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Sharp Zaurus SL-C750 English Conversion

DavonZ writes "I have just released a small review/information on the Sharp Zaurus SL-C750 and the Dynamism English conversion. This is one sweet unit. You can check it out at nvmax.com."

106 comments

  1. Borken dynamism link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try this instead.

    1. Re:Borken dynamism link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what was broken about the original link?

      at least link to the SL 700 series page...

    2. Re:Borken dynamism link by wavelet · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Borken dynamism link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The editors have since fixed the broken link. At the time the story was originally published, it did not work.

    4. Re:Borken dynamism link by Guylhem · · Score: 1

      You can also see the Zaurus forums on http://externe.net/zaurus/forum

  2. Dynamism link... by AntonyL · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dynamism link should be http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml

    (hope I got that right)

    1. Re:Dynamism link... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The link in the article takes you to the same damn place.

  3. But wait, that's not all... by cyt0plas · · Score: 4, Funny

    It has been announced that they have decided to follow in google's footsteps. The Pig Latin, Hacker(h4x04) and Klingon translations are coming soon.

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    1. Re:But wait, that's not all... by localghost · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Bork, bork, bork! I'd be lost without that one.

  4. Thank the developers of your favourite browser... by amorsen · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...for letting you override that abysmal colour scheme.

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  5. The real question is... by malocchio · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the real question isn't how much better the 750 is, but how good is the translation?

    1. Re:The real question is... by AntiTuX · · Score: 1

      as in, Engrish?

    2. Re:The real question is... by malocchio · · Score: 1

      If I were asian I would be offended, but I'm not..so: will some asain be insulted for me as I laugh?

  6. Older Zaurus more innovative ... this 1 promising by adzoox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I wish they'd have kept the innovative design of the previous Zaurus rather than gone BACK to the Mini Laptop. (The previous version just made me feel like I had the Newton of my dreams) Hiding the keyboard quickly was great if you want to "printtype" (handwriting recognition & typing for special characters quickly), plus there's a balance and weight issue in the hand since the back of the new unit will weigh more leverage wise.

    Still, the Zaurus IMHO is now superceded by the Sony Clie NZ90. When the new Clies hit the street this summer (an NZ90 slimmer version with integrated 802.11b and 400Mhz Xscale) I'm a buyer.

    About the only thing I think exciting about this model is its ability to possibly run a scaled down version of Mac On Linux or the Mac System 6 emulator that already exists. Using Photoshop and REAL Word on a PDA is pretty neat!

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  7. Bunny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's with the... uh... bunny on the left of the page?

    What kind of company is this?

    1. Re:Bunny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What's with the... uh... bunny on the left of the page?
      You mean this one? (It's in their image rotation.)

      Even so... huh.
  8. L O L ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As Nick Burns, the company computer guy, might say.

  9. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you, Microsoft, for making my favorite browser Internet Explorer.

  10. more info by loomis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's another minor review and pictures via brighthand.

    Also, a user at externe has posted about his first impressions in the Zaurus forums.

    Good info in case the importer's/converter's website gets slashdotted.

    Loomis

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  11. The Zaurus line by Daimaou · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have owned several Zaurus machines (both the English SL-5500 as well as several Japanese versions). I have also owned an iPaq and several Palm devices from both Palm and Handspring.

    The Zaurus line is by far my favorite. I have really enjoyed the functionality of the SL-5500 and the flexibility of the Japanese versions I owned. I especially like the expansion modules available for my DBII machine.

    The Zaurus machines seem a lot more sturdy to me as well. I was a bit concerned regarding the SL-5500's sliding keyboard cover before I purchased it, but it has proven to be sturdy and well made.

    I really like the looks of this new offering from Sharp and look forward to using one.

    1. Re:The Zaurus line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have owned several Zaurus machines (both the English SL-5500 as well as several Japanese versions). I have also owned an iPaq and several Palm devices from both Palm and Handspring.

      Jesus H Christ on a pogo-stick, how much do you make a year? Can you buy me a Zaurus, too?

    2. Re:The Zaurus line by antiMStroll · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those interested, Tiger Direct is selling 'recertified' 5500s with a three month warranty for just under $300 CDN. I had mine long enough to just fully charge the battery before upgrading to the latest Sharp ROM (5600 equiv)from the My Zaurus site. Very sweet, and a ridiculous steal at a quarter the C750's price.

  12. Re:Older Zaurus more innovative ... this 1 promisi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running on this thing Mac-On-Linux isn't going to happen. MOL (just) helps virtualize the PowerPC hardware so that MacOS can run. This PDA is based on Intel's new ARM chips; it's a totally different platform.

  13. same old QWERTY keyboard... by Thinkit3 · · Score: 0

    Why not put a dvorak keyboard on it? I suppose it may be software-configurable like every other OS.

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    1. Re:same old QWERTY keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      probably because only 10 people in the world GIVE A FUCK about dvorak. That's just a guess though.

    2. Re:same old QWERTY keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because 99.9% of the western world uses Qwerty. The rest have so much cum stuck in their keyboard that their opinions don't matter, since they can't actually type.

    3. Re:same old QWERTY keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why not put a dvorak keyboard on it? I suppose it may be software-configurable like every other OS.

      Exactly, Dvorak is far superior than the old Qwerty! And while they're at it, where's the Ogg Vorbis compatability?

  14. official site (in Japanese) by mblase · · Score: 3, Informative

    While they obviously lack the English conversion, you can also see the SL-C750 and SL-C760 at the Japenese eZaurus.com site.

    1. Re:official site (in Japanese) by seanthenerd · · Score: 1

      Babelfish Translation:
      Right Here!
      Flash doesn't translate so well, but it's better than nothing!

  15. Re:Older Zaurus more innovative ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are SEVERAL emulations in the works, the Xscale is a RISC processor and better able to emulate the PPC (PPC on the whole is a better chip for emulation) - this is one reason Virtual Game Station for the Mac was a lot smoother - PSX ran on RISC chip/RISC better for emulation.

  16. It isn't as promising as you claim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new Zaurus hasn't promised a thing, thus it breaks no promises...it's just a little better than the previous. I'm waiting for the YOPY to arrive on the market; it will be my next purchase! My GeForceFX is more promising. Why? Not because it was slower at first release... Look at it [GeForceFX] a different way, can your mother^H^H^H^H^H^Honly girl you know use a Zaurus to do this with her hair? Or can a Zaurus clean your neighborhood?

    I rest my unmodded case...

    1. Re:It isn't as promising as you claim by fliplap · · Score: 1

      Uh, the YOPY has been on the market for a _long_ time. There's actually a couple different versions now.
      Go look:
      http://www.yopy.com/
      (btw, they're _really_ expensive for what they are)

  17. Is it just me.... by technoviper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... or is $800 too expensive for a handheld ? For that price you can get a halfway decent notebook (in English no less!)

    1. Re:Is it just me.... by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      $800 ? They must be smokin crack. Is this what we have come to in order to use PDA's that run Linux? I can get a Dell Axim (That has to pay the Msoft tax for PPC 2002) and the same specs hardware wise (CPU, Memory, Expansion Slots, etc.) sans the keyboard for about $500 dollars cheaper. I could buy a nice thumboard for $500!! And as the message I am replying to already stated -- I could get in on a good laptop for about $900. I bet I could get a lot more out of a 40 Gig HD, Full Screen, 256 Meg $800 laptop than I could a 64 meg "pocket" device that costs the same.

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    2. Re:Is it just me.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, $800 is too much for this when that is the price of a low end laptop.

      I just got a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 for $200 and the 256MB memory card and 11Mb wireless network card are on order for about another $100.00

      $300 for a device that fits in my hand and can do wireless network and hold a quarter meg of data onboard seems reasonable to me.

    3. Re:Is it just me.... by terzyva · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You can get the original japanese version for $629 at conics.net, and convert it to English yourself. Or buy it in Japan directly at a discount shop, and pay less than $500. Still not cheap, but it's rather obvious that you'll pay a hefty premium for a direct import of a product that isn't available locally.

      It's silly to compare it to the Dell Axim, since the C750 has four times the screen resolution (640x480), twice the RAM (64MB), and twice the flash ROM (64 MB, half available for user storage). An external keyboard isn't the same thing, since that would make the Axim much larger than the C750 which already has a good keyboard built in.

      If you want a laptop instead, by all means get one, but don't complain if it won't fit in your shirt pocket...

      -Klaus

    4. Re:Is it just me.... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      No, this is just the 'latest and greatest'.

      You can get a Zaurus 5500 at amazon.com for US $341.99, or the 5600 for US $454.99. I'm sure other places will be able to do it cheaper.

      The 5600, with 400MHz processor and 64MB flash is still a perfectly respectable machine.

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    5. Re:Is it just me.... by efficacymanUM · · Score: 1

      Also, there is quite a bit of an issue with the core OS of the dell Axiam (windows CE). As i remember, all current versions of the windowsCE family are optimized for the last generation of ARM processor cores (ie the cores that topped out at 206mhz rather than the faster x-scale cores). On the otherhand, since the Zaurus is based upon linux, a recompile of the core operating system to optimize for the x-scale core would be much simpler and doable without microsofts permission. Combined with the parent posters points on comparing the two machines, comparing the dell Axiam to the C750 is just plain ignorant.

    6. Re:Is it just me.... by terzyva · · Score: 1

      To be fair, a simple recompile won't help much. The reason why the xscale is running far below its theoretical speed for most applications is that it spends most of its time waiting for RAM access. This was especially bad on the older PXA250 xscale, since it only has a 100 MHz memory clock, and the 206 MHz StrongArm with its 103 MHz memory clock was even a bit faster for some applications.

      So the only way to make good use of the 400 MHz clock is to rewrite your application to ensure that the 32kB cache is used as effectively as possible, so that the program can run at full speed. That's not something that a compiler can do for you, since it will usually involve changing algorithms and data structures, and may not even be possible depending on what the application is doing.

      The reason that the newer PXA255 (as used in the C750) is faster is due to its doubled 200 MHz memory clock, which makes this problem much less bad.

      -Klaus

    7. Re:Is it just me.... by shotgunefx · · Score: 1

      I got my Zaurus 5500 at www.hippov.com for ~$265

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    8. Re:Is it just me.... by terzyva · · Score: 1

      A correction - after some disappointing benchmarks and some digging on the web, it turns out that only the CPU-internal system bus runs at 200 MHz, and the SDRAM is still limited to 100 MHz for the PXA255. So you'll still need the same cache-efficient tuning as for the older PXA250.

      -Klaus

    9. Re:Is it just me.... by Plix · · Score: 1

      It's an English *conversion*, so of course there's going to be a lot of markup. If you're so worried about price you could always buy the Zaurus 5600 for significantly less, or you could wait until Sharp releases an English version in the United States.

  18. simple pig latin by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    wget -o foo.txt http://osnippets.org/ && cat foo.txt | pig >> bar.txt && mv bar.txt foo.txt

    Replace osnippets.org with whatever domain you want to get, and be sure to have a pightml renderer.

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    1. Re:simple pig latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wget -O - | pig >output.txt

    2. Re:simple pig latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn that newfangled HTML.

      wget -O - <url> | pig >output.txt

  19. Looking Sharp by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 4, Funny
    TrollTech has done a fantastic job with the Qt embedded GUI lib. It's superfast.

    That said, I don't like these small widgets. Try typing

    c.t[j] <<= (m % 2 && i>1) ? sft[i-1] : sft[i]
    on it.

    It hurts.

    1. Re:Looking Sharp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      not as much as it hurts to read it ;-/

      Scuse my ignorance, but wtf is that, anyway?

    2. Re:Looking Sharp by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 1

      It's C Sharp of course (pun intended)

    3. Re:Looking Sharp by Fnord · · Score: 1

      Its a badly written line of C. Anyone who insists on one letter variables (and one letter structs with one letter members even!) should be shot.

    4. Re:Looking Sharp by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 1

      Man, I said it hurt to type on the damn thing. Variable names like bufferContainingVariousStuff is out of the question.

    5. Re:Looking Sharp by Michael+Spencer+Jr. · · Score: 1

      I've had a C700 for about three months now. (has it really been three months?)

      On a normal desktop keyboard, it took me 16 seconds to type the code you pasted. On the C700 keyboard (which is exactly the same form factor as the C750/C760, just different colors) it took me 41 seconds to type that with the unit held in my hands, and 38 seconds to type with it sitting on the desk.

      So yeah, you ain't kidding . . . it hurts. :)

      If it's all you have, though, it's better than nothing. (I'm pretty sure the original poster knows all this -- I'm just sharing my experiences.) I've created, compiled, tested, and turned in a C program for a class, completely on the C700. Took me about twice as long as it would've taken if I could've used a full-size computer . . . but I'm not allowed to use a C compiler on bank computers at work, and the time would've been spent reading slashdot anyway. :)

      Hint: there are no open or close curly braces printed on the C700 keyboard, but you can get those characters by holding down Fn and Shift and pressing the keys with angle brackets. Helps to use an editor like MinIDE ( http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=2 49 ) which can be set to type a close brace when you type an open brace automatically.

      (this bit is offtopic, but . . . . I tinkered with my Dynamism converted C700 and figured out what was changed, and then made a howto that describes how to implement most of those changes by hand. No downloads, no copyright violation. http://mspencer.net/stuff/c700conv.html )

      --Michael Spencer

    6. Re:Looking Sharp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy:

      c.t[j] 1) & 1]

      or, if you want it readable:

      c.t[j] 1) ? sft[i-(m&1)] : sft[i]

  20. I'm just curious by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there is some large untapped handheld market or do people own 2,3 and 4 handhelds? I bought one a few years ago and its not the kinda item that I think needs to be "upgraded" yet. All these gadets look really cool, but I can't justify buying a new one every year, or even every 2 years ( I can jsutify 2 years with a PC). I just always feel left in the dust and like by the time I can get a new one, I'll have missed out one something good. Or maybe just get in on something better.

    1. Re:I'm just curious by l810c · · Score: 1
      Is there is some large untapped handheld market or do people own 2,3 and 4 handhelds?

      This is the place for Geeks

      I just always feel left in the dust and like by the time I can get a new one, I'll have missed out one something good. Or maybe just get in on something better.

      Most all of us have been playing this same game for years with CPU's, Graphics Cards, Sound Boards, Mice etc., etc.

    2. Re:I'm just curious by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      Do what I do, sell your older one on ebay, handhelds don't depreciate as much as full blown computers.

  21. Oregon will take a Klingon unit by X-wes · · Score: 1
  22. I've seen an English Zaurus 7500 (same as J:C750) by rjamestaylor · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've seen an English market Zaurus 7500. Funnily enough it was at a meeting promoting the Z 5600, and one of the reps was on the sidelines using the 7500...no, he wasn't a marketing-type -- a marketing-type would never have made that mistake :) So, after the presentation of the (nice) 5600 I approached the rep and made him show me the 7500.

    My advice: restrain your impulsive nature and wait a few months (at most?) for the English market version. It will be a very different -- and lower cost -- beast. Well worth the wait, if you are interested in this flipin' mini unit.

    It is cool, that's for sure.

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  23. Wot No Babelfish by fastdecade · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Damnit! When I read the Zaurus had "English conversion", I thought we had entered the era of the babelfish.

    1. Re:Wot No Babelfish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      All your handhelds are belong to us

  24. maybe you should learn how to by bettiwettiwoo · · Score: 1
    Six hours later, finally satisfied a little

    Six hours and still not satisfied?! Are you sure you know what you're doing?
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    1. Re:maybe you should learn how to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Have you ever tried to fuck a dead baby...

    2. Re:maybe you should learn how to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING!!!

  25. More information by terzyva · · Score: 2, Interesting
    While the information in DavonZ's report is accurate, keep in mind that he was paid by Dynamism to do the English conversion, so this isn't an entirely unbiased review.

    If you don't need a full English conversion, you can buy the units a lot cheaper at conics.net. Then, you can change one line in a config file to set the default locale to English (which changes most of the text, but isn't nearly as complete as the dynamism conversion), or install Debian on it (see my web page at www.w-m-p.com/pocketworkstation/).

    I'm not being paid by Dynamism or Conics (or Sharp for that matter), but have bought from and can recommend both suppliers.

    The C750 is an excellent machine, it's a Linux workstation you can put in your shirt pocket. The landscape form factor along with the 640x480 screen can display 80x30 characters in a well-legible font, with a full keyboard that's easy to type on despite the small size. With 64 MB RAM and a 512 MB SD card for storage, along with a 400 MHz XScale CPU, its performance is equivalent to desktop PCs a couple of years ago.

    The C750 finally has a PXA255 with a 200 MHz memory clock, which is the main reason for the improved speed compared to the older C700, along with the doubled RAM.

    Note that the display is flippable 180 degrees, so you can also use the system with a portrait display and no keyboard if you prefer that.

    -Klaus

  26. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by rsborg · · Score: 3, Informative
    Thank you, Microsoft, for making my favorite browser Internet Explorer.

    Uh... I think you misspelled Mozilla :-)
    Did you notice that the lizard supports more bookmarklets than IE?

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  27. whoa there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is one sweet unit.

    Take your homosexual tendencies elsewhere, buddy.

  28. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you notice that the lizard supports more bookmarklets than IE?

    No, I'm sorry that I missed that. I was too busy surfing through all the web site that IE supports and Mozilla does not to wait for Mozilla to reload its own windowing environment for the nth time.

  29. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a list of those sites? Or are you too busy closing all the pop-ups to make one?

  30. Pocket PC 2002 by pXgray · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not to be sarcastic, and at the risk of being nailed to a cross, I wonder if anyone has tried to flash one of these guys with a Pocket PC 2002 ROM. I have used many devices with Pocket PC, and the software, as well as visuals are incredible. It's very responsive with the Xscale processor, as well as on the older ARM 206 mHz processors. I am likely to get one of these Zaurus devices, and probably will enjoy the Linux operating system on it, but still I think that maybe it would be interesting to screw around with Pocket PC on it.

    pxgray

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    1. Re:Pocket PC 2002 by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

      (Score:2, Funny)

      Hmm... Could have been a lot worse! :P

    2. Re:Pocket PC 2002 by pXgray · · Score: 1

      Hey, it picked up "Insightful" at least someone takes me seriously!!

      pxgray

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    3. Re:Pocket PC 2002 by kaatochacha · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forgive him Lord, for he knows not what he does...

  31. There going one better than Ogg Vorbis by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    You'll be able to play eight-track tapes on it.

  32. Cool by mindstrm · · Score: 1

    What I want to know is this:

    My criteria for a PDA is that it must be expandable, and not bulky.

    Does this come with any kind of wireless built in, or a non-bulky wireless addon?

    1. Re:Cool by kinnell · · Score: 1

      I believe you can buy wifi cf cards.

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    2. Re:Cool by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      All recent-model Zaures are either bulky or non-expandable. Mostly bulky.

      Sliding an 802.11b card into the CF slot of a Zaurus only adds a little to the overall size (if you choose the right card), but the Zaurus itself is already large. And if you want a longer range connection, you either need a different card with a bigger antenna, or you'll have to plug it into a cellphone.

      For sale in the US are the 5500 and 5600, approximately the same size. Each has is as wide as a regular PocketPC device (like the HP Ipaq for example), and has the same size screen. But to allow for a pull-out hardware keyboard, it's 3 centimeters taller. That's a small increase which can make a big difference fitting something into your pocket. (And of course, PocketPCs are bigger than Palm/Handspring/Sony PDAs with Palm OS)

      The current article covers even bigger systems that are only sold in Japan. I don't think you'd want one of those. However, in Japan there's also a Zaurus model (newer than the 5500, older than the other recent models) which has no hardware keyboard at all. It looks the same size as an Ipaq, and like an Ipaq, there is no CompactFlash slot for an ethernet or 802.11B card. There is a SecureDigital slot, and SecureDigital bluetooth adapters are on the market, but I haven't heard of linux drivers for them.

  33. What I'd like to know... by Howard+Beale · · Score: 1

    is if these things support either Citrix's or Tarantella's Java clients. Using that VGA screen with a CDPD card installed would be great for my remote service techs.

  34. Love my 5500 by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 1

    I've had my 5500 for a couple of months. I've upgraded to ROM 3.10.

    I love the bash shell, the free and easy downloads, the easy ROM upgrades.

    That said, it is:

    - hard to read the screen
    - hard to enter text

    I think what I'm getting from this experience is that the clamshell design is what you need for the usable ultra-portable device.

    Oh, and built-in wifi.

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  35. More information about ordering... by pXgray · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently have been looking at these units and am pretty positive I am going to buy one. That being said, I would much rather prefer to order from Dynamism rather than conics.net, because of their technical support and English OS. However, you can't argue with the conics price ($629, vs. $699 at Dynamism), so I emailed them and asked them to match. Here's the offers they gave:

    Package (1)
    Zaurus C750 (in Japanese) $629
    Shipping from our Tokyo office (3-5 days) $19
    (you will also have to pay import duties on the shipment)
    Â No Dynamism technical support as the unit you get will be in Japanese
    Â Japanese OS
    Â Warranty service, but you will have to pay for shipping to our Tokyo office â" BTW, if Conics goes out of business, it will be basically impossible to get your unit repaired as Sharp Japan will NOT accept shipments from outside of the US. Also, by installing an English OS invalidates the warranty (we cover that if purchased through us).

    Package (2)
    Zaurus C750 (with our English OS) $677
    Shipping $17
    Â Full Dynamism tech support for the lifetime of the unit
    Â Fed-ex rescue service (we pay all shipping while the unit is under warranty)
    Â English interface

    They said that they would have to match the offer, not only the price, but they still were very receptive to dropping it a couple bucks, which is really cool of them to do.

    pxgray

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  36. woops by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    I tried it with a lowercase 'o' and thought the feature was unimplemented.

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  37. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a waste of space.

  38. Zaurus's Screen by Succendo · · Score: 1

    I've been lusting over these things for a long time, and what keeps me interested is the 640x480 screen. I've read some reviews on the older models, and just about everyone said the screen was the best selling point

  39. bring in the "B" series by 73939133 · · Score: 1

    In terms of hardware, I'd much rather see the "B" series coming to the US: they are actually PDA-sized machines.

    In terms of software, I think these machines have their own set of problems. As a PDA, I think the Zaurus lags behind Palm and even PPC. And the lack of X11 support by the default window system means that most Linux GUI applications require a complete rewrite of their UI, rather than just a simple port.

    I have a Zaurus 5500, but I'm probably going to be replacing it with a Yopy.

    1. Re:bring in the "B" series by mskeggs · · Score: 1

      It is possible to install X11 on all current Zauruses (including your SL-5500).
      The killer feature for me is the integral keyboard, which was not available on competitors kit until recently.
      Anyway, what X11 app do you want on the Zaurus?

    2. Re:bring in the "B" series by 73939133 · · Score: 1

      Anyway, what X11 app do you want on the Zaurus?

      A bunch of in-house X11 apps is the most important use.

      Also, Tcl/Tk/expectk, xscribble, Gtk#, lablgtk, Squeak, xloadimage, and others. You know, all the stuff that runs on my desktop and for which a 200MHz 64M machine is plenty fast.

      It is possible to install X11 on all current Zauruses (including your SL-5500).

      Yes, but it doesn't integrate with the existing desktop. The X11-based version of OpenZaurus may help, but that involves a ROM upgrade and you lose SD card access.

      For their own good, I hope Sharp will switch to an X11-based handheld; all the existing Qt applications should continue to run.

  40. Xfree on the c700 by mallum · · Score: 1

    I've made ipkg's for X on the c700 ( they'll probably work on the c75xx too ). Grab em here;

    http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs

    There a packaged in OZ's buildroot. Touchscreen and keyboard works fine.

    Some crappy screenshots here ( about half way down the page );

    http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/screenshot s. html

  41. Just bought one in Tokyo by FromWithin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm in Japan. Just bought one for 60000 yen (about 300 quid, probably about 450 dollars).

    If you edit /home/zaurus/Settings/locale.conf so that it says "en" instead of "jp", the whole thing, apart from HancomWord and HancomSheet, switches over to English. Dynamism are putting a serious premium on it. I'd avoid them and order direct from Japan.

    By the way, the thing as absolutely fantastic. The screen is unbelievable!

  42. Re:Thank the developers of your favourite browser. by jesser · · Score: 1

    Did you notice that the lizard supports more bookmarklets than IE?

    Yes, but keep in mind that the author of most of those bookmarklets (me) is a Mozilla contributor.

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