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Microsoft Patents Interactive Entertainment

An anonymous reader writes "Embedded-Watch is carrying a story regarding the award of patent number 6,571,390 to Microsoft. The patent would seem to cover pretty much any implementation of a video-on-demand system that you (or at least I) can think of. Read for yourself to decide whether this patent either is not original work or is blatantly obvious to the most casual observer. The patent could certainly be invalidated by the courts on either point, but that'd take a fight in court that won't be cheap."

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  1. Its more than one would think by Badgerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't just going to affect the big boys. There are companies that make various kinds of useful video-delivery, conferencing, and broadcast software that do the exact same things. Not a big market, but a market nonetheless.

    This patent covers what they're doing too. I've seen at least two hardware/software suites designed to create similar functionality on a smaller scale.

    If Microsoft gets aggressive, I wonder who they'll go after first . .

    As to the patent, I'd say I'm surprised . . . but I'm not surprised.

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  2. Adult Content Industry? by Bame+Flait · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The adult entertainment industry has been doing this for years. Surely all manner of pr0n video-on-demand services must fall under this (rather large) umbrella. It seems to me that pr0n led the way in this department, and that Larry Flynt should make Bill Gates star in one of his films if he wants to keep this patent.

    On a related note, I wonder what Bill's name would be if he appeared in one of Flynt's works?

  3. Why hasn't the EFF stepped up to the plate here? by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why is this kind of thing still actively going on? The EFF should be patenting every kind of DRM and such similiar thing that they can think of. Beyond that, we should also be doing what we can. We need to deny these patents for these really bad business practices and DRM's to the companies that will abuse them.


    Simple really, think of a way that MS or another company can screw you. Than all you need to do is get this patented. Once patented the EFF should have a fund to reimburse people for the cost of the patent. At which point the patent should be placed into an EFF trust dedicated to making sure that particular bad idea can't be used. Come on people, let's use their system against them instead of getting it used against us again. For not that much money we could head off a lot of DRM and other such madness before it does it's damage.

  4. File for an invalid patent and pay? by kefoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cases like this make me wish people who file for obviously invalid patents were held responsible for the costs of litigation to throw their patent out (watch out for the borderline cases that honestly believed their application was valid, though). Of course, we wouldn't have this problem if the patent office didn't grant them in the first place.

  5. Not a problem by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this patent really does cover any and all media on demand stuff, it'll get shot down quick. Not because our legal system is somehow honest, but because there are powerful interests that won't want to pay Microsoft licensing fees. i.e. the momment MS tries to demand cash from AOL/Time Warner this'll be slapped down.

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  6. This is a Very limited patent by asmithmd1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To see what is patented you have to look at the claims. The fewer clauses in a claim the more broad the patent. If you come up with a competing invention that does not have any one of the clauses, your invention does not infringe. It seems the key thing they patenting is this clause

    the user interface enabling a viewer to adjust the selected rate according to personal preference; and
    So you can have everything listed in their claim and as long as the user can't adjust the rate of scrolling, you don't infringe. That seems like a pretty limited (ang obvious) patent
  7. Submitted story is incorrect by gwernol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just read the patent and although I am not a patent lawyer, I have written patent applications and hold two so I know something about reading them.

    This patent does not cover video on demand systems. Read the claims of the patent, which describe the novel features covered. These boil down to:

    A user interface widget that allows you to see a list of available items, where the UI widget is scrollable and the user can control the scroll rate via a preference and the widget shows videos available on a back-end VOD system.

    This is so far from a "patent [that] would seem to cover pretty much any implementation of a video-on-demand system" that its laughable. It covers a very specific feature that is used in a proscribed and specific way. Most VOD system's probably don't have this UI and even if they did it would be easy to work around it.

    The short story: don't over-react, this is not a patent on VODs.

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  8. OK, this is getting rediculous... by Doobian+Coedifier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Posters: READ THE GODDAMN ARTICLE! You look like an idiot is you reply based on just the summary. It's pretty ovious a good number of posters haven't read it.

    Editors: Stop posting stories with misleading summaries! It confuses the Slashdot community, who likes to post their knee-jerk reactions.

    I'm gonna lose my karma for this, so be it. Slashdot sucks more and more every day, with duplicates, misleading summaries, and Ask Slashdots that could be solved by Googling, eopinions.com (Color laser printer), or reading your manual ("broken" V-chip is actually CC text mode). Check out "Not Slashdot", kuro5hin.org

  9. I agree, but... by siskbc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm guessing you're new around here. Slashbots don't bother to read articles; they just see the words "Microsoft" and "patent" on the same page and start frothing at the keyboard.

    I'm sorry, this discussion board is specifically for people who have never read a patent filing. ;)

    I've said it a hundred times on here, you can't patent an idea, only the specific implementation of an idea.

    You're right, in that that's the general idea of the patent system - but specific incidents have proven this to be no longer necessarily the case. The most oft-cited and egregious example is the one-click patent. If ever there was a patent on an idea, it's that one. If I were Ford, I'd go patent an engine with more than 40 MPG, because it's the same thing: efficiency of use. And that isn't an implementation.

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  10. Re:registrering common words by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Windows was a common word used to describe a graphical user interface that had...well..windows. X-Windows, Mac, MSFT Windows all utilize windows. It's a generic term. On the other hand, Sun (I'm assuming you are refering to the same people that made Java) did not use a generic name in regards to the company. Unix didn't already run a version of Sunlight, Daylight, or Firey Star. There was nothing already to confuse it to. Two organizations can have very similar trademark as long as their respective uses do not overlap and it would be obvious to anyone (Patent/TM office excluded) that they are different products. Examples being Lexus (car) & Lexis (Law database), Apple (Computers) and Apple (Records) and Apple (Employment).