzations and the FutureMark 2003 Benchmark. "Futuremark now has a deeper understanding of the situation and NVIDIA's optimization strategy. In the light of this, Futuremark now states that NVIDIA's driver design is an application specific optimization and not a cheat."" So nVidia's drivers are optimized specifically to run 3DMark2003... and that's not a cheat.
and i didn't use a cheat sheet, i used a memory priming sheet.
I never said I was smart, I just said I was smarter than you
So nVidia's drivers are optimized specifically to run 3DMark2003... and that's not a cheat
Errrr... that seems like a cheat to me!
Davak
But then, I'm Bill Gates.
Oh, it seems some careless individual has left this big pile of money on the table! Well, we'll just leave for a few moments and maybe when we come back it will have gone away.
It's not cheating if you don't get caught.
Oh, I did get caught?
No, I didn't. Let's move on, shall we?
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Well, that's excellent... now they can put 'Designed to run 3Dmark2003' on Nvidia product boxes!
I am a filthy pirate.
... FutureMark and NVidia stated that they were proud to announce that former President Bill Clinton had joined their boards and had assumed management responsibilities.
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All your benchmarks are belong to us!
"So on one hand, honey is an amazingly sophisticated and efficient food source. On the other hand it's bee backwash."
Editorial comments like this are wonderful. They make the best shine out in all of us to which we can feel profoundly enlightened. Michael I thank you for taking the time to summarize two press releases by stating the complete obvious, if not for you I might just have been forced to click those god-awful annoying hyper-links.
Since you've obviously missed the "concern" over this whole issue let me help you out in also stating the obvious. Creating a chipset that can run the futuremark settings profoundly instead of processing them like a benchmark is supposed to is a way of, get this, testing out the performance of a piece of hardware. Basically what futuremark has made abundantly clear here is that they are to be viewed not as a benchmark, but as an industry whore who was previously considered a graphics card benchmarking standard that is now seen as a useless tool as it doesn't do what it claims to do.
Benchmarks don't need "helpers" and "shortcuts" they need to test out all the parts of the testing subject to show what it is that subject is truly capable of. So futuremark is in bed with graphics card manufacturers, this is no real surprise, it's just they've sealed their fate as being a worthless benchmark and nothing more than eye candy from now on.
Perhaps you should use the "comment" link like the rest of us common folk and try to acknowledge that you are actually older than 4. Writing your name up on the front of the board for everyone to see really loses its nostalgia around age 6, I hope.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
Ha, yes and we all know how well that works, don't we? You mark my words, we'll see nVidia's tanks rolling over Poland by Christmas...
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"Cheating? Our developers, The Franklin Family, would disagree. I think a meeting can be arranged with them, if you wish. Isn't that right Mr. Franklin?"
*shakes hundred dollar bill side to side, speaks in high tone out of side of mouth*
"Sure is, Boss!"
This is politics at its worst, and I'm calling bullshit.
You know, maybe that was the idea? Imagine the scenario: "Okay, folks, we need to rephrase the statement that 'NVidia cheated' so that they won't sue our pants off our asses. What can we come up with?"
'I know! Let's call it an application-specific enhancement! Their lawyers will stare blankly, but any geek shopping for a video card will read right through it!'
Who knows? Coulda happened that way. :)
!#@%*)anks for hanging up the phone, dear.
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You have got to be the only troll to get modded to +5 practically every time you post. Quite a feat, actually.
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And I suppose people who cheat at online MMRGPs are just using undocumented program calls and extended functionality. It's all so clear now...
What would be great...
If someone was to reverse engineer the drivers, remove the "Optimisation", recompile and compare results. See what percent the "Optimisations" fudged the results.
Stop the Slashdot effect! Don't read the articles!
optimize
verb. optimized, optimizing, optimizes
See cheat.
1. Jimmy optimized his test score when the teacher wasn't looking.
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Thanks for the clarification! Most of these comments are just yelling 'cheater!' as if they were playing counterstrike!
A few months ago, in a dark warehouse in Brooklyn...
*knock* *knock* *knock*
nVidia: Who is it?
*Futuremark goons enter stage left*
Futuremark: You's late wit you's beta program "membership dues". You know what happens wit da peoples dat don't pay they's dues, right?
nVidia: Piss off! We're not paying this year.
Futuremark: Dat's a pretty benchmark score you got there. Be a shame is somethin' BAD happened to it...
*Futuremark pushes nVidia's benchmark trophy over, shattering it*
Futuremark: oops. Looks like ATI is faster dis year. Dat's too bad for you's guys. You sure you don't wants to join da beta?
nVidia: You bastards! Get out!
Futuremark: Think about it. Da boss wants you on board this year, or bad things happen.
*exeunt goons stage left*
nVidia: No more "beta membership dues". We're going to beat those Futuremark goons at their own crooked game!
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Futuremark Statement:
Paragraph 1: We're making a statement.
Paragraph 2: nVidia didn't really cheat.
Paragraph 3: Most computer games cheat.
Paragraph 4: We don't allow companies to cheat in their code.
Paragraph 5: Therefore, we should cheat in ours.
Nvidia Statement: They should have worked with us for a better cheat.
Joint Statement:We should all cheat together.
Footer 1: Futuremark rocks.
Footer 2: Don't steal our IP.
Footer 3: Nvidia rocks.
Footer 4: Really it does.
Footer 5: Of course, we could be lying.
Footer 6: Don't steal our IP.
The ______ Agenda