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Verizon to Reveal Customers in DMCA Subpoena Case

JulisJ writes "NYTimes reports that Verizon will turn over the names of online subscribers accused of swapping music. This could be a big blow to the file-swapping community, even if you're swapping legit." There's also a story on News.com. See our previous story for background.

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  1. RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The RIAA are also covering this. (very smugly I bet)

  2. Can you blame them? by krisp · · Score: 4, Informative

    If they don't, it's their asses on the lines for obstruction of justice.

    1. Re:Can you blame them? by Speare · · Score: 2, Informative
      Doesn't "obstruction of justice" only apply when its a criminal case?

      This is the DMCA we're talking about. Turning civil complaints by private sector into criminal accusations by government fiat.

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  3. Didja get the memo, Peter? Re:I'm kinda curious by bourne · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do these people who are being identified know who they are?

    Let's me do some extensive research for you...

    (reads article)

    Yes, they do:

    "Ms. Deutsch said Verizon had already informed the two people whose information is the subject of its lawsuits against the recording industry group. The group has filed two additional subpoenas, and those subscribers have also been informed that their names are to be divulged."

  4. Re:I wonder... by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Leave them for who?

    It doesnt matter who you go to, the courts have ruled that the MPAA/RIAA (or anyone with a fax machine, for that matter) can subpeona your information.

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  5. Senator writing bill to oppose this sort of thing by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I submitted this story earlier today, but it didn't make it. Basically, Sen. Sam Brownback from Kansas is announcing the "Consumer,Schools, and Libraries Digital Rights Management Awareness Act," which will, among other things, require that a copyright holder win a lawsuit in order to obtain the name of an alleged peer-to-peer pirate.

    In the meantime, I say turn about's fair play: let's all of us accuse the RIAA of illegally distributing our copyrighted material and invade their privacy without bothering with the courts. Let's rat out every music executive out there who's downloading kiddie porn or sending naughty emails to their mistresses. Hey, if they can do it to us, why can't we do it to them?

    my 2 cents...

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  6. Re:Will you continue filesharing? by fred_sanford · · Score: 2, Informative

    i'd tend to agree with #1
    even though i use Kazaa Lite i'll be sure to block anyone from getting my file list for this explicit reason

  7. Re:I wonder... by tempest303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    They won't be missed!

    File steali... *ahem*, sorry, forgot my /. Euphamism-o-matic. I mean file "sharing" fanatics get no love from ISPs. The hardcore p2p users are the ones that suck up the most bandwidth of anyone - I've seen it with my own eyes, having worked for one of the largest cable ISPs in the country. That kind of bandwidth hogging is the reason for the proposed monthly bandwidth caps. Those users are a losing proposition for the ISP, and they won't be missed when they leave!

  8. Re:Mirror by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmm, it was modded +5 funny for a good reason

    maybe you could check it out?

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  9. Effect vs. Affect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    effect: Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result. definition

    affect: To have an influence on or effect a change in definition

    you wanted affect.

  10. Re:Copyrighting My Identity? by ad0gg · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can't copyright fact. Only "Art" can be copyrighted. Unless your wallmart or some other big company then you can copyright fact like prices.

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  11. Re:What is Hillary Rosen's home address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Hilary Rosen resigned. you ought to at least target someone who's still employed by the RIAA.

  12. Re:My boss sent me this via email today ... by ckokotay · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stop calling it 'stealing', it is copyright infringement. Why the hell do you people have such a hard time understanding that concept?

    To 'steal', you take someones tangible good/property. Now you have it, they do not - you have deprived them of their property. Not so with so-called IP. You copy it, and they still have their own copy. Now if you were take a CD, say from a store - you have 'stolen' something tangible - but you have not committed copyright infringement under the law. Curiously, the penalty for swiping a CD is leagues lower than trading a song on the internet.

    People sound so stupid and uneducated when they make posts such as yours. Get your facts and definitions straight before you blurt it out.

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  13. Re:Will you continue filesharing? by nutznboltz · · Score: 3, Informative
    3) Everyone starts using freenet!
    4) Everyone starts using GNUnet! click me
  14. Re:Will you continue filesharing? by FrEaK7782 · · Score: 2, Informative
    3) Everyone starts using freenet!
    Except freenet doesn't work. It's not searchable and even when you know a key, you can practically never get the document.

    It was a good idea, but it won't be successful until almost everyone on the net has high bandwidth connections.
  15. Re:What is Hillary Rosen's home address? by vsprintf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hilary Rosen resigned. you ought to at least target someone who's still employed by the RIAA.

    She announced she will resign at the end of 2003. She is still employed by the RIAA.

  16. Only if the threat from RIAA is not eliminated by leoaugust · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few high profile cases is all the RIAA needs, and one of these days they will get it. That will end my sharing.

    The only way to stop this, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE MUSIC BUSINESS MODEL MUST CHANGE, and IF YOU BELIEVE THAT INNOVATION IS BEING SNUFFED, is to take drastic action now.

    If the RIAA is citing 5% percent dip in sales, make it 50%. If you buy 10 CD's a year, buy only 5. If you buy 20 CD's a year buy only 10. Better still, if you can copy a friend's CD do so.

    If you take steps now, which I am (I have gone even further and cut my CD buying 85 % to buying only 15 % of what I used to buy) then everyday will have an effect on the RIAA. A year has only 365 days, and if retail stores can move from black to red just because number of shopping days decreases by 1 or 2 - just imagine what will happen if number of shopping days falls by 200. The industry big boys, the fat, and all these extra vultures like Rosen and Sherman will be wiped out.

    Can it be done. I belive it will be done. But, I just hope it doesn't take a few high profile cases of RIAA MPAA screwing people, before the non-violent Gandhi method of boycott will gain speed. If it doesn't, soon, I won't be sharing files - though neither will I buy and CD's.

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  17. Re:Mirror by PiratePTG · · Score: 2, Informative
    >http://digitalsushi.com/home/mikec/mirror.gif

    Dude... not only is that NOT a mirror of the article, but your little grafitti about Verizon is uncalled for. If anything, we should be applauding the way they are taking it in the chops for trying to PROTECT online privacy... I'm sure that someone on /. works for Verizon. What's to keep them from now just thinking, "Why the fuck are we busting our asses for these ungrateful clods?"

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